Posted on 12/24/2007 3:09:26 PM PST by wazoo1031
Anger over plan to broadcast Muslim call to prayer on loudspeaker in Oxford Last updated at 12:46pm on 24th December 2007
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Outrage: Proposals for loudspeaker Muslim calls to prayer in central Oxford have been attacked by local residents
MORE NEWS Muslim plans to broadcast a loudspeaker call to prayer from a city centre mosque have been attacked by local residents who say it would turn the area into a "Muslim ghetto".
Dozens of people packed out a council meeting to express their concerns over the plans for a two-minute long call to prayer to be issued three times a day, saying that it could drown out the traditional sound of church bells.
But a spokesman for the Central Mosque said that Muslim's also have the right to summon worshippers.
Dr Mark Huckster, who lives in Stanton Road and works at East Oxford hospice Helen House, told the Oxford Mail: "The proposal to issue a prayer call is very un-neighbourly, especially in a crowded urban space such as Oxford.
"I have lived in the Middle East and a prayer call has a very different feel to church bells and I personally found the noise extremely unpleasant, rather disturbing and very alien to the western mindset."
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Again, sorry if it’s a repeat! MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL!! :-)
Probably just have to get used to it. Same thing happening in Detroit area, despite protests.
Wouldn’t it be way less intrusive for all observant Muslims to carry a personal communication device that is set on “vibrate” when the hour of prayer is at hand? Those of us who are NOT Muslim, and never intend to be, would find this a much better public-relations tactic than blasting out an overwhelming cacaphony at fixed intervals.
There is something militaristic and totalitarian about these “calls to prayer” being broadcast in the public square.
But a spokesman for the Central Mosque said that Muslim’s also have the right to summon worshippers.... So? Call Western Union. And then throw out all the Moe- Ham- Heads.
I’m looking forward to the disturbing the peace charges.
If you’re in Turkey you expect it although at first it does interrupt the train of thought, which is the intent of course. In the West no one has the right to interrupt anybody’s train of thought.
Ourageous. I hope the locals kick up enough of a fuss. Why don’t they honestly move over to Saudi Arabia if they want that sort of thing. WE the British people certainly don’t.
Right, I’ll be off to our midnight service now.
I wish you all a very merry Christmas!
read below.
The Invasion is on.
According to the raghead religion, any area that is within hearing range of the call to prayer, is muslim land.
Some well timed marine horns would be top notch.
Stage 1:
Start immigrating - move into a country quietly
Stage 2:
Begin starting churches: “learning centers” community helps: food etc.
Stage 3:
Political activism: demanding rights, denounce derogatory comments/press etc.
Stage 4:
Get elected, pass laws favoring rights etc. move toward political majority
Stage 5:
Political control, Sharia Law
Heres the original thread from this am
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1943750/posts
Hamtramck Mi. (Detroit)
It used to be a predominantly Polish Catholic area.
The case can be made that bells are traditionally used for secular purposes as well as religious, and that call to prayer has no purpose other than religious.
I hate listening to call to prayer and would raise a freaking ruckus.
You’re so lucky! The midnight Masses in Chester have been cancelled, due to unruly drunken hoodie yobs! I could have gone to one tonight way across town (not that its that big) at 9:00, but I’d already cracked open the wine and wasn’t going to go alone. My only other Catholic friend (who is Irish) lives too far away to get the bus as they stop service and taxis double their rates on Christmas and New Year’s Eve...and they wonder why the rates of drink-driving have increased exponentially over the Holidays! I know that in New Orleans and Houston the cab service is free if you call them and slur enough, as they’d rather compensate the cabbies with taxpayer money than have to deal with the cost of scraping folks off the pavement...it is cheaper in the long run. What do they not do that in England? Oh, that’s right, its cost effective...Double the rates, which pretty much guarantees that people are gonna drive drunk, I mean that is such Crap! Anyway, again, wishing you and yours a Merry Christmas!
“Muslim ghetto” - do you have any idea how hard it is to clean frito pie off a screen?!?
I don’t suppose any Muslim would mind if they broadcast the Lord’s Prayer before and a Hail Mary after the cacaphony?
You can say that again. Always sounded like H. Ross Perot singing in tongues to me.
I’d love to go to Mecca with a megaphone and recite the Lord’s Prayer...My death would be swift (at least I hope, with those Barbarians) and I’d be a martyr!
LOL!! H. Ros Pee-Rot...and can we ever forget his “running mate”? Phil Hartman had a dead-on impression...no pun intended! The world is not as funny of a place without him...he was hysterical!
