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Savior or Saboteur? (Clintons' inflict their eternal conjugal psychodrama)
The New York Times ^ | December 23, 2007 | MAUREEN DOWD

Posted on 12/22/2007 11:06:40 PM PST by Liz

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To: Chode

Looking at that picture reminds me of a rumor I heard once. Erskine Bowles is Jesse Helms’ love child.


41 posted on 12/23/2007 8:15:12 AM PST by csmusaret (Mnimum wage today; maximum wage tomorrow. It's the Socialist way.)
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To: AmericaUnited

The truth is that Bill and Hitlery hate each other with a pure passion. The only stay together for what’s in it for them. As soon as “what I get vs what I give” tips under the 50% mark, they will try to kill each other.””

Legally, I think they HAVE to “stay together”. They each know too much dirt about the other, and collectively, they definately are poison wo all those around them.

Makes one wonder what they each did in their prior lives? Anyone want to ask Sylvia Browne??


42 posted on 12/23/2007 8:43:46 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Liz
When Bill gets slit-eyed, red-faced and finger-wagging in defense of Hillary, is he really defending himself, ego in full bloom, against aspersions Obama and Edwards cast on Clintonian politics?

.I did not have sex with Hillary

43 posted on 12/23/2007 9:30:40 AM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (NY Times: "fake but accurate")
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To: csmusaret

where does it end... 8^)


44 posted on 12/23/2007 9:32:00 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist)
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To: AmericaUnited
The truth is that Bill and Hitlery hate each other with a pure passion.

It's clear why she chose to stay with him. He was her meal ticket -- the route to power, for herself.

But why did he stay with her? When all you want to do is chase young women, why put up with the harpy at home? Sure, she let him do it -- but she made him pay a price.

But what benefit did he gain from the marriage?

There's something we don't know about their relationship...

45 posted on 12/23/2007 9:46:29 AM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Chode

“where does it end....”

never....they will never go away.


46 posted on 12/23/2007 9:55:37 AM PST by ripley
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To: Chode

"Man, that chick you sent to my room last night was a dog from the neck up."

47 posted on 12/23/2007 10:08:44 AM PST by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: Bon mots
BUBBA AND FLUBBA

"Hillary, your iowa polling doesn't look too good for The Clinton Legacy."

"Drop dead, Bill."

48 posted on 12/23/2007 10:10:51 AM PST by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: okie01

He’s a momma’s boy.
And she’s the evil momma that always makes bad things right.


49 posted on 12/23/2007 10:26:27 AM PST by COUNTrecount
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To: COUNTrecount
He’s a momma’s boy.

Is that really all there is to it?

Does he simply have a psychological dependency on her?

There are a lot of possible pathologies in a relationship so perverse as their's. So, it's conceivable...

50 posted on 12/23/2007 10:37:27 AM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: okie01

Of course there’s much more to it. BJ is the poster boy for...

DSM-IV-TR® Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders
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The standard diagnostic tool used by mental health professionals worldwide to promote reliable research, accurate diagnosis, and thus appropriate treatment and patient care. Each psychiatric disorder with its corresponding diagnostic code is accompanied by a set of diagnostic criteria and descriptive details including associated features, prevalence, familial patterns, age-, culture-, and gender-specific features, and differential diagnosis.


51 posted on 12/23/2007 10:47:26 AM PST by COUNTrecount
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To: hinckley buzzard
FP: Without handlers, Bill is little more than ego, feigned empathy, and horn-dog lechery.

HB: I think you are right on this.

Forgive the lack of modesty, please, but I know I'm right. Bill is just an actor looking for a good script right now. He needs lines and direction; he's not creative enough to come up with his own material. For me, Phil Hartman, of Saturday Night Live fame, playing the Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer back in the 80s, seemed illuminate Clinton's primary "talent".
52 posted on 12/23/2007 11:24:15 AM PST by flowerplough (Ron Paul on War: "War is bad, mmm-kay. If you do war, you're bad. Mmm-kay?")
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To: flowerplough
"seemed to illuminate"
53 posted on 12/23/2007 1:35:00 PM PST by flowerplough (Ron Paul on War: "War is bad, mmm-kay. If you do war, you're bad. Mmm-kay?")
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To: Liz
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54 posted on 12/23/2007 2:07:06 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist)
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To: Liz
Is Bill a loyal spouse or a subconscious saboteur?

People still have to ask? Okay... I think it's pretty obvious to most of us, just not to Ms Dowd.

55 posted on 12/23/2007 2:22:13 PM PST by fortunecookie (Communism/socialism has failed millions, it wasn't right for them - and it isn't right for US.)
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To: Liz
Huh? Say what? Only now "for the first time" since the Rich debacle his friends are seeing the real Bill? Man, those Dims sure are s-l-o-w to catch on.

LOL, so very true. Dim. Of course, they were so eager to hang on his coattails, be his yes-men, part of his entourage, they overlooked whatever nagging suspicions they had. Oh, the 'tolerant' left. Like folks falling for that special someone who abuses them, they overlook danger signs, red flags. Of course, Bill is known to be suave, charismatic. It would be unlikely that his yes-men would see through it right off.

Course, many if us are gratified the Mark Rich pardon atrocity is being revisited.

Amen to that. I surely didn't think it would be, at least not now with Hil running and the MSM pulling for her, or any Dem.

56 posted on 12/23/2007 2:29:34 PM PST by fortunecookie (Communism/socialism has failed millions, it wasn't right for them - and it isn't right for US.)
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To: fortunecookie

Dowd’s posing the question is quite existential-—makes her readers think-—and draw conclusions.


57 posted on 12/23/2007 2:37:42 PM PST by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: Liz; Lorraine

This political/marital soap opera has gotten very old. The last thing the country needs is another 8 years of it.


58 posted on 12/23/2007 3:44:52 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (You can't be serious about national security unless you're serious about border security)
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To: Liz
Dowd’s posing the question is quite existential-—makes her readers think-—and draw conclusions.

Oh, yes, let's hope they do. I guess I missed her intent, because it's a conclusion that I've reached some time ago and assumed others had. I guess some of us just got there faster. ;-)

59 posted on 12/23/2007 5:03:11 PM PST by fortunecookie (Communism/socialism has failed millions, it wasn't right for them - and it isn't right for US.)
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To: Liz

They remind us of passive aggressive couples, who covertly stab their spouse in the back indirectly while smiling for the camera and power friends.

We know of couples like the Clintoons, who present the united front, and then shred each other when they are not together.


60 posted on 12/24/2007 2:02:55 PM PST by Grampa Dave ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!"- Jim Robinson, Sept, 30, 2007)
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