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Pope hails persecuted Christians as modern martyrs
Yahoo! News / Reuters ^ | Dec 26, 2007

Posted on 12/26/2007 10:25:28 AM PST by monkapotamus

Pope hails persecuted Christians as modern martyrs

Wed Dec 26, 7:31 AM ET

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope Benedict said on Wednesday that Christians faced persecution, torture and death in some parts of the world and continued to be made martyrs for their faith.

In a message to pilgrims on the day after Christmas -- the feast day of St. Stephen, considered the first Christian martyr -- the Pope said Christians who die for their faith pray for forgiveness for their killers.

"We should always note that this is a distinctive characteristic of the Christian martyr -- it is exclusively an act of love, towards God and towards men, including the persecutors," he told crowds in a rainy St. Peter's Square.

"Christian martyrdom reminds us of the victory of love over hatred and death," he said.

St. Stephen was stoned to death by a mob in Jerusalem at a time when Christianity was first starting to spread. The Pope said such martyrdoms continued to this day.

"It is not rare even today that we receive news from various parts of the world of missionaries, priests, bishops, monks, nuns and lay people persecuted, imprisoned, tortured, deprived of their liberty or prevented from exercising it because they are disciples of Christ and apostles of the Gospel," he said.

The Pope did not give any examples, but it is less than two weeks since an Italian Catholic priest was stabbed in his church in Turkey, the latest in a spate of attacks on Christians in the predominantly Muslim country.

Another Italian priest in Turkey was shot dead in his church by a teenager in February, and in April three Christians had their throats cut at a Bible publishing house there.

On Wednesday, Hindu hardliners in India burned and damaged 12 churches, killing at least one person, in an outbreak of violence sparked by the reported injuring of a local Hindu leader by a Christian group.


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1 posted on 12/26/2007 10:25:31 AM PST by monkapotamus
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2 posted on 12/26/2007 10:37:06 AM PST by monkapotamus
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To: monkapotamus
The Pope did not give any examples

Understandable, since the far and away preponderance of Christian martyrs these days are protestants.

3 posted on 12/26/2007 10:41:41 AM PST by Migraine (...diversity is great... until it happens to YOU...)
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Father Ragheed Aziz Ganni
Martyr to the Faith
1972 - 2007

After celebrating Sunday mass, Fr Ragheed and his three aides were leaving the Parish by car, accompanied by the wife of one of the sub-deacons,, Gassan Isam Bidawed. In recent days the three insisted on accompanying Fr Ragheed to protect him. “They were young men alive with faith, who accompanied their parish priests every more, risking their lives for their belief in Christ”, their friends tell. Suddenly, at the corner of the road, their car was blocked by unknown armed men militants who ordered the woman to distance herself from the others and then, in cold blood, shot the remaining passengers, repeatedly. The aggressor’s then booby trapped the car with explosives; with the aim of further carnage should anyone come near the car to recover the bodies. In the immediate aftermath of the attack, the bodies remained, abandoned on the city street, because no one dared to approach. It was only towards ten pm (Local time) that security forces finally defused the explosives allowing corpses to be recovered. Fr. Ragheed is the first Catholic priest to have been killed in Iraq since 2003.

Fr. Ragheed was born in Mosul in 1972. In 1993, He received his Civil Engineering degree from University of Mosul. He studied in Rome from 1996 to 2003 where he received a master degree in Theology.

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4 posted on 12/26/2007 10:44:12 AM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: monkapotamus

While we here in the states take our comfy faith for granted FAR TOO often.

The persecuted Christians in China would much rather be here, I’m sure, having a church meeting on who’s going to cut the grass this week; than running for their very lives and meeting in secret.

I’m humbled by the sacrifice of those living in dangerous countries, and dying for their faith. Here in my comfortable chair, I’ve no cause to complain about ANYTHING!


5 posted on 12/26/2007 10:54:35 AM PST by ItsOurTimeNow ("Never get involved in a land war in Asia.")
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
While we here in the states take our comfy faith for granted FAR TOO often. The persecuted Christians in China would much rather be here, I’m sure, having a church meeting on who’s going to cut the grass this week; than running for their very lives and meeting in secret. I’m humbled by the sacrifice of those living in dangerous countries, and dying for their faith. Here in my comfortable chair, I’ve no cause to complain about ANYTHING ditto.
6 posted on 12/26/2007 11:46:09 AM PST by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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To: Migraine
Understandable, since the far and away preponderance of Christian martyrs these days are protestants.

Good luck sourcing that one...