Waddabout: 'here pig pig piggy pig here here piggy' blasted at the same time as their 'prayer' calls?
And lest we forget Dana Carvey’s Dead-on impression of H. Ross himself...
Wouldn’t it be better to bring back Richard the Lionhearted and post his image, bill-board style, at the entrance to each city in America?
I don’t see that everyone has the right to broadcast noise into the area at will, or?
Spot on, these Muslins want to get your "western mindset" right. Capitulate and kowtow.
In another generation you will be the "alien"
They can have their blasted whoodling when the Christian churches in Saudi Arabia start tolling matins and vespers and.... Oh, right. Never mind...
They could, but that's not the point
The purpose of the call to prayer, and the tall minarets, is to mark all the territory within hearing of the call and sight of the minaret as being Muslim territory, and to indicate to all infidels within range that they are in Muslim turf
That is the BEST IDEA I’ve ever heard!!! I LOVE IT!!! ;-) We need to remember where we came from - a once proud and noble sovereignty called “Great Britain”, with its rich and noble history and I hope still our staunchest Allies, based on CHRISTIANITY! I just don’t get Libbie Leftists...I really don’t...
“Those of us who are NOT Muslim, and never intend to be, would find this a much better public-relations tactic than blasting out an overwhelming cacaphony at fixed intervals.”
This is exactly what they want - upset the American non-muslims and change the culture of this nation. America, your goose is cooked.
And they won’t have to worry about public-relations; they know that we will lose that battle anyway as we bend backwards and forwards fawning over Islam. And these are the so-called ‘moderates’ among the Muslims.
So the minarets will arise over Oxford despite Charles Martel. So much for the sneers of Gibbon, then.
where is Guy Fawkes when you need him?
Oh Dear, you’re scaring me! I’ve been in England for the past 3 years, going back to the States every year or so, and that scares the Hell out of me! The reason I say that is because I thought it was so bad in Britain, but my brother who lives in Florida and you are scaring the Hell out of me with what’s going on our own country! I NEVER thought we could be as bad as Britain...I am praying we don’t...where the Hell are we supposed to go? I need to pump out a white Christian baby Pronto!!!
(But a spokesman for the Central Mosque said that Muslim’s also have the right to summon worshippers.)
Ever heard of the internet mother f7$#@%?
All his arguments are right and just, they are simply irrelevant. He does not even have a glimmer of understanding that he has brought this upon himself with his own policies. It is probably now too late.
Oh I do not mean that he might not prevail on the issue of the clamor for prayers broadcast piercingly through the pastor's serenity, I mean that he is in a demographic war. He is unaware has even been declared. Much like most of America who failed to react to Pat Buchanan's cultural war speech in the 1988 Republican convention when they let the enemy steal the offensive in the cultural war and now they are bitter and impotent. The pastor is in a war to the finish for the survival of his genteel oh so politically correct world. A lamb to the slaughter.
He wanted a multicultural world, and now, by God, he has got it.
Your death would begin with you going to Mecca. Their peaceful religion of peace does not tolerate lowly kufir in the presence of their capital. Same if you attempt to enter Medina.
This requires waking people up at dawn and again late at night.
They also want an exception to be able to pump out amplified announcements.
Even the Beatles final concert was ended by a noise complaint lodged by a banker on the noon hour.
And this isn’t a singular exception in the law, this is five times EVERY day.
You can bet that if the Muslims don’t get their way, they’ll demand that the church bells be silent.
Oh, pshaw. Since when have Muslims ever exhibited even an ounce of un-neighbourliness?
>Muslim’s also have the right to summon worshippers.
I love how Christians/Jews have zero rights in Moslem countries, but we fall over ourselves to give them rights here.
The citizens of Oxford might want to think of having a pig calling contest at their next fall fair...hold it right outside of the Mosque...see how they like being multicultural.
Isn't Prince Charles on record saying that he will change that when he becomes King so that he is the "Defender of Faith" (faith in general) rather than defender of a particular faith?
Frankly, if forcing the state to allow the Muslim call to prayer will help force them to also allow we Christians to once again have traditional Christmas observances — the manger in the square, the town “Christmas” rather than the thoroughly offensive “Holiday” tree, the school Christmas pageant, Christmas carols the belfry of the the town hall — I say let’s get on with it and strike a blow for religious freedom.
And it’ll happen over here, thanks to “Goron” Brown...England is as good as extinct thanks to “New Labour” I can’t wait to get Home to America before its too late, though please tell me we won’t let this happen in our great country?!
A properly aimed 12 gauge shotgun would do well to modify the electrical parameter of a loudspeaker!
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