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Hillary Clinton Avoids Question on Abortion and Social Security Problems [Obama doesn't recall]
LifeNews.com ^ | December 20, 2007 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 12/27/2007 6:16:11 PM PST by SJackson

Des Moines, IA (LifeNews.com) -- Campaigning in Iowa with just two weeks to go before the first presidential battles begin, pro-abortion Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton largely avoided a question of how abortion is hurting social security. A woman in the audience said abortion is going to make it harder to keep the system afloat.

Joanne Duncalf, a 61-year-old from Clarion, Iowa, asked the kind of question that normally doesn't come up at a Clinton campaign stop.

Duncalf asked Clinton her thoughts on how to fix Social Security so the program for seniors will be around when her children are ready to retire.

According to a Des Moines Register report, she followed up with a second question and explained that, if abortion hadn't been responsible for killing 50 million Americans, the system may be more solvent than it is now with more people in the workforce contributing to it.

"I'm very disappointed," Duncalf said, that "we're not doing more to save those babies."

Clinton initially avoided the question by making a comment on the large red hat Duncalf wore. She eventually got to the abortion aspect of the question but simply said she has worked to keep abortion "safe, legal, rare."

The New York senator said there is time to fix Social Security and blamed Republican presidential candidates for scaring voters by saying it has problems.

The question of abortion and its adverse impact on the Social Security system is one that doesn't get much attention.

Former U.S. Senator Zell Miller spoke about the impact and in March at a fundraiser for a Georgia pregnancy center.

"If those 45 million children had lived, today they would be defending our country, they would be filling our jobs, they would be paying into Social Security," he asserted.

Researchers agree with the notion that taking millions of Americans out of the workforce is causing problems.

Steven Mosher, president of the Population Research Institute said last year that “When you look at the projections that show our population aging rapidly over the next few decades, when you see our economy and government programs such as Social Security risking bankruptcy, you can see that the United States’ annual 0.9% population growth rate is not enough."

Duncalf said Clinton's response, however poor, was better than the one Democratic candidate Barack Obama gave her when she asked her question of him.

She told the Register about his answer: "He just pointed his finger like this and said, "That. Is. An abortion question.' If he can't handle stress like that, he can't be president."

Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor told the newspaper he doesn't recall the question or Obama's reaction and said the candidate has addressed abortion questions in numerous forums.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; babyboomers; clinton2008; hillaryclinton; macacamoment; nothirdterm; prodeath; socialsecurity

1 posted on 12/27/2007 6:16:16 PM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson

Simple, babies of illegal immigrants will make up the difference since they’ll be using the same records.


2 posted on 12/27/2007 6:17:41 PM PST by glorgau
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To: SJackson

New tagline for awhile


3 posted on 12/27/2007 6:18:20 PM PST by SJackson (If 45 million children had lived, they'd be defending America, filling jobs, paying SS-Z. Miller)
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To: SJackson
and blamed Republican presidential candidates for scaring voters by saying it (SS) has problems.

Bbbbwwwwaaahhhhhhhhhh!

4 posted on 12/27/2007 6:22:37 PM PST by Free State Four
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To: Free State Four
and blamed Republican presidential candidates for scaring voters who have been living under a rock for the last four decades by saying it (SS) has problems.

There, fixed it.
5 posted on 12/27/2007 6:42:12 PM PST by RepublitarianRoger2
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To: SJackson

“safe, legal, rare.”

Safe???

Abortion is harmful to both the mother and the child.

Legal?

Might be legal but its not moral.

Rare???

Obviously with 50 Million aborted, Abortion is not rare.

I can just imagine Hitler excusing concentration camps by stating that they are Safe, Legal and Rare.


6 posted on 12/27/2007 6:56:31 PM PST by proudpapa (Vote for Uncle Fred!)
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To: SJackson
She eventually got to the abortion aspect of the question but simply said she has worked to keep abortion "safe, legal, rare."

