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Not One But 'Six Giraffe Species'
BBC ^ | 12-22-2007 | Anna-Marie Lever

Posted on 12/22/2007 2:06:52 PM PST by blam

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To: AlphaNumericus

http://www.scs.uiuc.edu/~mcdonald/WorldHaplogroupsMaps.pdf

Maps of the world showing the distribution of Y chromosome and the MTDNA haplogroups throughout the world.

21 posted on 12/22/2007 3:37:51 PM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: AlphaNumericus

Of note:

R1

The undifferentiated R1 lineage is quite rare. It is found only at very low frequencies in Europe, Central Asia, and South Asia. This lineage possibly originated in Europe and then migrated east into Asia.

>>> R1a

The R1a lineage is believed to have originated in the Eurasian Steppes north of the Black and Caspian Seas. This lineage is believed to have originated in a population of the Korgan culture, known for the domestication of the horse (approximately 3000 B.C.E.). These people were also believed to be the first speakers of the Indo-European language group. This lineage is currently found in central and western Asia, India, and in Slavic populations of Eastern Europe.

>>> R1b1

Haplogroup R1b1 is the most common haplogroup in European populations. It is believed to have expanded throughout Europe as humans re-colonized after the last glacial maximum 10-12 thousand years ago. This lineage is also the haplogroup containing the Atlantic modal haplotype.

http://htmlsd.com/haplogroups.htm


22 posted on 12/22/2007 3:43:31 PM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: CarrotAndStick

Thanks. I’ve already done my DNA. I’m yDNA R1b and mtDNA ‘V’ (which you don’t show in that chart). ‘V’ is mainly Saami, Laplanders.


23 posted on 12/22/2007 3:45:04 PM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: CarrotAndStick

R1b Genographic Migration Map

24 posted on 12/22/2007 3:47:28 PM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam

Gee...well, then all those species must be endangered, right...


25 posted on 12/22/2007 3:49:11 PM PST by RavenATB
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To: CarrotAndStick

DNA Ice Age Refuges 12,000 Years ago

26 posted on 12/22/2007 3:51:08 PM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam

Interesting!


27 posted on 12/22/2007 3:54:08 PM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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I wonder what giraffe would taste like.


28 posted on 12/22/2007 3:57:42 PM PST by isom35
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To: Steely Tom
Zebras are reactionaries
Antelopes are missionaries
Pigeons plot in secrecy
While hamsters turn on frequently.
29 posted on 12/22/2007 3:58:55 PM PST by Publius (A = A)
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To: blam
“Mr Brown also highlighted the conservation implications of this study: “Lumping all giraffes into one species obscures the reality that some kinds of giraffe are on the brink.

“Some of these populations number only a few hundred individuals and need immediate protection.” “

The sum and substance of this article’s agenda is that if giraffes can be divided by the infamous “trinomial (subspecies), then funding can be justified.

This is the old Lumpers v. Splitters argument. Those wanting to split species based on minor coat patterns are either grad students seeking a thesis or established scientists seeking Endangered Species Act funding.

The rest of us know what a giraffe knows - If it looks like one, it IS one.

30 posted on 12/22/2007 5:29:16 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

“separated 0.5 to 1.5 million years ago.”

Dang, I had no idea a giraffe could get that old.


31 posted on 12/22/2007 7:20:14 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Tuesday, December 18, 2007___________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv; DaveLoneRanger

> > > > > > “separated 0.5 to 1.5 million years ago.”

> > > Dang, I had no idea a giraffe could get that old.


This ‘scientist’ is running neck and neck with the inventor of Piltdown Man for my awed respect...


32 posted on 12/22/2007 7:50:31 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: unspun

Horses and donkeys can mate. Granted, their offspring are always sterile, but they do produce offspring.


33 posted on 12/23/2007 5:43:11 AM PST by ops33 (Retired USAF Senior Master Sergeant)
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