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RUDY'S GOT NO HEARTLAND; BOTTOM OF PACK IN HAWKEYE STATE (RINO flops in conservative country)
NY POST ^ | December 31, 2007 | CARL CAMPANILE and GEOFF EARLE

Posted on 12/31/2007 3:16:44 AM PST by Liz

WEST DES MOINES, Iowa - Giuliani's support here has plummeted into single digits....according to new surveys released yesterday. A Reuters poll shows the ex-mayor capturing just 8% of the vote - tied for fourth place with Thompson and Ron Paul. An MSNBC poll shows Giuliani tied with Paul for fifth place with a measly 5% of the vote - near the bottom of the pack. "Where has he been? He stopped showing up," said conservative activist Jamie Johnson, who runs a radio station. Giuliani did not air a single TV ad in Iowa, and his 15 trips here were far fewer than front-runners Romney and Huckabee.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: autocrat; giuliani; giulianitruthfile; gungrabber; ia2008; liberalgiuliani; liberalrudy; rinogiuliani; rinorudy; sickofrudy
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Giuliani did not air a single TV ad in Iowa, and his 15 trips were far fewer than front-runners Romney and Huckabee.

Rooty's campaign is playing a very dirty game conducted by remorseless people without consciences.

What's always left out of MSM news reports is that Rooty and his handlers have flopped badly. From the getgo---these people calculatedly set out to destroy the US political process with their cockamamie plan to igonore early primary/caucus states (places where lurks those “dreaded” conservatives the Rootypukes despise).

Keep in mind, the Rooty bunch are hopped-up cheerleaders for the US' most disastrous policy initiatives including the Iraq debacle and the amnesty atrocity.

Rudy Giuliani's memory underwent an amazing Extreme Makeover when he entered the 2008 presidential race but the guy is still hopelessly deaf, dumb, and blind. Giuliani ran around NYC like a chicken with its head cutoff, grabbing guns, worshipping abortion, indulging himself with mistresses. Giuliani soaked taxpayers for the expenses attached to getting himself sexually blitzed by an assortment of bimbos. Mayor Giuliani surrounded himself with crooks and lowlifes like mobbed-up Bernard Kerik, assorted child predators, and other creeps and losers; he publicly kicked out people like Chief Bratton who dared to stand in Rooty's spotlight........and now he expects voters to forget all that.

Sure Rooty had lousy judgment as mayor---but, according to him, he is suddenly trustworthy enough to sit at the levers of the federal government. Course we are also supposed to not notice Rooty's multiple global businesses stand to profit mightily if he and his handlers ever get their greedy hands on the federal budget. More significantly for America's fragile stability, Rudy Giuliani and his handlers set out to religiously cleanse the Repub party; they plotted to kick social conservatives to the curb, takeover the party and hand it over to liberals. That cockamamie scheme was based on the ignorant assumption that conservatives were going to roll over and play dead.

Snort----that never happened.

Giuliani is as dense as a brick---he still doesn't get it. Voters will NOT elect an individual who publicly humiliated his wife, who dumped his own wife at a news conference so he could carry on with a bimbo he met in a cigar bar. How stupid is this guy? He doesn't fathom the disgust voters have with revelations Rudy used government funds to pork his mistress while paying the NYPD to stand around and watch him satisfy his sexual urges? The final insult was Mayor Rooty hiding the payouts in obscure city agencies to keep it secret from taxpayers.

Giuliani in the throes of sexual overdrive is something to see: the unzipped Giuliani publicly announced he was dividing the Mayoral mansion in two---one side for his mistress and the other for his family. (His wife had to go to court to stop Rooty's transparent plan to dump his kids out on the streets.)

Finally, let us not forget----that pardon pen of Rooty's would be working overtime. Rooty's itchin' to pardon Kerik b/c Kerik is Rooty's obedient yes-man. Kerik is Giuliani’s former driver, bodyguard and Police Commissioner (in that order). Yassuh, Kerik is Rudy's fetchit factotum, the guy who okayed a seven-man NYPD security detail for Rooty's mistress. Plus Rooty wants Kerik in the Homeland job awful bad, looking over FBI files, and making decisions that profit Rooty's global businesses.

The agenda of the Rootypuke religion-haters included a thorough religious cleansing of the Repub Party to rid themselves of those “horrid God people.” All of this entailed kicking conservatives to the curb so that the pukes could takeover the Repub Party. The Rootypukes would gleefully erase all traces of conservatism in the US government, and handover the levers of the republic to liberalism.

1 posted on 12/31/2007 3:16:45 AM PST by Liz
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GO EAST:Republican hopeful Rudy Giuliani campaigns yesterday in New Hampshire while his poll numbers plummet in Iowa.

Phony Rooty is belatedly making a half-**** effort, to salvage his pride, so he won't look like a total disaster come caucus day.

2 posted on 12/31/2007 3:19:13 AM PST by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: Liz

RINO Rudy will do well in Florida as there are a whole bunch of former New Yorkers living there. Florida isn’t really the south, it is more or less little N.Y. at this point.
As for conservative and southern states, RINO liberal Rudy won’t do too well.
NOw when ya get to the blue states he’ll do fine as he is a RINO liberal.
Just say NO to RINO Rudy.


