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VetsCoR is Re-organizing. Got Input?
Veterans for Constitutional Restoration (VetsCoR) ^ | 12/30/07 | A Navy Vet

Posted on 12/30/2007 1:52:33 AM PST by A Navy Vet

VetsCoR is in the process of re-organizing and re-directing its focus.

Below is a draft of our new Home page text. We would like to invite all the Patriots of Free Republic to give VetsCoR their input. Please feel free to condense, expand, eliminate, and/or modify as you think it should read.

VetsCoR Home page with Lorraine cemetery photo that includes the below.

LEST WE FORGET:
Lorraine American Cemetery & Memorial, Saint Avold, France

HERE WE AND ALL WHO SHALL HEREAFTER LIVE IN FREEDOM WILL BE REMINDED THAT TO THESE MEN AND THEIR COMRADES WE OWE A DEBT TO BE PAID

WITH GRATEFUL REMEMBRANCE OF THEIR SACRIFICE AND WITH HIGH RESOLVE THAT THE CAUSE FOR WHICH THEY DIED SHALL LIVE

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The Oath to support and defend the United States Constitution by all our brave Military Service men and women was essentially a blank check, made payable to the citizens of America, for an amount requiring their sacrifice, blood, and up to including their lives.

Those checks have been cashed many many times and the proceeds deposited in the above headstones in foreign lands and within dozens of US National Cemeteries.

Lest We Forget, those souls were our sons and daughters; they were our fathers and mothers; they were our brothers and sisters. They are all family and friends who have sacrificed, bled, and died in the past and continue to do so for country and loved ones.

Veterans for Constitutional Restoration (VetsCoR) is determined to honor those dedicated Americans and their Oaths by restoring the Constitution to its original intent as our Founding Fathers believed to be the right path a nation should follow.

Those interred forever in the above hollowed grounds at Lorraine and at home, would be saddened to see how often their dedication to that Oath has often been for naught. Power hungry politicians and political parties have so misused and abused our Constitution for their own personal and political gain, it’s become increasingly clear they have lost sight of the wondrous vision our Founding Fathers believed in; fought for; and died for; – a free non-intrusive nation of limited government.

We, who believe in that “vision”, are honor bound to take up the battle where our fallen Military heroes have left off. We owe it to their memory and our own future to return our government to the basic principles that so many sacrificed for and made our Nation an example that that so many peoples of the World yearn for.

It can be done. Our heritage demands it. Join us.

___________________________________________________________________________

We Submit a Call to Action to All Patriots

This is where we can start.

We need to return the Peoples' authority to the States above all else.

THE REPEAL OF THE 17th AMENDEMENT


TOPICS:
KEYWORDS: activism; constitution; vetscor

1 posted on 12/30/2007 1:52:36 AM PST by A Navy Vet
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To: A Navy Vet
I'm not exactly certain what the organization's political agenda is, other than what is explicitely atated in the name of the organization.

It is my personal belief endeavour to that end would be most profitable should it succeed.

The question remains: should the endeavor fail is the endeavor "worthy"? If I may be so bold to suggest, in a "worst case" scenario, to vote U.S. Constitution Party. I posit that the endeavor itself is worthy regardless of its success.

2 posted on 12/30/2007 2:07:15 AM PST by raygun ("It is wrong always, everywhere, and for anyone to believe anything upon insufficient evidence")
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To: A Navy Vet; Neil E. Wright; Jim Robinson; All
Please give us input on the subject matter; the phrasing; the punctuation; the spelling; etc.

VetsCoR is part of your Free Republic community, and we would appreciate any suggestions that will benefit this new direction and effort.

Also, if you are interested in supporting VetsCoR, please contact the following after January 13, 2007. Thank you.

Neil E. Wright
VetsCoR
P.O. Box 913
Ehrenberg, AZ 85334-0913

Phone: 800-294-4895

3 posted on 12/30/2007 2:32:16 AM PST by A Navy Vet (In perpetuum sacramentum (An Oath is Forever))
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To: A Navy Vet

After review, and comprehension that this organization is NOT advocating repeal of the 19th ammendment, and comprehending fully what the 17th ammendment entails, I fully throw in.


4 posted on 12/30/2007 2:35:22 AM PST by raygun ("It is wrong always, everywhere, and for anyone to believe anything upon insufficient evidence")
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To: raygun
"I'm not exactly certain what the organization's political agenda is, other than what is explicitely atated in the name of the organization."

We understand your concern. Veterans for Constitutional Restoration (VetsCoR) is an established non-profit, non-partisan, tax-exempt 501(c)(19) educational and public benefit organization.

Unfortunately, since we are re-vamping our web site, there is no current access to our Incorporation charter and By-laws as they were on the previous site. They will be re-posted on the new site. Jim Robinson, who owns and operates this forum is a Director on the Board of VetsCoR. He can verify our bona-fides.

"The question remains: should the endeavor fail is the endeavor "worthy"? If I may be so bold to suggest, in a "worst case" scenario, to vote U.S. Constitution Party. I posit that the endeavor itself is worthy regardless of its success."

Thank you for your input. However, as stated above, VetsCoR is a non-partisan public benefit organization. We support no political party nor any individual politician. While members may have their own individual political persuasions, VetsCoR's mission is to reverse the largess of the Federal government and to support our Active/Reserve-military and Veterans.

If you agree with our "mission", do you have any input for our new web site text above?

