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Proof Hucakbee is lying about the moving cross
myself | Dec 20, 2007 | Travis McGee

Posted on 12/20/2007 8:59:16 AM PST by Travis McGee

"THE TODAY SHOW"

MEREDITH VIEIRA: Let's talk about this Christmas ad, because it comes after you have taken some hits from the critics, first for calling yourself a Christian leader, then for questioning whether Mormons believe Christ and the devil were brothers, something you did apologize for.

Now in this ad you are say people should be celebrating the birth of Christ while the shape of a cross appears to take shape behind you. And that has led some to say that this is another overt religious appeal to voters. What do you say about this ad and about those criticisms?

MIKE HUCKABEE: That floating cross is a bookshelf, Meredith. We were all amused -- the production crew I think probably more than anyone, who put the spot together.

VIEIRA: So you didn't see that image when you put the spot together, that it might be confused?

HUCKABEE: Absolutely not.


These are movie camera "tracking dollies."

There are two reasons to use tracking dollies when directing a film. The most basic use is when following a moving subject and keeping them in the same plane. The classic use is to follow a walking actor in profile.

The other use of the tracking dolly is to move the background in a controlled way, while keeping the foreground subject in one place by simultaneiously tracking and panning the camera.

That is how the Huckabee team contrived and executed the shot, in order to move the glowing white (spotlighted) shelf/cross from the left side of the shot to behind Huckabee's head, in exactly the 30 seconds of the ad.

The use of the tracking dolly is the smoking gun, the proof that the moving cross effect was deliberate, and that Huckabee is lying about it being an unnoticed coincidence.

They didn't just come out and "find" that a tracking dolly had magically appeared on the set, and decide, "Aw shucks, why don't we stick the camera on this here funny contraption, and slide it from left to right while aiming at Mike's head, just for the heck of it."

Every aspect of this political advertisement was deliberate, down to the placement of the three ornaments on the glowing white spotlighted empty shelf.

The proof that the moving cross effect was deliberate, is the use of the tracking dolly to move the cross in the background in a perfectly controlled way.


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KEYWORDS: ads; cross; huckabee
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To: Travis McGee
"Every aspect of this political advertisement was deliberate..."

It's a POLITICAL ADVERTISEMENT for crying out loud - of course it's deliberate.
Huck is a polititian, just a man like everyone else - trying to get an edge where he can - which only means he may not be as dumb as some make hinm out to be......

41 posted on 12/20/2007 9:12:55 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Travis McGee

The lighting of the object was also purposeful.
The cross was meant to be there. And there should not be a problem with it. Its Christmas.
My problem with it ...is that Huck is denying that it is what it is. As for being ashamed....why the denial? Stand up proudly and say yes its a cross...my faith and the Lords birth is what this season is about. To poohpooh it and make a joke about Paul is dead...thats where the shame and the sham begins and ends.


42 posted on 12/20/2007 9:12:56 AM PST by donnab (saving liberal brains...one moron at a time.)
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To: Piranha
I took Huck's challenge and played the commercial backwards. Here's what I hear:

Let the Mexicans in. Let them all in.

43 posted on 12/20/2007 9:13:17 AM PST by DManA
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To: Travis McGee

I agree that Huck lied, but is there a source proving that this was what was done? It makes sense to me. My eyesight isn’t that great, but I don’t even see a bookshelf. At first, I thought it was an enhanced convenient “sparkle” from a light on the Christmas tree. Then I thought it was a window pane that was used disingenuously, but it can’t be because the Christmas tree appears to be in front of the cross.

It really wouldn’t matter to me at all because special effects are used all the time, but when Huck said it wasn’t a cross, he blew it. He would have been much wiser to say something like, “Cool how it showed up, huh?” He didn’t. Instead, he chose to lie.


44 posted on 12/20/2007 9:13:53 AM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: DManA

LOL


45 posted on 12/20/2007 9:13:59 AM PST by cripplecreek (Only one consistent conservative in this race and his name is Hunter.)
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To: Travis McGee
Huckster is going down. He is having a few days of fame, and then the inevitable flame down. Not President material.
46 posted on 12/20/2007 9:14:38 AM PST by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: counterpunch
The camera movement was designed simply to bring more attention to it, just to make sure them dumb rubes in Iowa didn’t miss it.

And I have zero problem with that.

I have a big problem with former preacher's who would LIE even about the cross.

If a former preacher will lie about the cross, what won't he lie about?

47 posted on 12/20/2007 9:14:39 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: svcw

If he is so proud, why is he obviously lying. The man is a sleeze.


48 posted on 12/20/2007 9:15:27 AM PST by cajungirl
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To: DManA
What does it matter that the Huckster says he is a good Christian and pro-life when Huckabee will turn the U.S,. into a socialist state where we will all be starving?

Huckabee Begs For New Taxes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pLOC4krZI4

Huckabee Caught Lying About His Tax Hikes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYrGlfkvRV0&feature=related

Huckabee is a pro-illegal, pro-Amnesty, tax raising, big government loving, socialist/liberal, violent criminal pardoning, terrorist appeasing, false prophet. In other words Huckabee is really a Democrat.