Someone needs to say to say to her "We understand about safe and legal, now please tell us what you have done to make abortion 'rare.' "

7 posted on 12/27/2007 7:05:43 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired of all the politics in politics.)
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To: SJackson
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8 posted on 12/27/2007 7:05:47 PM PST by -=SoylentSquirrel=- (I'm really made of people!)
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To: proudpapa

“I can just imagine Hitler excusing concentration camps by stating that they are Safe, Legal and Rare.”

Probably one of the most effective analogies to expose abortion for what it is that that I have heard.


9 posted on 12/27/2007 7:09:29 PM PST by motoman
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To: proudpapa

Rare???

Obviously with 50 Million aborted, Abortion is not rare.

I can just imagine Hitler excusing concentration camps by stating that they are Safe, Legal and Rare.


That Number excludes the 13% of Cases of Oral Contraception acting as an Abortafacient..


10 posted on 12/27/2007 7:15:43 PM PST by philly-d-kidder ( sOUTH OF iRAQ eAST oF sAUIDI wEST OF iRAN AND nORTH OF dUBAI...kuwait)
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To: SJackson

wouldn’t 50 million additional people in SS also have 50 million more drwwing from it ? wouldn’t we eventually get to the same place we are today ?


11 posted on 12/27/2007 7:16:32 PM PST by stylin19a
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To: little jeremiah

pro-life ping


12 posted on 12/27/2007 7:18:25 PM PST by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch (If MY people who are called by MY name -- the ball's in our court, folks.)
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To: SJackson
The New York senator said there is time to fix Social Security and blamed Republican presidential candidates for scaring voters by saying it has problems.

This is a transcription by the reporter of Clinton's comments (would have been nice to have the words Clinton actually said; must have been worse) but presuming it is accurate, Clinton makes a claim ("...there is time to fix Social Security") and then, in the same sentence, contradicts her claim ("...blamed Republican presidential candidates for scaring voters by saying it has problems")

Just par for Hillary.

13 posted on 12/27/2007 7:19:49 PM PST by torchthemummy (“America Will Not Reject Abortion Until America Sees Abortion” -Father Frank Pavone)
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To: stylin19a
wouldn’t 50 million additional people in SS also have 50 million more drwwing from it ? wouldn’t we eventually get to the same place we are today ?

Not until the Chelsea administration. These people will never go away.

14 posted on 12/27/2007 7:21:11 PM PST by SJackson (If 45 million children had lived, they'd be defending America, filling jobs, paying SS-Z. Miller)
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To: SJackson

Hey Hill Baby...”You can run but you cannot hide”


15 posted on 12/27/2007 7:42:44 PM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: SJackson

Think of the bright side. By the time my generation is ready to retire social security will be long gone but euthanasia will be routine.


16 posted on 12/27/2007 7:51:07 PM PST by sinanju
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To: SJackson

Does that Bag-o-Rags ever answer a question in a straight-forward manner?


17 posted on 12/27/2007 8:01:25 PM PST by pankot
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To: SJackson
Clinton initially avoided the question by making a comment on the large red hat Duncalf wore.

They really are smoking crack, aren't they?

18 posted on 12/27/2007 8:08:21 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (whose spirit is hillary channelling these days?)
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To: SJackson

Hillary will change her position on abortion in time. The power of the pro life movement can influence even the staunchest opponent. Only a matter of time.


19 posted on 12/27/2007 8:20:56 PM PST by rjp2005 (Lord have mercy on us)
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To: SJackson
Didn't I read somewhere about how bad it was to concentrate on what woman candidates wear?

Clinton initially avoided the question by making a comment on the large red hat Duncalf wore.

Pant Suit Hill leading by example.

20 posted on 12/27/2007 8:30:52 PM PST by DManA
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To: RepublitarianRoger2
for scaring voters who have been living under a rock for the last four decades by saying it (SS) has problems. There, fixed it.

Thank you. I remember my father telling me in the 60's that Social Security was going to collapse into itself. It was a Ponzi scheme that could not support itself.

