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Big break for Haditha defense: key Marine witness granted immunity
Defend Our Marines ^ | December 28, 2007 | Nathaniel R. Helms

Posted on 12/28/2007 7:15:49 AM PST by RedRover

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Nat Helms is a Contributing Editor to Defend Our Marines. He is a Vietnam veteran, former police officer, war correspondent, and, most recently, author of My Men Are My Heroes: The Brad Kasal Story (Meredith Books, 2007).

1 posted on 12/28/2007 7:15:52 AM PST by RedRover
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2 posted on 12/28/2007 7:21:40 AM PST by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: RedRover

I am cheering for Salinas’ loyalty. I still have divided caution, but this sounds very hopeful.


3 posted on 12/28/2007 7:32:26 AM PST by lilycicero (At least Nat isn't afraid to post his photo, like some people.)
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To: RedRover; Girlene; brityank; jazusamo; bigheadfred

Nat Helms retelling of the Haditha story, updated from the normal pablum written by the media at the time of the original Haditha charges, is refreshing. I places everything in proper context.

It talks about the insurgents, the presence of Al Qaeda, the firefight, the storming of buildings that were hostile.

It should be the standard for truth in reporting now that so much information has come out in the Article 32 hearings.

Many of our Marines are still in serious jeopardy, and they deserve our support as we head down the homestretch.

Do we have any projections on Court Martial dates? It’s obvious that “speedy trial” isn’t in anyone’s handbook anymore.


4 posted on 12/28/2007 7:42:00 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain! True Supporters of Our Troops Support the Necessity of their Sacrifice!)
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To: RedRover

Good news. It’s about time. From various reporting it appeared that Sgt. Salinas was a key witness to most of the events that occurred that day. It made no sense that Sgt. Salinas was not granted immunity for the Article 32’s if their purpose was to get to the truth. Good for Lt. Gen. Helland for granting him immunity for LCpl Tatum’s upcoming trial.


5 posted on 12/28/2007 7:44:20 AM PST by Girlene
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I’m clearly on the side of the defense lawyer that wants immunity for Chessani. Chessani has clearly done nothing wrong and is charged only for political expediency.

If he were permitted to speak freely, and with permission to include classified information, then I’m certain that all other defendants would have charges dismissed.


6 posted on 12/28/2007 7:50:16 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain! True Supporters of Our Troops Support the Necessity of their Sacrifice!)
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To: RedRover

All those involved in pushing this case ought to be tried for treason.


7 posted on 12/28/2007 8:03:10 AM PST by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: xzins
If he [Lt. Col. Chessani] were permitted to speak freely, and with permission to include classified information, then I’m certain that all other defendants would have charges dismissed.

I'm not sure Lt. Col. Chessani could shed much light on the specifics that happened early that morning in that little neighborhood since he was not there on the ground. He could provide more insight as to the overall activity occurring throughout Haditha that day.

As the article noted, Granting Chessani immunity would effectively eliminate him as a defendant. The prosecution/government doesn't seem to have any interest in doing that.

I just hope someone finally testifies about the "guy in all black running along the ridgeline". I'm assuming noone has testified about that action since noone was charged with his death. However, since he was dressed in all black and running away from the area of the first two houses, I have been surprised that more wasn't made of his presence. Who was this guy?
8 posted on 12/28/2007 8:13:27 AM PST by Girlene
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This is encouraging news and it is refreshing that Nat Helms reports on the story without reflecting the bias that the MSN clearly has when it comes to this incident. He has done his homework with all his articles and tells it like it is, my hat goes off to him.


9 posted on 12/28/2007 8:25:44 AM PST by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: Girlene; brityank

The man in black....???

Why, that’s ALWAYS been

Johnny Cash.

:>)

(Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, Girlene!)


10 posted on 12/28/2007 8:26:07 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain! True Supporters of Our Troops Support the Necessity of their Sacrifice!)
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To: RedRover

Now THIS is good news to start the New Year. Thanks for the ping Red and Happy New Year!


11 posted on 12/28/2007 8:27:00 AM PST by Chickenhawk Warmonger (The Media Lied & Soldiers Died)
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To: All

PS

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL!!! :-)


12 posted on 12/28/2007 8:29:04 AM PST by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: xzins
The man in black....??? Why, that’s ALWAYS been Johnny Cash.