5 posted on 12/30/2007 2:57:12 AM PST by A Navy Vet (In perpetuum sacramentum (An Oath is Forever))
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To: raygun
"After review, and comprehension that this organization is NOT advocating repeal of the 19th ammendment, and comprehending fully what the 17th ammendment entails, I fully throw in."

VetsCoR would never ever consider repealing Amendment XIX. It is a just and righteous Amendment that was long over-due.

So, when you say "I fully throw in", can we count on you to work towards repealing the 17th Amendment and other non-Constitutional issues? Or, at least give us your input about wording for our new efforts as requested above?

Thank you and have a Very Happy New Year.

6 posted on 12/30/2007 3:21:38 AM PST by A Navy Vet (In perpetuum sacramentum (An Oath is Forever))
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To: A Navy Vet

I “throw in” with respct to my belief that the 17th amendment is an abomination to the Republic.

That means that I’m one of you guys...

Its great to see that there’s an “organization” that feels as I do.

I’m scared to have my beliefs distorted. But whatever...


7 posted on 12/30/2007 3:43:20 AM PST by raygun ("It is wrong always, everywhere, and for anyone to believe anything upon insufficient evidence")
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To: raygun

Since the 17th never passed, all we need is the SC to declare it void. Madison, in his wisdom, said the following “no state, without its consent, can be deprived of its sufferage in the Senate” since several states did not consent to the 17th they were deprived of their sufferage in the Senate. The fraudulent passage of the 17th destroyed the republic. You have to remember the “state” referred to is a real entity not the “mob” of the state. We currently elect Senators and Reps by mob vote.


8 posted on 12/30/2007 4:10:57 AM PST by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

What you talkin’ ‘bout Willis?

The 17th passed.

I’m against the 17th, but I’m not in with a bunch of fools.

Frankly, if the War of Aggression didn’t, then the 17th ammedment did.

How can onw defend what the “South” was fighting for?

How is it any different today?


9 posted on 12/30/2007 4:25:55 AM PST by raygun ("It is wrong always, everywhere, and for anyone to believe anything upon insufficient evidence")
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To: A Navy Vet

Looks great buddy. I sent you some grammar clean up via freepmail.

I like the new look, much sharper than the old. Good work.


10 posted on 12/30/2007 7:44:45 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul. WWPD (what would Patton do))
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To: raygun

I just explained why it did not pass. The 17th passage was fraudulent.


11 posted on 12/30/2007 8:30:09 AM PST by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: snippy_about_it
Thank you. That's why I posted the scribe. I'm not the best at phrasing, grammar, nor punctuation.

More importantely, we are looking for content for the home page text. The editing can be worked out later. But again, thank you for pointing out the errors. Got input?...for phrasing?

12 posted on 01/01/2008 4:05:47 AM PST by A Navy Vet (In perpetuum sacramentum (An Oath is Forever))
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat
"Since the 17th never passed, all we need is the SC to declare it void. Madison, in his wisdom, said the following “no state, without its consent, can be deprived of its sufferage in the Senate” since several states did not consent to the 17th they were deprived of their sufferage in the Senate. The fraudulent passage of the 17th destroyed the republic. You have to remember the “state” referred to is a real entity not the “mob” of the state. We currently elect Senators and Reps by mob vote."

This is good stuff. May we borrow some of your phrasing?

13 posted on 01/01/2008 4:09:57 AM PST by A Navy Vet (In perpetuum sacramentum (An Oath is Forever))
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To: A Navy Vet

Of course.


14 posted on 01/01/2008 4:21:13 AM PST by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat
" We currently elect Senators and Reps by mob vote."

Yes. It took me quite a few converstations to understand the benefit of the States appointing their own Congressional Senators versus "mob" electing said Senators. It's a complex problem for Joe-Six-Pack, but an issue that has been long ignored.

Seems if a Congressional Convention convenes and proclaims a new law of the land, it should be written in stone. As we know, the 18th Amendment (alcohol prohibition) was repealed by the 21st Amendment. So stone is not as "diamond" hard as some think.

However, I have much concern if the US held a Constitutional Convention in this day. I imagine the liberal worst resulting from it. There is another path to change such statuates.

15 posted on 01/01/2008 4:30:33 AM PST by A Navy Vet (In perpetuum sacramentum (An Oath is Forever))
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat
"We currently elect Senators and Reps by mob vote."

BTW, the entire purpose of the House of Representives was to be voted by the "mob", so as to counter the Senate as witnessed by Grecian/Roman democracies.

So, I have no problem with the House. It's the Senate I believe has been usurped by Amendment.

I now understand that having a elected state Senate Congressional rep is one more political corrupt avenue for lobbyists.

However, what say you about the problem of each State with liberal majorities having the authority to appoint their Senators? Conundrum?

16 posted on 01/01/2008 4:42:19 AM PST by A Navy Vet (In perpetuum sacramentum (An Oath is Forever))
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To: A Navy Vet

I have no problem with the “mob” voting for House members. The 17th robbed the “States” of representation in the Republic. The current election of Senators depends entirely on manipulating the “mob” with money to buy a Senate seat. I really think no matter which party runs the Legislature in each State they would not be appointing Senators that would willy-nilly give up State perogatives to a Federal Government as is the case now.


17 posted on 01/01/2008 5:00:23 AM PST by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

Bookmark


18 posted on 01/01/2008 5:11:23 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: A Navy Vet; Neil E. Wright

Bump, to return soon.


19 posted on 03/15/2008 10:21:35 AM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

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20 posted on 03/26/2008 6:42:40 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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