I mentioned this in passing (during the 90's) to my BIL, who is an ivy league trained lawyer, as is my husband, as was their father who was also a judge. This BIL went to a CPA he trusted, asked him about my claim , and came back to me and announced to me that I was out of my mind. He hasn't mentioned it since.

21 posted on 12/27/2007 8:34:43 PM PST by Free State Four
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To: DManA

Hillary the Hippo beast may still be protected by the MSM, but not enough to survive what is coming!


22 posted on 12/27/2007 8:48:07 PM PST by Stayfree (*************************FredD.ThompsonforPresident.com)
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To: Free State Four
My finance guy told me I would have had over TWO MILLION DOLLARS at age 66 if all my SS and Medicare money, (including my employer’s match), was invested in a good quality balanced fund all these years.
I am currently in remission from Leukemia, and my life expectancy is thought to be age 62 to 67.
Ponzi scheme seems so inadequate to describe the wholesale unconstitutional theft that the United States Government has condoned all these years.
And let’s not forget that we all pay income taxes on the 7% payroll tax stolen from us.
23 posted on 12/27/2007 8:57:48 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Guns don't kill people, gun free zones kill people)
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To: proudpapa
Safe, legal and rare...

Probably one of the stupidest positions and least remarked upon. Why should abortion be rare, if there is nothing wrong with it? Why should it be rare if it is a legal and important and normal medical procedure? Do we ask that tooth extractions be rare? Do we require safe, legal and rare heart transplants?

We currently have relatively rare psychiatric treatment, but HILLARY! is trying to require inclusion of that treatment on all insurance. Why is abortion the only medical procedure the far, far left requests to be rare? Because as usual, they are lying. They know if folks think about an abortion, they will find it abhorrent and grisly. As a routine medical procedure it is generally unnecessary and cruel. So the far, insane left lies and requests rarity of its most sacred sacrament.

24 posted on 12/28/2007 6:57:49 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze
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To: Stayfree

Rule one in the new chickafied America - women can change the rules at any time (but not men).


25 posted on 12/28/2007 8:35:06 AM PST by DManA
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To: Kickass Conservative

Don’t look back. That way lies madness.


26 posted on 12/28/2007 8:35:51 AM PST by DManA
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To: SJackson

If an abortion is like a tooth cleaning, why keep them “rare”? What is the dirty little secret?


27 posted on 12/28/2007 9:30:32 AM PST by weegee (If Bill Clinton can sit in on Hillary's Cabinet Meetings then GWBush should ask to get to sit in too)
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To: proudpapa

I agree. 3,000 dead a day is not rare.


28 posted on 12/28/2007 9:32:44 AM PST by weegee (If Bill Clinton can sit in on Hillary's Cabinet Meetings then GWBush should ask to get to sit in too)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Another way to look at it.

While we’d like to see more preventative care and lifestyle changes to avoid heart surgery, we do want to see heart surgery rarely needed.

No one says that birth control needs to be “safe, legal, and RARE”. Abortion is largely used AS birth control but it snuffs out a growing life, unlike other methods of birth control. And we are told that it is no one’s bidness how someone got pregnant but the nannystate IS interested in seeing that we pay more if we are going to eat unhealthy food or smoke.


29 posted on 12/28/2007 9:36:58 AM PST by weegee (If Bill Clinton can sit in on Hillary's Cabinet Meetings then GWBush should ask to get to sit in too)
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To: Kickass Conservative

The federal employees do NOT participate in the Social Security ripoff scheme. They should be under the SAME umbrella. No two-tier system.


30 posted on 12/28/2007 9:38:13 AM PST by weegee (If Bill Clinton can sit in on Hillary's Cabinet Meetings then GWBush should ask to get to sit in too)
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To: DManA
Rule one in the new chickafied America - women can change the rules at any time (but not men).

I've got news for you friend....its been that way since Eve!

31 posted on 12/28/2007 10:36:35 AM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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