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1 posted on 12/29/2007 2:32:10 PM PST by big'ol_freeper
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Wow. It is well worth reading the entire column.
Romney is such a weasel....


2 posted on 12/29/2007 2:38:58 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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Earlier today somebody attacked me because I posted an endorsement that actually happened on December 13, 2007.

At least I didn’t go all the way back to 2004 to find something to post.

But at least it doesn’t appear that this was posted before :-)


3 posted on 12/29/2007 2:39:48 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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Sorry, but this is pretty lame reporting. I remember clearly that Romney fought this thing, and fought hard against it. It was the Supreme court of Massachusetts that forced this issue on everyone, and Romney appeared to fight it hard and well.
5 posted on 12/29/2007 2:48:01 PM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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Anybody want to take bets AGAINST Father Robert Carr being a registered Democrat and a life long, “social and economic justice,” liberal?


11 posted on 12/29/2007 2:59:56 PM PST by Beckwith (Dhimmicrats and the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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This priest wrote several other articles at around the same time, in which he also blames other Massachusetts officials, not just Romney:

“Finally, may I add that to this day no candidate or elected politician from any party has denounced the actions of the protesters against innocent Catholic parishioners in and out of the Cathedral of the Holy Cross from 2002-2004.”

http://www.catholic.org/featured/headline.php?ID=919

“What did the elected officials say about all this? They said nothing. The Mayor said nothing, The Governor said nothing; the Senators and Representatives said nothing; they all said nothing.”

http://www.catholic.org/featured/headline.php?ID=554


19 posted on 12/29/2007 3:22:12 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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"Silencing the Church and bringing down Cardinal Law were essential to make those agendas realities."

So, Father Carr has concluded that Mitt not stepping in to rescue Cardinal Law from the pedophile priest scandal (in a church that was not Mitt's!) is some sort of "plot" to foist liberalism on Massachusetts?

Sorry, not buying it. If Cardinal Law had wanted to remain a voice for morality in Massachusetts, it wasn't Romney's job to shore him up. Sounds like Father Carr reads too many conspiracy novels!

21 posted on 12/29/2007 3:40:17 PM PST by hunter112 (Hillary Clinton - America’s Ex-Wife®)
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I don't understand all of this. What was illegal about the 12 men kissing in church (not that I approve)? John Geoghan's murderer was and is in jail as a lifer last I knew. I didn't condone that either, despicable as I thought the behavior was that sent him to jail. So many others got off scot free because of the statute of limitations. Should those be sent to jail who let him in with the rest of the prison population?

There was a backlash against catholics at that time because of the sex abuse scandals. What part was persecution and what part was righteous anger?

I suppose there is no love lost between Mormons and Catholics, same with Baptists and Catholics AS A WHOLE, so would it be better if I support catholic Rudy should-be-denied-communion Giuliani or what?

The catholics vote more Dem anyway; nothing is going to change that regardless of what the pope says. Some have crossed over because of the life issues and some have worked themselves up the food chain through their own efforts to be in higher income brackets, good for them (sincerely).

I don't know what the protocols are when a governor should or should not go to a bishop's installation mass. If it was a deliberate snub, then it wasn't very nice, but if he just didn't want to break away from his vacation, isn't that being a little petty?

I would like to know which candidate the priest here would endorse. Then maybe I understand it a little more.

22 posted on 12/29/2007 3:40:55 PM PST by Aliska
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The actual facts:

Rebut the Notion that Gov. Romney’s Inaction Allowed Same-Sex Marriage to Become Law in Massachusetts

http://www.freerepublic.com/~unmarkedpackage/#DOM
IssueSource.org is a website co-produced by MassINC and The State House News Service and is a project of MassINC’s Civic Renewal Initiative. It is a non-partisan, not-for-profit, free public service.
IssueSource.org has a remarkably detailed chronological journal of the legal actions and legislative events in Massachusetts regarding same-sex marriage following the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court (SJC) ruling in Goodridge v. Dept. of Public Health on Nov. 18, 2003 (Issue: Gay Marriage: Prior to May 17, 2004). The journal records in great detail the actions taken by people both for and against the same-sex marriage court ruling up to the date the ruling became law on May 17, 2004 making same-sex marriage legal in Massachusetts.

