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David Whitehouse: Has global warming stopped?
New Statesman ^ | 19 December 2007 | David Whitehouse

Posted on 12/28/2007 12:40:59 PM PST by neverdem

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To: i_dont_chat

We set about vacuuming the air in 1970 and have now succeeded in removing almost 98% of the pollutants then commonly discharged on a daily basis; all that while, CO2 continued to build up unabated until now we see the world either through a glass less darkly or so clearly, we don’t know what to make of it.

The last ten years have seen an exponential increase in China and, to some extent, India, the two most populous emerging industrial powers.

Could it be that they are unintentionally or carelessly adding back in the aerosols that work to mitigate warming?


101 posted on 12/29/2007 2:49:22 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: cogitator
A few inaccurate stations doesn't change the picture.

It is far more than a few. The image below is from Watt's survey of US weather stations. 77% of them have an error in excess of 1 degree C.

Sorry, try again.

102 posted on 12/29/2007 4:40:42 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: devolve

Bump!


103 posted on 12/29/2007 8:59:47 PM PST by potlatch ("Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance!")
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To: devolve

Lol, I saved that Time gif the minute I saw it, scrolled down and you already had posted it!


104 posted on 12/29/2007 9:01:42 PM PST by potlatch ("Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance!")
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To: Straight Vermonter
Surface stations

My last response on this subject. Believe what you need to believe, whether or not it's correct.

105 posted on 12/30/2007 6:08:12 AM PST by cogitator
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To: M. Dodge Thomas

The paper you cite concentrates on the period from 1800-present. However it still doesn’t dispute the fact that the “hockey stick” has magically made the Medieval Warm Period disappear.

Read this article to see why it went away:
http://www.climatechangeissues.com/files/PDF/conf05mckitrick.pdf

(hint: it went away because it was inconvenient. The money quote: “A major person working in the area of climate change and global warming sent me an astonishing email that said ‘We have to get rid of the Medieval Warm Period.’”)


106 posted on 12/31/2007 7:34:00 AM PST by kidd
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To: cogitator
Believe what you need to believe, whether or not it's correct.

Indeed, you do.

107 posted on 12/31/2007 7:37:01 AM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: kidd
Medieval Warm Period

Medieval Warm Period "MWP"

This last is offered with trepidation, because it gets into the "Hockey Stick" controversy. I offer it because of the references and brief summary on pages 17-22, and only that.

Examining the Hockey Stick Controversy (PDF)

Doesn't sound like it disappeared; it's more like it became less distinct. One of the clearest problems is the persistence in the public mind and on skeptical Web sites of the 1990 IPCC "cartoon" (page 14), which was not quantitative and not even apparently based on any actual data analysis (more of a summary of existing anecdotal knowledge).

108 posted on 12/31/2007 8:48:57 AM PST by cogitator
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To: Defendingliberty; WL-law; Normandy

~~AGW ™ ping~~


109 posted on 01/01/2008 9:57:33 PM PST by steelyourfaith
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