Posted on 12/19/2007 10:12:53 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
The energy bill to be signed by the president today is arguably the worst piece of energy legislation ever enacted into law. It will substantially increase the price of automobiles, increase highway fatalities, increase fuel prices, worsen air pollution, and force consumers to buy products (like super-efficient light bulbs) that they manifestly -- and for very good reason -- do not want to buy. It will transfer huge amounts of wealth from the consumer to the farm lobby in the course of promoting a dubious product -- ethanol -- that will make energy supplies less reliable and greenhouse gas emission higher than necessary.
I'm one of those people. Ever try to fit a family of 6 into one of your small cars?
What next? We mandate a maximum family size so everyone can fit in to a sub compact. How do plan on fixing that? Are Forced abortions and sterilization in your plan as well? Or do you expect me to take two cars when I take my family anywhere? All so we can have an "equal" chance of being killed on the road?
God help us. When "Americans" actually think the way you do, this country truly is lost.
Actually, China is the beneficiary, as that’s where CFLs originate. However, the American companies might be over there using the cheap labor and paying the taxes to Guess Who.
Sorry, Tom, I have to agree with Jotmo on this one.
I can easily see that I’ll be purchasing “black market” incandescent gro-bulbs ( houseplants ) for my living room garden {{ Dad’s Jungle }}
which gives me pleasure , and gives our indoor air a little boost
This is a rhetorical question. Rhetoric is one of the three ways to convince when reason has failed.
I have never seen LED technology in a light bulb with a base that can screw into either a normal lamp or chandelier.
I just think that in time, the market will respond to the demand and provide them at a reasonable cost.
Jotmo
You have a point. I do understand that with large families you need a larger vehicle. But will you please stop with the “Are Forced abortions and sterilization in your plan as well?” You sound silly when you write like that.
Besides, you treat me as if I was some big government leftie. Does “Tom the Redhunter” sound leftist to you?
All I’m trying to do is find a way to stop sending our money to the Wahhabists of Saudi Arabia and the other gulf states. I’m trying keep Iran and Hugo Chavez from making so much $ from oil.
At least “businessprofessor” has an idea, he says that the private sector can solve the problem. I’ve got some questions for him about this, but at least he’s trying.
So Jotmo, what’s your idea for getting us off of foreign oil so that we aren’t sending so much money to those who are trying to destroy us?
Don’t you dare condescend to me by claiming I’m having fun. I’m dead serious, and I will not shut up.
ack. My last comment to you appeared as one giant paragraph, and I’ve no idea why. How annoying.
My apologies because makes it more difficult to read.
Tolerance;
Please. Let’s take a breath here. I am not trying to be consdescending to you and apologize that it came across that way. Think about this please. I want to get rid of the Saudi funded schools too, and have written so on my blog. But I want to do it in a legal way. It is possible to read what you wrote as advocating the extrajudicial destruction of private property, ie vigilante violence. This is wrong and you know it. Please, and I ask you as a fellow FReeper, qualify your remarks.
thank you,
Tom
Oh, and are you trying to say I'm advocating an American holocaust, by any chance? Far from it; I merely want to see the radicals go back to the Middle East. I don't want to murder them.
The Saudi religion is Wahabbism, one of the strictest forms of Islam. It has been deemed by some to be hateful. What do you want to do about the Saudi-funded Wahabbi schools and mosques in the U.S.? I suppose we could leave them up after expelling their congregations; they would serve as monuments to American ignorance.
Even a free society has the right to defend itself from bigoted, intolerant movements like Wahabbism, National Socialism, White Power, the New Black Panthers, and so on.
Sorry I got mad.
Not a chance, Tom. I would use the legal process all the way against a typical Saudi-funded institution by taking it though eminent domain and replacing it with a school, park, public parking garage, or whatever would qualify under the original interpretation of the 5th Amendment (not the Kelo interpretation). Like I said before, we could always simply leave the building up as a monument to American ignorance and use it as a museum or daycare or some such.
Again, I apologize for getting mad.
Oh, and before I forget yet again, Merry Christmas. See you at Walter Reed sometime.
Ridding us from dependence on foreign oil is a worthy goal, but no matter what your cause, any response short of "Americans should be free to drive what they want, and it's none of the governments business." is deserving of ridicule and scorn.
To answer you question, nuclear power plants and domestic oil production for a significant chunk of the problem. But that alone won't do it. The real answer is to make our enemy's so frightened of us, that they would not dare cross us in any way. It can be done. we just need the will and fortitude to do what is necessary.
Their fundamental axiom is that humans are bad. With that in hand they seek things which can be blamed on humans which can be used as an excuse to consolidate power.
The scientific method is only used enough to lend the appearance of credibility to the foregone conclusion that human activity is evil.
I’m not so sure that the details of this legislation are the right way to go, but I absolutely disagee with the assertion that we don’t need to do anything to reduce our petroleum consumption”
People don’t understand how free market capitalism works so well and that ANY government interference has only negative consequences. For example because the liberal media says that “WE” need to reduce our oil consumption now the government has mandated ridiculously high mileage standards for car makers.
Just a few unintended , unforseen ,consequences than an average individual like me sees is that mucle cars and full-size pickups will be banned because they can never get to 35 mpg in that short of a time. Maybe others haven’t noticed but i have that full-size pickups do a lot of the hauling and transporting of goods, materials and equipment for businesses. the AC repair man that fixed my AC works out of an F250 ford pick up. The locksmith that fixed my mailbox out of a van and so on. banning these trucks will destroy our economy. but government planner idiots didn’t see this because government planning never works as just this example shows.
People think it’s just easy to manufacture something like a cell phone or a laptop computer? You don’t know how many millions of people had a hand in designing, planning, managing, transporting , manufacturing, marketing that laptop . But all this works in businesses perfectly without any government planning. you stick a government plan into this complex process that no one individual can never have the knowledge to implement it and you will serious problems.
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