Once Again Retailers Admit Which "Holiday" They Meant

Multiple: Macys, Kmart, Barnes and Noble ^ | 12-27-07 | self

[Clemenza]

Well, Elijah Muhammed "reformed" Islam to something barely resembling Islam. The NOI are a bunch of black guys trying to act like white Rotarians from the 1920s IMHO.

Muslims have a big problem. The urbanized population of Iran has already become more secular less than thirty years after the Revolution. Other countries will likely follow said trend.

[VeniVidiVici]

:) Thanks for the laugh!

[ItsOurTimeNow]

>>Home Depot had a beautiful nativity scene on some of its gift cards<<

Were they written in English or in Spanish?

[a real Sheila]

One day I was out running errands before CHristmas.
I was very pleased to be LOUDLY told, “Merry CHristmas” by various store personnel. THere must have been quite a lot of backlash from the last 2 years of political “Happy Holidays” crap.

[dbwz]

Why do you keep expecting these sick, crass commercial institutions to recognize something other than the sick, crass and commercial? The goal of a business is to make money, not cater to your personal beliefs. Even if by some stretch of the imagination they DID recognize and use the word "Christmas" in advertising and sales, you can bet the motivation would be far less than satisfactory to you, or it would be gone the next season because trends have directed them elsewhere.

Here's a suggestion. Stop buying stuff for "Holiday" and celebrate Christmas for what it is. No commercial justification for your beliefs is required.

[durasell]

It’s very simple — you either join the global club or get left behind.

Not for nothing, but many Americans are facing the same situation, though without resorting to violence.

[puroresu]

Could you be more specific? Are you saying America and other Western nations will have to give up our traditions, our traditional faiths, our culture and identity, to fit into a secularized global regime?

[Antoninus]

I've been going out of my way to avoid retailers that can't bother to call the "holiday" by it's right name--Christmas.

As a result, Barnes & Noble got none of my Christmas shopping this year.

[June Cleaver]

Living in Austin I meet a large number of people who are "spiritual not religious".

Typically they mean they like the stuff you get out of a religion without having to put up with the stuff you put in.

That is, they want the fellowship, the community, the sense of security of knowing that there is more to life than our time here on earth, but they don't want to have to put up with any rules. They believe that god(s) care enough about them to love them but not to impose any rules on the way they have to live, and that "any path" is OK.

Incidentally I have a large number of Hindu acquaintances at school. I'm seeing more any more Christians drifting towards a Vedic like belief that all ways to god/spirituality are OK. I was at a church a while ago and a few members actually confided in me that they didn't really believe in God, but they liked the idea of belonging to a church. That certainly took me off guard...

-paridel

[dangus]

>> Maybe they meant the Greek Orthodox Solstice <<

Bwahahaha!

[Paridel]

Opps! Sorry, visiting relatives and their account auto logged on.

-paridel

[longtermmemmory]

No Christmas = NO SALE

literally. These retailers are marketing idiots. BEYOND idiots.

They could have tied the gift giving to the three wise men, Christmas joy. Instead they have gone sooooo over the top commerically that they have no way to justify the gifts. It is hard NOT to give a christmas gift. It is super duper easy not to give a generic-whatever-holiday gift.

Holiday is about “like”
Christmas is about “love”
People do not move mountains because they are “in like”.

[Psycho_Bunny]

I live and work in downtown Seattle and it's about a mile and a half walk to work.

Walking from home to work takes me through the retail core of the city.....past Nordstrom, Gap, Banana Republic and Macys, etc.

Nowhere between home and work was the work "Christmas" visible.  Nowhere.

[longtermmemmory]

Greek Orthodox celebrates Christmas on the 25th like everyone else. (new testament written in Greek and all that)

[longtermmemmory]

The word Christmas is used less and less....

Sales plunge lower and lower....

and yet,

stock holders of Federated Department Stores say nothing...

[puroresu]

You got it! Whenever someone tells me they’re “spiritual, but not religious” I expect that person to be pretty shallow. And my expectations are usually met.

[Da_Shrimp]

Nice to see the 'C' word still in use now and then across the pond.

I've often seen England accused of being virtually run by Muslims on this forum. Yet in my local high street, there's a huge Christmas tree and lots of 'Merry Christmas' signs. And under the tree: a Nativity scene. All put there by local government (ie the Town Council).

[durasell]

Are you saying America and other Western nations will have to give up our traditions, our traditional faiths, our culture and identity, to fit into a secularized global regime?

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Not at all. There is no global regime and probably won’t be, but the ability to work with/within other cultures is becoming increasingly important. The common culture being that of business.

[icwhatudo]

Just saw the Burlington Coat factory ad on FOX proclaiming “Now that the holidays are over...” lol.

[LiteKeeper]

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