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Zogby Poll: Obama Leads Top Republicans (Romney -18, Huck -5, McCain -4)
Zogby ^ | 12/20/2007 | Zogby

Posted on 12/21/2007 8:39:55 PM PST by Ol' Sparky

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To: basil

zogby just supporting hussein


21 posted on 12/21/2007 9:20:28 PM PST by italianquaker (Is there anything Ron Paul doesn't blame the USA for?)
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To: Ol' Sparky

this is just so much useless crap propaganda it’s practically criminal.

seriously, what possible good is it to know a theoretical match up between people who have never gotten a vote in a presidential primary before?? other than the propaganda value for Obama, what else is this poll useful for?


22 posted on 12/21/2007 9:21:46 PM PST by bpjam (Harry Reid doesn't even have 32% of my approval)
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To: plain talk
The Real Clear Politics average of all polls shows Willard down 10% to Obama while McCain beats him by 1%.

The fact that he is becoming best known for telling Clinton-like whoopers is going make him any more electable.

23 posted on 12/21/2007 9:23:30 PM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: Ol' Sparky

Who is “Willard”?


24 posted on 12/21/2007 9:26:10 PM PST by plain talk
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To: plain talk

In fact, the RCP average all polls show him a sterling 18% on average behind John Edwards while every other candidate is at least 7% closer to Edwards.


25 posted on 12/21/2007 9:26:25 PM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: Ol' Sparky
In fact, the RCP average all polls show him

Who is "him"?

26 posted on 12/21/2007 9:28:01 PM PST by plain talk
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To: Ol' Sparky

And Tom McClintock could not beat the Dem, until they did exit polling, and found he would have won easily.


27 posted on 12/21/2007 9:30:00 PM PST by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Christ's Kingdom on Earth is the answer. What is your question?)
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To: Ol' Sparky
Define 'nationwide'.

Do you mean nationwide as in the nearest 3 states to hold primaries, or do you mean nationwide as in all 50 states?

Either way, it explains why what you say.

Assuming those ads were placed in all 50 states, over the course of 9 or 10 months that would be roughly one ad in each state per day--hardly enough to reach the consumer.

If those ads were placed strategically---and they were--- that says Mitt's barely started the race (along with everyone else).

Actually speaking, I trust democrats on a whole a lot more than about 25% of the republican base to not hammer Romney on his religion.

The only people hollering about it now is the branch dividian wing of the republican party.

28 posted on 12/21/2007 9:39:54 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: Ol' Sparky
Democrat Hillary Clinton of New York....would lose to Huckabee 48% to 43%...

Hard to believe. Maybe we need to really root for Hillary to be the Dem nominee.
29 posted on 12/21/2007 10:04:11 PM PST by no dems (FRED THOMPSON: The only Conservative running who can beat Hillary or Obama.)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

I read where such polls cost about $50,000 to conduct but they make three times that in profits. So they’re good business for the pollsters if nothing else.


30 posted on 12/21/2007 10:19:21 PM PST by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

With Zogby’s leftest leaning, it would be hard to convince me there is no politics in his polling.

I think many of the polls are politically driven.


31 posted on 12/21/2007 10:19:50 PM PST by TheLion
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To: Ol' Sparky

You can take 5-10 points from Obama when his middle name is used.


32 posted on 12/21/2007 10:31:49 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Democrat Happens!)
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To: Ol' Sparky

I don’t put a lot of stock in Zogby, but if this is true, it confirms what I thought about Mitt: He’s an appealing, charismatic, perfectly acceptable candidate who cannot win in the general.


33 posted on 12/21/2007 10:35:45 PM PST by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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Yeah. I think it depends on who is paying for the poll and whether they want it to be scientific and confidential or “adjusted” and for public dissemination. He lost a lot of credibility in 2004 because Rasmussen and some others called it closer. Zogby predicted in May 2004 that Kerry would win then seemed to adjust his “results” after that to support his wishful thinking.
34 posted on 12/21/2007 10:59:05 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: Ol' Sparky

Due to the electoral college this poll is worthless unless it takes into account the state matchups. It couldn’t possibly be able to do that without a huge, huge number of people polled.


35 posted on 12/21/2007 11:22:45 PM PST by torchthemummy (“America Will Not Reject Abortion Until America Sees Abortion” -Father Frank Pavone)
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To: TheLion

Clearly Zogby is carrying the Democrats’ water here...trying to show Mitt to be the weakest Republican general election candidate, when he may in fact be the strongest.


36 posted on 12/21/2007 11:48:54 PM PST by Azzurri
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To: denydenydeny

I’m afraid you may be right, but I’m not sure - Zogby supports Obama for the democrat nomination, Ron Paul for the other - speaks volumes.

And Romney probably could beat Hillary fairly easy if it comes to that.


37 posted on 12/21/2007 11:50:10 PM PST by Baladas
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To: Baladas
I think McPain was shown to be ahead of Hildabeast today above the margin of error. I think the top 3 or 4 Rpubs could beat either Dem. If Osam.....er...ahh...Obama can be elected to anything in Red America, I’m outta here.
38 posted on 12/22/2007 12:01:27 AM PST by chuckles
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To: basil; All

Don’t fool yourselves into thinking that Obama is not a wolf in a wool sweater very appealing to Americans.


39 posted on 12/22/2007 3:00:34 AM PST by unspun (God save us from egos -- especially our own.)
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To: SHEENA26
This poll is ludicrous.

I think not.

(And Fred Thompson so far has come across much like Robert Dole -- or the characterization of Dole in SNL.)

40 posted on 12/22/2007 3:02:25 AM PST by unspun (God save us from egos -- especially our own.)
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