Under no circumstances will I ever vote for this liberal/communist con man.

The Huckster Huckabee or Hillary will let in hundreds of millions of 3rd world socialist illegals.

The Huckster or Hillary will surrender to Iran and let Iran build a nuclear arsenal.

The Huckster or Hillary will raise taxes and increase the size of government putting the U.S. on the road to socialism which will destroy our way of life, destroy our economy, destroy our civilization.

If you think I'm exaggerating look at Huckabee's record and into the dangers of socialism.

But hey , the idiot Huckster lies and says he is pro-life so that makes all of this ok huh?

Mike Huckabee disses Americans, Mexicans, promotes illegal immigration

http://lonewacko.com/blog/archives/005609.html

Christians Need To Beware Of Mike Huckabee

http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/c2007/cbarchive_20071102.html

While Gov. of Arkansas, Huckabee was AGAINST proving citizenship in order to register to vote. He called those who were in favor of this “racists”..

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20050218/news_lz1e18perkins.html

Huckabee fought hard to kill an Arkansas bill which would have cut off social services for illegal aliens. Huckabee called the bill, “anti-Christian” and “un-American”...

http://www.arkansasnews.com/archive/2005/01/28/News/316347.html

Huckabee supported in-state tuition for illegal aliens...

http://www.arkansasnews.com/archive/2005/03/11/News/318458.html

Huckabee’s opposition to the illegal aliens bill:

http://www.diggersrealm.com/mt/archives/000718.html

Chuck the Huck and his striped shirts:


49 posted on 12/20/2007 9:15:47 AM PST by rurgan (socialism doesn't work. Government is the problem not the solution to our problems.)
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To: hsalaw
Whether he intended it or not, there’s nothing wrong with a cross in a Merry Christmas message.

I agree 100%.

But I think it's a big problem when a guy who wears his religion on his sleeve will intentionally use the cross, and then LIE about it.

If a former preacher will lie about the cross, what won't he lie about?

50 posted on 12/20/2007 9:16:13 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Travis McGee

Who cares if it’s a cross or if it’s a bookshelf????

It’s a CHRISTMAS video. There could be a crucifix hanging on the wall in the background, and it would be completely in context.

For crying out loud.

I’m glad there are no real issues to debate. /sarc/


51 posted on 12/20/2007 9:16:37 AM PST by Jedidah
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To: Travis McGee

Who cares? Its certainly not as gross a plant as Hillerys 82 year old Sunday school teacher just happening to show up at a fundraiser with a picture of Hillerys confirmation. Of course that wasn’t planned at all. I’ll be so glad when this circus/farce of an election is over.


52 posted on 12/20/2007 9:16:59 AM PST by Leg Olam (“If I had to live my life over again, I'd be a plumber.” ~ Albert Einstein)
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To: Psalm 73
It's a POLITICAL ADVERTISEMENT for crying out loud - of course it's deliberate. Huck is a polititian, just a man like everyone else - trying to get an edge where he can - which only means he may not be as dumb as some make hinm out to be......

So, do you believe him whan he says it was just an accident, and he hadn't noticed the cross before hand?

If you don't believe him, does it bother you at all that a former preacher would lie about using the cross for personal gain?

53 posted on 12/20/2007 9:17:39 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: rurgan
Vertical strips are so slimming.

Remember the old SNL skit "The Wide Bottoms"?

54 posted on 12/20/2007 9:18:01 AM PST by DManA
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To: Travis McGee
If a former preacher will lie about the cross, what won't he lie about?
Next thing we know, we may even discover he lied about having a theology degree...
 
55 posted on 12/20/2007 9:18:05 AM PST by counterpunch (Get Up And Go Fred Go Already!)
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To: donnab
The lighting of the object was also purposeful. The cross was meant to be there. And there should not be a problem with it. Its Christmas. My problem with it ...is that Huck is denying that it is what it is. As for being ashamed....why the denial? Stand up proudly and say yes its a cross...my faith and the Lords birth is what this season is about. To poohpooh it and make a joke about Paul is dead...thats where the shame and the sham begins and ends.

Perfectly summed up.

56 posted on 12/20/2007 9:18:24 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Travis McGee

WHO CARES if there was a cross? Geez. Only idiots and liberals and muslims whine about that.


57 posted on 12/20/2007 9:19:05 AM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: longtermmemmory

This speculation about motive is really silly and far-fetched. For heaven’s sake, the guy is a well known former Baptist preacher. Why would he need to conjure up a cross in an ad?

I don’t buy this “lying” stuff. It’s based on pure surmise about camera techniques and practices. Pretty pathetic to call someone a liar on such a flimsy basis.

And I’m NOT a Huckabee supporter.


58 posted on 12/20/2007 9:19:05 AM PST by Elpasser
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To: armourup

Libs love him {Huckabee} because they’ll be able to beat him like a rented mule in the general.


59 posted on 12/20/2007 9:19:17 AM PST by Cedric
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To: Travis McGee

You’re right, and I added that in a separate post. New computer; finger twitch; and I posted before I was ready.


60 posted on 12/20/2007 9:19:23 AM PST by hsalaw
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