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To: samtheman
True, but that might be the lowest bar in presidential history.

Nonsense.

No president has faced bigger challenges - a war on our shores, losing the largest number of civilians since the Civil War? An undeclared world war with your legislature the biggest obstacle to victory? A fighting force that is a fraction of that used in WWII? The real (not phony that Kennedy faced) prospect of nuked American cities?

As much as I love President Reagan, he lost the only opportunity to do something meaningful in this war when he left Beirut.

The bar that GWB is hurdling is that set by FDR, and FDR had a media that wouldn't even tell the people that he couldn't walk, much less that he was having a affair in the White House. Plus, FDR (wrongly) had a lot more latitude - can you imagine our President putting muslims in a concentration camp?

Please. God willing, we will win this war, and when that happens decades from now, historians will look at what GWB did in Iraq as the beginning of the end.

21 posted on 12/22/2007 4:39:03 AM PST by naturalized ("The time has come," He said. "The kingdom of God is near. Repent and believe the good news!")
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To: naturalized

Pay attention, naturalized. The discussion is much better when you do that.

Someone said “best president since Reagan”.

I said (referring to HW and Clinton) that’s a low bar.

You said: nonsense, and then went on to proclaim the achievements of W, as if my “low bar” remark was a critique of W, which it wasn’t.

I specifically mentioned daddums and the bent one in response to the concept “Best since Reagan”.

You are free to set your own bar if you want, bringing up FDR, but that’s not what I was responding to.

“Best since Reagan” MEANS comparing W to daddums and bent-Bubba.

In regards to THAT comparison, W is free to get one of those staples buttons and smack it hard: THAT WAS EASY!


24 posted on 12/22/2007 4:45:12 AM PST by samtheman (Huckabee. A Bible-Packing Leftist.)
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To: naturalized; Darkwolf377

There’s a reason I always love your posts: they are the voice of reason and cool common sense. Thank you, and thank you again!


33 posted on 12/22/2007 6:46:04 AM PST by alwaysconservative (F-f-f-forget Algore, I'm f-f-f-freezing!)
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To: naturalized
FDR had a media that wouldn't even tell the people that he couldn't walk, much less that he was having a affair in the White House. Plus, FDR (wrongly) had a lot more latitude - can you imagine our President putting muslims in a concentration camp?

WOW.

What an intelligent example of clear-thinking, and historical perspective.

Best post I've read on FR in ages.

51 posted on 12/23/2007 8:50:51 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Pro-Life atheist hoping everyone has a Merry CHRISTmas!)
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