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Smoking ban 'unenforceable'
Jackson County Examiner ^ | December 19, 2007 | Toriano L. Porter |

Posted on 12/22/2007 6:11:08 PM PST by elkfersupper

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To: Despot of the Delta

A Jackson County Missouri (Independence/KC) judge also declared the particular ordinance in this thread to be illegal when the bar owner went to court because the ordinance is poorly written. In our fair city, KC, the proposed ordinance banning smoking allows the casinos to be exempted. I would think if that one passes it too will be a court case celebre.


41 posted on 12/23/2007 6:46:39 AM PST by CARTOUCHE ( The pen is mightier than the sword and so much easier to conceal)
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To: metesky
Sixty-four years of standing in the corner says I won't.

Sixty four years standing in a corner?
Two questions:
#1 - Are you sort of triangular in the front from standing in that corner so long?
#2 - What in the heck did you do to your mom to get a, "Go stand in the corner for sixty-four years" punishment?

_. . _
O. O
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42 posted on 12/23/2007 6:56:08 AM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: BuffaloJack
Exactly when was it that Law Enforcement Officers were required to obtain lobotomies before being accepted into the force?M

My estimation would be 1993.

43 posted on 12/23/2007 6:36:22 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: metesky

You’re a rebel and an American Patriot. The sheeple will obey.

The founding fathers would have done something a little different in the face of this tyranny.


44 posted on 12/23/2007 9:04:25 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

As someone wiser than we once said, “Sheep are made for shearing.”


45 posted on 12/24/2007 2:48:43 AM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: BuffaloJack
Exactly when was it that Law Enforcement Officers were required to obtain lobotomies before being accepted into the force?

IMHO, it isn't so much a matter of surgical procedure as it is so many people believing that the 'law' is whatever government says it is.

46 posted on 12/24/2007 5:43:09 AM PST by MamaTexan (** Government was not made to create the Law, but to follow it **)
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To: BuffaloJack
"Exactly when was it that Law Enforcement Officers were required to obtain lobotomies before being accepted into the force?"

Don't know 'bout that, but it's a sure bet that they're required to check their consciences at the door. Any LEO who would participate in something like this is an amoral thug, plain and simple. "It's part of my job" isn't an excuse.
47 posted on 12/24/2007 5:50:21 AM PST by LIConFem (Thompson. Lifetime ACU Rating: 86 -- Hunter Lifetime ACU Rating: 92 (any combo will do, fellas))
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To: elkfersupper

Those guys look like they’re teed up to shoot one another in the back of the head, especially if they encounter someone who understands tactics who had an assistant pull a flanking maneuver on them.


48 posted on 12/24/2007 5:58:38 AM PST by Hardastarboard (DemocraticUnderground.com is an internet hate site.)
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To: CARTOUCHE

I am fortunate to live in a mid-sized West Texas city that has no smoking ban applicable to commercial establishments. They ban smking in all public buildings, but this I see as reasonable. Anyone, including thiose truly offended by smoke, might be required to enter those places. Most large stores and malls ban smoking of their own volition, again, if done by the owner, I have no problem, that is his right.

The barkeep handle is for real, I did that for quite a while. In my experience, the percentage of smokers may be a minority in the general population, but that reverses in bars. I can say this; I have never seen a non-smoking bar that lasted any time UNLESS the nannies had banned smoking in all bars. Then you see most of the patrons taking breaks to go huddle in the elements from time to time.

San Angelo has taken the rational position that the owner of a commercial establishment knows best his customers’ preference and will cater to it out of self interest. But then, we also have a Christmas creche on the courthouse lawn with no legal challenge. A remarkable island of minor freedoms I inhabit.


49 posted on 12/24/2007 6:22:25 AM PST by barkeep (Post Hoc, Ergo Propter Hoc)
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To: Despot of the Delta

Nice catch.


50 posted on 12/24/2007 5:30:44 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper; Gabz
Gentry said two patrol officers were asked to assist the Health Department workers because of the intimidation factor at Player's Club that night....

The "intimidation factor?"

51 posted on 12/27/2007 6:42:20 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: Madame Dufarge
The "intimidation factor?"

Potential resistance to stupid laws requires a SWAT team.

52 posted on 12/27/2007 6:03:44 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper

ahh... the smoking police

I can’t believe this is going on. (sigh)


53 posted on 01/05/2008 12:18:13 AM PST by Ymani Cricket
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