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To: Hazcat
I guess it's to difficult for him to fathom that the way the founders had for protecting militias was to protect the ablility of the individual to keep and bear arms.

I would also challenge the author to cite any founding era idea of "collective" rights. Individuals have RIGHTS. Governments have been given JUST POWERS by individuals.:

WE hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness - That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in such Form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happines

19 posted on 12/17/2007 12:54:32 PM PST by ALPAPilot
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To: ALPAPilot
"to cite any founding era idea of "collective" rights."

You need to define "collective". If you mean an individual right that is only exercised collectively, then there is the right to vote, the right to assemble, and the right to keep and bear arms as a member of a well regulated state Militia.

29 posted on 12/17/2007 2:51:29 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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