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To: Othniel
Othniel,

85% of those children raised in strong Christian homes abandon their faith within 2 years of leaving government school, however 90 to 95% of homeschoolers remain faithful. It is evident that the government school are amazing effective in proselytizing their secular humanist religion to children with Christian parents.

In the kindest and most respectful manner, I ask you to please ask yourself,”How much influence can a Christian teacher have on children in government schools who are not from Christian homes?” In my opinion, probably little to none.

In the kindest and most respectful manner, I suggest to you that the efforts of Christian teachers would be put to better use by doing the following:

1)Consider your own children and the children of the parents in your congregation as your most important and urgent mission field.

2) Get your kids and the kids of your congregation out of the government schools.

3) Organize, and be teachers in, Christian schools in your own congregations.

4) Homeschool your own children.

5) With today’s technology it is possible to have many “one room school houses” in Christian homes. Christian teachers could be a tremendous resource in supporting these endeavors among the members of their Christian congregation.

6) Once your congregation has a viable and healthy education structure for its own children take in as many other children as possible ( that would not overwhelm the Christian culture of the school).

7) Work to organize private Christian scholarship foundations so that every child in the U.S. would have access to a private Christian education. We are wealthy nation. We could do this if Christians had the will.

46 posted on 12/18/2007 5:48:48 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: wintertime
Thank you for your kind reply. I would like to say, in defense of my school and others like it, that there are lights out there. My own school is K-8, with two or three classes per grade level. Many of the teachers are Christians, and we get together weekly to pray and talk about issues. It's a small town situation, and everybody either knows each other or are related in some fashion. Our Christmas program was just that: A Christmas program, not some dumba$$, watered down "Sparkle Season" program, as is seen in lesser schools. Our discipline program is solid, so solid that the veep (a Christian himself) expelled no less than 10 kids last year for assorted violations. We can say "Merry Christmas" if we want, and I showed "The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe," complete with a study guide supplied by the other teacher (a sister in the Lord) that asked a LOT of pointed questions about Aslan.

Maybe for some places it is too far gone. San Francisco, New Yahk, Los Angeles. If Mrs. Othniel and I lived there, then we would homeschool, no question. But there are lights out there, and I believe my site is one of them.

As for the 85%, I know that's probably tied in to going to a secular university....alone....away from parents or any other means of support. But with parents who are aware of the risks, a shorter leash is a better idea. A lot of parents don't discuss what happens in class when kids are in college. Too bad. How many parents just toss their kids out the door when they finish high school, instead of keeping them around, examining what they spend their money on, spending the time to do research about the teachers and the classes? When I left for university, I knew nobody, had no church, none of that. But I found friends, got plugged in to a church, and didn't fall away. But that was years ago.

Not everyone is made to homeschool. Even though my kids go to a government school, Mrs. Othniel and I are very careful to ask for, and get, literature lists, copies of science curriucula, and the like. We push for what we want, and it tells the school that we are aware of what is out there. We have never been dissatisfied with any of our kids' teachers. The few bumps the state books have put in our road have been dealt with, by either me or Mrs. O. (who has a masters in English Lit, for which she had to slog through, and reject, a lot of opinions and interepretations of Shakespeare and the like). We have openly discussed, as much as is age appropriate, homosexuality. The kids know what it is, know it's out there, and know that it is wrong is God's eyes. They know that our Lord Jesus loves gays, but won't tolerate the sin ("Would God let an unrepentant axe murderer into heaven?"). We have good talks about it.

Again, thank you for your reply. Let me state again that I reject this SB 777, and will pray against it, completely disobey it, and violently defend my students against it and any of its swishy proponents. God Bless You, and Merry Christmas!

70 posted on 12/18/2007 7:53:22 PM PST by Othniel (Mohammad: False Prophet and Smeghead Deluxe....)
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To: wintertime

“85% of those children raised in strong Christian homes abandon their faith within 2 years of leaving government school, however 90 to 95% of homeschoolers remain faithful. It is evident that the government school are amazing effective in proselytizing their secular humanist religion to children with Christian parents.”

I am currently engaged in a tough debate with my wife over public schooling (her position) and private (church) schooling, and our daughter is 2.5 years old.

I send her information several times a week pointing out the failures and evil that exist in many public schools, and would really like to share this information with her. Do you have a link to the study? That’s definite bookmark material. I checked the Exodus site you provided, but didn’t see it there.


89 posted on 12/19/2007 6:50:14 AM PST by Deut28 (Cursed be he who perverts the justice)
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To: wintertime

Wintertime:

The strategy is excellent. I approach it from a slightly different perspective in that I think it’s ultimately the parents, not the church, who are responsible for educating children.

A large part of the problem we see with government schools is that parents are too quick to want to turn the work of raising their children over to surrogates. There is a real danger in my view of setting up a church based alternative that allows parents to eagerly pass their responsibility on to a third party. Obviously I would prefer that to the status quo, but over time I expect you’re going to find the same problems cropping up as we have in the government schools.

You simply can’t get around the basic responsibility that parents have to raise and educate their own children. Churches can facilitate that, but ultimately the responsibility and rewards accrue to the parents.


116 posted on 12/20/2007 5:12:13 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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