7 posted on 12/26/2007 11:46:37 AM PST by pgyanke (Duncan Hunter 08--You want to elect a conservative? Then support a conservative!)
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To: NYer

In memory of the dry white martyrs who have suffered quiet persecution at Catholic institutions under the control of heretical modernists, socialists and their liberal anti-Catholic buddies these last thirty years or so.


8 posted on 12/26/2007 7:14:16 PM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: pgyanke
Good luck sourcing that one...

Granted, it is difficult; but I make a continual study (and a matter of prayer and action) over the phenomenon of modern Christian martyrdom. And I do not denigrate or minimize those Christian martyrs who are Catholic -- far from it. But the numbers are just overwhelming. Protestants tend to be more disparate, less hierarchical, less governmentally-connected, and they just suffer; they are picked off much more easily in communist- and muslim-dominated areas.

Here are some statistics that show what I am talking about:
From this Catholic site --
http://www.ratzingerfanclub.com/blog/2006/01/catholic-martyrs-in-2005.html
We find:
Each year the Fides news agency, an arm of the Vatican Congregation, publishes a list of the year's "martyrs for the faith." In 2004, there were 16 people on the list; for 2005 the list in nearly twice as long. In previous years Fides had listed 30 slain evangelists in 2000, 33 in 2001, 25 in 2002, and 29 in 2003. In this year's list Fides includes 1 bishop, 20 priests, 2 nuns, 2 monks, and 1 lay catechist.

From this seminary site:
http://christianity.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ&sdn=christianity&cdn=religion&tm=31&gps=128_1013_1020_567&f=00&tt=11&bt=1&bts=1&zu=http%3A//www.gordonconwell.edu/ockenga/globalchristianity/resources.php

...a chart shows that the average number of Christian martyrs each year is a whopping 173,000.

So, while I hesitate to make a protestant/catholic distinction here, I did have a point to make -- and I find it understandable that the Pope did not get down to cases and numbers, although I think it would have been appropriate. I think he probably just has a hard time assigning the label "Christians" to protestants, especially in his position.

9 posted on 12/26/2007 7:34:51 PM PST by Migraine (...diversity is great... until it happens to YOU...)
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To: Migraine
The Vatican numbers you are quoting are for those under Holy Orders. However, on the lay side of the equation, the numbers are overwhelming. The predominant Christian denomination in the Phillipines is Catholic... same in Indonesia... same in the Middle East... same in India... and China...

I don't minimize the sufferings of my Protestant brethren in any way, but to say that they are bearing the lion's share of the world's Christian suffering is beyond reason.

I think he probably just has a hard time assigning the label "Christians" to protestants, especially in his position.

You think wrong. I will give you a quote from Scripture to understand the mind of the Pope on the subject:

Luke 9:49 And John, answering, said: Master, we saw a certain man casting out devils in thy name: and we forbade him, because he followeth not with us. 50 And Jesus said to him: Forbid him not: for he that is not against you is for you.

We, in the Catholic Church, have the Apostolic Succession and the Truth in its fullness as given us by Christ. However, those who profess the name of Jesus--who are not of our number--are in no ways our enemy... or not Christian.

10 posted on 12/27/2007 5:52:34 AM PST by pgyanke (Duncan Hunter 08--You want to elect a conservative? Then support a conservative!)
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity; tioga
In memory of the dry white martyrs who have suffered quiet persecution at Catholic institutions under the control of heretical modernists, socialists and their liberal anti-Catholic buddies these last thirty years or so.

Indeed. A few years ago I attended the funeral of such a priest. The priests in attendance were all white haired, their faces weary from years of struggle in this diocese. It was quite moving when they all stood and sang "You are a priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek". 6 more years to go.

Hubbard Countdown

11 posted on 12/27/2007 6:34:13 AM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: pgyanke
You think wrong.

Thank you. It is OK to be put in my place by someone who has the Truth in its fullness.

12 posted on 12/27/2007 7:25:30 AM PST by Migraine (...diversity is great... until it happens to YOU...)
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To: Migraine

I hear your sarcasm... but you are still wrong. Just for fun, why don’t you back up your own assertion? Show me ANY quote that suggests the Pope doesn’t see Protestants as fellow Christians.

I’ll wait...


13 posted on 12/27/2007 7:43:28 AM PST by pgyanke (Duncan Hunter 08--You want to elect a conservative? Then support a conservative!)
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To: monkapotamus

Benedict “gets it” on Christian persecution at the hands of the ROP. John Paul II either didn’t get it, or turned a blind eye.


14 posted on 12/27/2007 7:45:25 AM PST by montag813
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To: montag813

...Or dealt with it differently.


15 posted on 12/27/2007 8:03:29 AM PST by pgyanke (Duncan Hunter 08--You want to elect a conservative? Then support a conservative!)
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