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Bob, you should have gone to work for the Federal government. Don't pay Social Security, have a fat salary and fat pension and retire at 50 to live on 5 acres near Winslow, Arizona. That would have worked.
1 posted on 12/20/2007 10:49:58 AM PST by shortstop
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Whatever you do people, make sure you vote for a “front runner” who “can win” and is “electable”. Such a person will make sure Social Security, will continue as before, along with deficit spending, and open borders.

Make sure you are extremely embarrassed if you vote for a candidate who isn’t the eventual winner. Fear the judgment of men.

See my tagline for the definition of “front runner” ...


2 posted on 12/20/2007 10:55:22 AM PST by ROTB (Front Runner=rich guy who doesn't hate evil and strives to offend no one, & WILL SELL YOU OUT.)
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I tried to opt out of socialist security when I started work 38 years ago. Of course I failed. A few years ago I developed a “present worth” spreadsheet of the opportunity lost because of that ponzi scheme. (I have since lost the file.) I used the actual numbers of what was stolen from me plus my employers’ contribution and a conservative S&P 500-based mutual fund growth over those years. The amount that would be available to me today was huge. Not only would the earnings be several times greater than what I will get from SS, I would be able to pass the balance to my family when I croak. Stinking socialist robbery.


4 posted on 12/20/2007 10:59:44 AM PST by Proud2BeRight
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I love my country. I would die for the Constitution. But I hate my government. I hate what generations of snakes in elective office have done to the greatest nation and the freest people ever to grace the earth.

I couldn't have said it better myself.
5 posted on 12/20/2007 11:00:18 AM PST by rwh
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I he could not get his life together because of Social security, I believe he is pretty much a loser. Sorry but Social Secuirty is a small part of the overall tax base. I am one of the few that likes Social Security and happy that people have the opportunity to have it at retirement. They work for it afterall. I hope Social Security lasts forever. It is the only program besides the military I agree with financing.


6 posted on 12/20/2007 11:01:34 AM PST by napscoordinator
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bttt


7 posted on 12/20/2007 11:03:03 AM PST by JamesP81 ("I am against "zero tolerance" policies. It is a crutch for idiots." --FReeper Tenacious 1)
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Social Security was one big step in the drive to destroy American families.

Old people, the ones with wisdom, get moved to old folks homes where they cannot benefit their families by sharing their wisdom. Their children live on with guilty consciences for abandoning their beloved parents. The grandkids learn to dump responsibility on the government.

Everyone has parents, we should take care of our own without government interference and our children should do the same when our time comes.


9 posted on 12/20/2007 11:05:36 AM PST by donna (Duncan Hunter: US Army, 1969-1971, with service in Vietnam)
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All of society is entitled to my paycheck – except me

Back to indoctrination school for you until you learn to be happy giving your money away like a good socialist!

10 posted on 12/20/2007 11:05:44 AM PST by Cementjungle
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“I hate what generations of snakes in elective office have done to the greatest nation and the freest people ever to grace the earth.”

Whatever case we make to the world about our freedom, our draconian tax structure says otherwise.


13 posted on 12/20/2007 11:07:36 AM PST by Slapshot68
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Since 1983, all new federal employees must pay into SS. Others were offered the opportunity to join the system.


15 posted on 12/20/2007 11:09:07 AM PST by kabar
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President Bush tried to reform SS so it made more sense, but he was savaged by the Dims and betrayed by some Republicans. In my opinion amputation, cutting off SS immediately is the answer. Maybe in the next administration, tho as far as I can tell, none of the Republican candidates is for ending it, tho it would probably be political suicide to admit that was your plan.


18 posted on 12/20/2007 11:16:21 AM PST by FFranco
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Social Security is one thing, and I don’t like it because it’s a bad use of our money, but it’s a whole different problem when the politicians decided to use the money that was CONSFISCATED from us to buy votes for themselves by appeasing special interest groups. It should have been illegal...but they make the rules. So yes, we are slaves...like frogs in boiling water, it just took too long for most of us to figure out.


19 posted on 12/20/2007 11:16:47 AM PST by Aria (NO RAPIST ENABLER FOR PRESIDENT!!!)
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Gov. retiree here,,paid my SS,and anything else that the Gov. could figure,,,took home 50% of my pay,,make less now,still take home the same,go figure,,and Bob ,, me and the wife got our little 26.5 acres..Quit crying and “Git Er Done”..


20 posted on 12/20/2007 11:19:26 AM PST by silentreignofheroes (I'm Southron,,,and I Vote...)
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21 posted on 12/20/2007 11:20:23 AM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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Social Security is, and always has been, nothing more than a government run Ponzi scheme that will eventually go the way of ALL such schemes.


24 posted on 12/20/2007 11:22:11 AM PST by Bigun (IRS sucks @getridof it.com)
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The Teachers and the educational bureaucrats in Colorado have opted out of Social Security. There’s at least one other State that has allowed this.

So, go to work as a school janitor! In the long run you’ll make more money!


25 posted on 12/20/2007 11:22:37 AM PST by Loud Mime (Merry Christmas! When you hear "holidays," emphasize the CHRISTmas in return!)
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26 posted on 12/20/2007 11:22:45 AM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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Back when they came up with 401K’s I knew it was the beginning of the end for SS. Anyone who now assumes that SS will take care of them in their retirement is deluding themselves. It’s unfortunate, and I don’t like throwing money away either, but you have to “plan for the worst and hope for the best” with these things. If I actually do ever see one cent back from them it’ll be considered gravy.


28 posted on 12/20/2007 11:26:23 AM PST by Cementjungle
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We are little more than sharecroppers and slaves in a system of taxation and regulation which dictates everything in our lives...

AMEN!

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29 posted on 12/20/2007 11:28:42 AM PST by Bigun (IRS sucks @getridof it.com)
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The ponzi scheme which is the social security system, if implemented by any other organization, would be illegal and those who sold it would be behind bars. A blind man could see it from its inception.

But that nest of vipers sunk their fangs into us and acquired power and developed a dependency state. I am about 4 years from retirement age and my children will have to make a choice....to pay or put in politicians who will reverse this dastardly deed. I don't want my children to be enslaved by the government to the tune of 82% (some say) of their earnings, just to keep the social security system afloat. It is past time for a tea party again.

31 posted on 12/20/2007 11:29:16 AM PST by Texas Songwriter
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..why I hate the government, Social Security has to be near the top.

I hate to think what he will write when he decides to write about inflation.

34 posted on 12/20/2007 11:34:54 AM PST by Designer
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