Thanks, xzins. LOL - mystery solved, finally. A Merry Christmas and Happy New Year back at you, xzins.
13 posted on 12/28/2007 8:31:11 AM PST by Girlene
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During the ensuing firefight, the squad killed eight insurgents and 15 civilians

first time I can remember that anybody wrote this right.
14 posted on 12/28/2007 8:38:37 AM PST by stylin19a
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Exactly. Bullseye to both you and Jaz.

Anyone writing about Haditha from henceforth should be required to have a course with Nat Helms before they’re allowed to publish.


15 posted on 12/28/2007 8:48:15 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain! True Supporters of Our Troops Support the Necessity of their Sacrifice!)
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To: RedRover
The NPR story claimed one of its reporters had obtained the names of the suspects from an anonymous Department of Defense source.

That DOD source must have had an awful lot of time on their hands to visit multiple media sources in a desperate attempt to destroy these Marine's lives. We now know that this source was disseminating false information, to boot.

It is way past time an investigation into the DOD to find this mole commenced, and time to put SECNAV Winter in front of a senate panel under oath to see how much dirt - or bilge goo as it were - he has under his fingernails.

It'd be nice to see the media update their stories to reflect the truths so eloquently portrayed by Nat Helms, but I'm not holding my breath waiting, especially after that sickening rant by the NCT against LCpl Delano Holmes - the ONLY media source that used to be somewhat on the level. I wonder how Mark Walker feels about his colleagues right about now. This is encouraging news, though. It appears that Lt. Gen. Helland may be more interested in discovering what really happened than many of his peers.

I would think that Sgt. Salinas's testimony concerning the taxi full of "students" could have cleared up many misconceptions over a year ago, and affected the previous Article 32s, as it was one of the initial and pivotal events in this case, one that the media & NCIS used to paint the whole squad as blood thirsty and trigger happy.

I'm heading north till next week to work on the house, thanks for the ping.

16 posted on 12/28/2007 8:54:19 AM PST by 4woodenboats (DefendOurMarines.com)
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It’s obvious that “speedy trial” isn’t in anyone’s handbook anymore.

I was involved in the Courts Martial of one of my troops, and although the right to a speedy trail is guaranteed by the US Constitution, the defendant on advice from their lawyer can waive that right. This is usually done when the defense attorney feels they need more time to prepare an adequate defense, gather more testimony/statements from witnesses, or have any evidence reviewed by their own experts. If the accused does not waive that right, the Courts Martial must convene within 120 days after being charge with a crime (Article 32 Hearing).

-Traveler

17 posted on 12/28/2007 8:59:21 AM PST by Traveler59 (Truth is a journey, not a destination.)
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Ping


18 posted on 12/28/2007 8:59:43 AM PST by freema
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To: 4woodenboats; Girlene; RedRover; Brian Rooney; Ironmajor
On November 21, 2006 a National Public Radio "Morning Edition" broadcast named Salinas as one of five enlisted Marines that would be charged with war crimes for his actions at Haditha. The NPR story claimed one of its reporters had obtained the names of the suspects from an anonymous Department of Defense source.

Excellent post, 4WB.

Additionally, this should be a piece of any attempt to prove unlawful command influence by someone in the chain of command.

Unlawful command influence can be an issue even if one can prove only an "appearance" of unlawful influence.

One need not get NPR's "sources," if they choose to play hardball and hide behind "freedom of the press." One only needs to get them on the stand to affirm that they were told this things by actual, DoD sources.

This would be convincing testimony that give the "appearance" of malfeasance.

To refute it, the DoD would then have to pony up the names of their people who were doing the leaking. Even then, one could look at the ties between that person and the Haditha troops' chain of command.

As Marines, the direct Chain of Command would go through the Marine Corps Commandant, the SecNav, the SecDef, and the Pres.

19 posted on 12/28/2007 9:07:16 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain! True Supporters of Our Troops Support the Necessity of their Sacrifice!)
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To: Traveler59

Thanks, Traveler. Good info.

I stand corrected.


20 posted on 12/28/2007 9:10:19 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain! True Supporters of Our Troops Support the Necessity of their Sacrifice!)
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