The journal is a very long read with several examples where Governor Romney opposed the ruling and attempted to delay the implementation with statements and directives; actions that were openly defied by others at times. However, focus on the events after March 29, 2004 when the constitutional convention in Massachusetts approved an amendment to ban gay marriage. Note the legal action Gov. Romney initiated immediately after March 29, 2004 to prevent the SJC’s Goodridge ruling from becoming law on May 17, 2004. More importantly, note that Gov. Romney’s efforts were thwarted because the Democrat Attorney General Tom Reilly and Senate President Robert Travaglini refused to cooperate and blocked the required legislative action.

Excerpts from the journal of events are presented below:

“On Mar. 29, the Legislature, meeting in constitutional convention, approved the constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage and provide for civil unions. The measure must still be approved a second time, during the 2005-06 session of the Legislature, in order to be placed on the November 2006 ballot for ratification by voters.

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“Immediately after the vote, Romney called on AG Reilly to go before the SJC to halt the start of gay marriages on May 17, but Reilly quickly responded that he would not seek the delay, arguing that the SJC’s two rulings, in November and February, had made it clear that the court would tolerate nothing less than marriage for same-sex couples. A week earlier, on Mar. 22, Travaglini told the State House News Service that any attempt by Romney to halt the issuance of same-sex marriage licenses on the SJC’s ordered timetable would probably fail. “It is my understanding that no matter what legislative action we take, we cannot affect the issuance of licenses come the 17th of May. If the governor believes that he has the capacity or the authority to stop the issuance of licenses, then that’s a personal political decision that he can make; I don’t necessarily agree.”

-—— snip -——

Office of Gov. Mitt Romney, “Romney Files Emergency Bill to Seek Goodridge Decision Stay,” Press Release, 4/15/2004

“Romney announced April 15 that he would seek emergency legislation to allow him to appoint a special counsel to ask the Supreme Judicial Court for a 2 1/2 year delay of its gay marriage ruling set to take effect May 17. Romney’s plan was to bypass AG Reilly—who refused to name a special counsel in March—and name his own special counsel, retired SJC Justice Joseph Nolan. Romney said the legislation would allow him to “protect the integrity of the Constitutional process” and return the decision on gay marriage to voters. “We believe the people have the right to have their position heard and that as the governor, I should have right to have my position heard. Look, people that don’t have any income are entitled to representation. Everyone in the Commonwealth is entitled to representation. But somehow as governor of the Commonwealth, it’s deemed that I can’t represent my view before the courts—I think that’s a mistake,” said Romney.

“State House News Service reported April 22 that Romney’s special counsel bill was “languishing” on Beacon Hill. The main obstacle was the Senate, which failed to admit the bill in its last two sessions. Senate President Robert Travaglini dismissed the legislation when it was announced and said the governor was only trying to push his “political agenda.” If the bill was not admitted, then there would not be a joint committee public hearing on it.

“Romney said April 21 that he would not file a supportive brief or otherwise get involved in a petition brought by the Catholic Action League of Massachusetts. The League was attempting to persuade the Supreme Judicial Court to delay the start of gay marriages until November 2006, when voters could vote on the issue. Romney said he preferred to make the case for delay himself. On April 23, Romney renewed his call for the Legislature to grant him the authority to appoint a special counsel so he could launch his own effort to persuade the court to delay gay marriages from taking effect May 17. “I call on both branches of the Legislature, particularly the Senate. . .to give me the opportunity to preserve the choice of the definition of marriage to the citizens and make sure that the hard work the Legislature went through to pass this amendment to allow the citizens to have a voice is worth something,” Romney told reporters at a press conference.

http://www.freerepublic.com/~unmarkedpackage/#DOM


36 posted on 12/29/2007 7:00:23 PM PST by TheLion
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