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CA: Brush removal was brushed off (San Diego)
San Diego Union - Tribune ^ | 12/30/07 | David Hasemyer and Jennifer Vigil

Posted on 12/30/2007 9:19:35 AM PST by NormsRevenge

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To: NormsRevenge

Norm few years ago my aunt decided clear brush on her own property did you know she got ticketed by San Diego fire dept

She is like type of person does anything if city won’t she does it cost her 500 bucks like 2002


21 posted on 12/30/2007 12:25:58 PM PST by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: SevenofNine

I wish your aunt and others could sue ,, that is just crazy..


22 posted on 12/30/2007 12:27:24 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: NormsRevenge

Unfortunately I don’t have a truck, I usually have people come here to get it.

We’ve got about another hundred oaks coming out in the neighborhood, and I’m going to get most of it. (I’m the only one with a splitter.) Buying a chipper next week to deal with all the slash. It’s amazing how it improves the look of the whole property.

(I burn a lot, too. A lot.)


23 posted on 12/30/2007 12:57:07 PM PST by EggsAckley
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To: EggsAckley

In my neck of the woods, your sale of firewood qualifies you as a commercial enterprise requiring a Timber Harvest Plan.

County government is not constitutionally required to provide fire services. In the unicorporated areas outside of cities, those services are provided by self-taxing volunteer districts or purely volunteer organizations operated on bake sales and pancake breakfasts. California Forestry and Fire Protection (CDF) provides wildfire fighting service during fire service. The California Code gives them responsibility here for visiting homes and inspecting them for fire safe compliance.

I believe as of 2008, County building codes across the state will change to require building with fire safe materials and clearing parcels of hazards prior to building.


24 posted on 12/30/2007 1:06:53 PM PST by marsh2
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To: newzjunkey
You miss that those departments, different from the fire dept., are revenue generating bureaucrats with no other purpose.

SevenofNine (post #21): "Norm few years ago my aunt decided clear brush on her own property did you know she got ticketed by San Diego fire dept"

We could be wrong... **grin**

25 posted on 12/30/2007 1:13:44 PM PST by an amused spectator (AGW: If you drag a hundred dollar bill through a research lab, you never know what you'll find)
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To: marsh2

I know what you mean about the Timber Harvest Plan, but I don’t think what we’re doing is that major. Our real intention is to clear away some bothersome, threatening oaks on a steep hill next to our road. It hasn’t been done for years and they were getting out of control.

As far as selling the wood, about 70% of it ends up in our fireplaces. I only sell, sometimes give away, a few cords a month.

We do have good protection here from CDF, and they are intimately aware of our little dead end canyon. They love the awareness that the neighborhood has and are very helpful to us.


26 posted on 12/30/2007 1:35:50 PM PST by EggsAckley
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To: newzjunkey

We’re in Sierra Madre, about 1/2 mile from the National Forest up here near Pasadena. SM has a VOLUNTEER fire department. We actually take care of our own yards without even being warned. I don’t know, something about forest fires that makes me think twice about overgrown bushes and weeds. Most of us are very careful.


27 posted on 12/30/2007 1:47:51 PM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: OCCASparky

It is wild out here in California. Winds, EQs, forest fires, wild surf, maniac drivers, Marxists in Sacto, homeless people getting condos in San Fran. Oh, and 73 degree weather today, in December. :)


28 posted on 12/30/2007 1:50:34 PM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: mewzilla
But Fire-Rescue Department inspectors never followed up to make sure the job had been done.

Put your faith in the nanny state and get burned. Literally

Uhhh...The most ridiculous comment of the month, considering the property owners failed in their responsibility to take care of their own property. This absurd turn of events supports the view that idiot homeowners are not fit to be trusted with private property.

29 posted on 12/30/2007 1:53:06 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: EggsAckley

There have been numerous articles stating over 50% of the homes burned were due to flying embers into eaves and lack of bird stops on tile roofs.

Better check on those hazards too.


30 posted on 12/30/2007 1:57:26 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl

Got ‘em covered. I have a 2 acre greenbelt around my house, and the CDF loves it. Tile roof, lots of water sources everywhere. I feel more fire-safe this year than I ever have, just by getting rid of those nasty dead oaks.

Also, I’m in the Santa Cruz Coastal Mountains, and unlike So. Cal, we have lots and lots of native ferns and such growing in the forests. A lot more moist here.

I lived in Santa Barbara in my college years and very much remember the Santa Ana winds and the fires.

Cheers!


31 posted on 12/30/2007 2:56:22 PM PST by EggsAckley
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To: NormsRevenge

I happened to go by there this morning and saw the blackened hills. Here in L.A., the idiot environmentalists always scream and cry when they propose thinning the nearby forests. And then when a fire eventually breaks out, they are no where to be found. Instead, they criticize people for encroaching on the environment. So where are people supposed to live? At some point in the past, those environmentalists are living on land once owned by a gopher. P1ss on ‘em!


32 posted on 12/30/2007 3:01:45 PM PST by rbosque ("A goverment big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away"----B. Goldwater)
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To: EggsAckley

I used to split wood the old fashioned way,, used to .. a splitter is the only way to go,, I dread the day they outlaw burning it in silicon valley..


33 posted on 12/30/2007 3:13:22 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: NormsRevenge
Yes, my splitter is awesome. His name is Woody. He has 26 tons of power behind him, and it’s stunning to see certain big logs actually resist 52,000 pounds of pressure.

I’ve heard that over here when the fireplace ban starts, people like me in the mountains with no access to natural gas will be excempted from the ban. Fire is pretty much my only heat source.

34 posted on 12/30/2007 3:20:14 PM PST by EggsAckley
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To: EggsAckley

I can still burn wood down here if that happens but need to get a good stove.. not cheap.. we’ll see soon enough, I’m afraid.

Good thing for the exemption tho, it makes sense for the hill folk that live up there in the big woods.


35 posted on 12/30/2007 3:47:13 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: ArmstedFragg

True, but there are still a lot of older development there and in Orange County whose owners never replaced the wood shake roofs with the fire-resistant “fake” ones.


36 posted on 12/30/2007 6:13:17 PM PST by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: OCCASparky

http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_7601117?nclick_check=1


37 posted on 12/30/2007 6:18:48 PM PST by purpleraine
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To: NormsRevenge

I think that will come in 2008!


38 posted on 12/30/2007 6:20:06 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: purpleraine

Got the sign in screen and I don’t have Bugmenot. Care to elaborate?


39 posted on 12/30/2007 6:22:30 PM PST by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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Glendale backs off $347,600 tree trimming fine The Associated Press

Article Launched: 11/30/2007 09:50:09 AM PST

GLENDALE, Calif.—The city of Glendale has rescinded a $347,600 fine imposed on a couple who pruned 13 trees around their home.

The FIRE DEPARTMENT suggested Michael and Ann Collard get the trees trimmed and the couple agreed.

But trimming the trees violated the city's indigenous tree law, which protects oaks, sycamores and bay laurels that are native to the area. Hefty fines were imposed because developers had been cutting down trees.

The city decided to back off after rancorous City Council meetings and talk radio ridicule in recent weeks. City Attorney Scott Howard says the city isn't seeking any civil or criminal penalties.

40 posted on 12/30/2007 6:24:42 PM PST by purpleraine
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