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To: AppyPappy

I was raised Southern Baptist.. like Huckabee, and you know there were NO BLACKS, in any White Southern Baptist Churches, in the same era.


8 posted on 12/21/2007 4:40:52 AM PST by AmericanMade1776
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To: AmericanMade1776

Correct. I imagine Huck is willing to condemn that. A President has to be willing to condemn his church when the church is wrong. I know this, I am a Methodist. The Methodist church is wrong on a lot of things.

The unwillingness to criticize your church is a sign of weakness at best and a cult at worst.


9 posted on 12/21/2007 4:43:36 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: AmericanMade1776
Here is one of your "Born again Christians" of the same era as Mitt Romney's father.


10 posted on 12/21/2007 4:45:00 AM PST by AmericanMade1776
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To: AmericanMade1776

Ask yourself, how many black people live in Utah TODAY?

Doesn’t it make you wonder just a bit?

Another thing, Mitt Romney was 31 years old, just starting Bain Capital and a father of three children when the LDS Church finally ended its racial discrimination. I remember it well. I was a 22 year old Mormon woman who had just MET the first black person in her WHOLE life. I understand racial discrimination.


18 posted on 12/21/2007 4:59:52 AM PST by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: AmericanMade1776

Are there any there yet today?


100 posted on 12/21/2007 8:04:57 AM PST by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: AmericanMade1776
I was raised Southern Baptist.. like Huckabee, and you know there were NO BLACKS, in any White Southern Baptist Churches, in the same era.

The difference is that Southern Baptists do not have any underlying DOCTRINE behind any of their racism. Furthermore, Southern Baptists have reached out to African-Americans, as well as other ethnicities and now their seminaries are completely integrated.

Mormonism's underlying doctrine is that blacks descended from Cain and are thus still "dark and loathsome." The doctrine teaches that when a black man has truly undergone "faith, repentance and baptism," that he will become "white and delightsome." This doctrine has never been changed, in spite of the fact that the LDS Church now allows blacks to hold the priesthood.

I will vote for Romney if he is the nominee, but lets not whitewash the LDS church in order to elect him.

103 posted on 12/21/2007 8:07:14 AM PST by Guyin4Os (My name says Guyin40s but now I have an exotic, daring, new nickname..... Guyin50s)
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To: AmericanMade1776

I think we would agree that discrimination is wrong wherever it is found. However, I think you have to ask whether discrimination is in accord with scripture? You can’t justify discrimination in the Bible, but Momon prophets made it established policy.

IOW, Christians practiced discrimination contrary to scripture; Mormons practiced because it was doctrine of the LDS prophets.


142 posted on 12/21/2007 9:42:59 AM PST by GOPPachyderm
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