3 posted on 12/31/2007 3:24:47 AM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: Liz
Is it possible that you could write some political analysis about Guiliani without the use of terms like "Rootypuke"?

Personally, I am curious to see if the strategy in which he goes for the larger states (like Florida and California) while ignoring the early, smaller states will make him competitive. I have my doubts, since Republicans tend to pay attention to "momentum" from the early states.

4 posted on 12/31/2007 3:25:47 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Joe Boucher

Rooty better not count on NY-—previous polling found ecen RINO NYC Mayor Bloomberg doing better than Rooty.


5 posted on 12/31/2007 3:33:08 AM PST by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: Liz
Horror of horrors, he is tied with Fred who spent the last 3 weeks in a last ditch effort in the state. Rudy has never concentrated on Florida, so being tied with someone who has would be considered good news in some places.
6 posted on 12/31/2007 3:33:58 AM PST by codercpc
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To: Liz

Hi Liz! Life is good.

Happy New Year.


7 posted on 12/31/2007 3:34:41 AM PST by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.. (A "Concerned Citizen".)
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To: calcowgirl; Condor51; Miss Didi; ARE SOLE; tear gas

Good news day guys-——Rooty’s getting KO’ed in Iowa-—looks like the Rootypukes are going down for the count.

Wonder if Rooty is still keen on kicking conservatives to the curb?

ROTFLOL.


8 posted on 12/31/2007 3:36:35 AM PST by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: ARE SOLE; George W. Bush

“Life is good”-—but life will be better when we are dancing on Rooty’s political grave.

And a very Happy New Year to you and yours.


9 posted on 12/31/2007 3:38:52 AM PST by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: Liz

It’ll be interesting if bloomy runs as an independent who he pulls voters away from, the Dems or the Repubs the most?


10 posted on 12/31/2007 3:41:11 AM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: Liz

Good analysis Liz.

FRed BUMP!!


11 posted on 12/31/2007 3:41:27 AM PST by upchuck (And Senator Clinton's experience is................................. where? What? When?)
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To: Joe Boucher

The problem for Rudy in Florida is many, if not most (in the case of the three SE counties) of the New Yorkers are Democrats.


12 posted on 12/31/2007 3:46:20 AM PST by Clemenza (Ronald Reagan was a "Free Traitor")
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To: Clemenza

And Rudy isn’t a democrat?
RINO.


13 posted on 12/31/2007 4:00:27 AM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: Joe Boucher

Rudy is a Rockefeller Republican, right down to his tastes in trashy women and love for “law and order.” Rocky was at least moderately sensible in foreign affairs, however.


14 posted on 12/31/2007 4:02:08 AM PST by Clemenza (Ronald Reagan was a "Free Traitor")
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To: upchuck; codercpc; Miss Marple; Liz

>>>Good analysis Liz.

No analysis, just hysterics.

>>>Horror of horrors, he is tied with Fred who spent the last 3 weeks in a last ditch effort in the state. Rudy has never concentrated on Florida, so being tied with someone who has would be considered good news in some places.

THAT is analysis. Considering Fred seems to be the generally favored FR candidate, isn’t that the meat of the article?

>>>Is it possible that you could write some political analysis about Guiliani without the use of terms like “Rootypuke”?

Embarrassing, isn’t it.

RasmussenMarkets.com is a “futures market” that several days ago put Rudy’s odds of winning Iowa as almost non-existent, but still likely the eventual nominee. Maybe he figures his chances of the convention win are better if he doesn’t throw money away in a place that would favor Huckabee?

To Win Iowa Republican Caucus

Rudy Giuliani .. 0.2

Mike Huckabee .. 54.9

John McCain .. 4.5

Mitt Romney .. 40.0


15 posted on 12/31/2007 4:07:36 AM PST by tlb
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To: Liz

Kind of Ironic, since two RINOS are essentially tied for the top spot.


16 posted on 12/31/2007 4:31:36 AM PST by NavVet (If you don't defend conservatism in the Primary, you won't have it to defend in the Election)
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To: Liz

I remember not too long back on FR that all the rooty backers said he was walking away with the nomination.seems to me that a fair number of people have gotten over o’le rooty because they just cant square his position on the issues that matter to conservaives.I guess we just were’nt buying what rooty was trying to sell.


17 posted on 12/31/2007 4:34:19 AM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: Liz
From the getgo---these people calculatedly set out to destroy the US political process with their cockamamie plan to igonore early primary/caucus states

Yes, because the Constitution specifically states that Iowa and New Hampshire shall determine the parties' nominees.

And yet, somehow, the Republic shall endure.

18 posted on 12/31/2007 4:51:03 AM PST by Hugin (Mecca delenda est!)
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To: Liz
Its called a plan Liz. Sheesh! His plan may not work but with Huckabee winning in Iowa with nothing more than being pro life as a conservative credential, no wonder Rudy skipped it.

Fred, whom I support, had a plan to enter the race last and win or come close in Iowa and build momentum. He has pretty much ignored NH because he isn't liberal enough to win there. That is his plan.

McCain has been running for Prez since 2000, thats his plan.

Huckabee invokes the name of Jesus, touts his pro life record and pops off one liners to win Iowa and then gain some momentum in the South, his plan.

I doubt any one of these candidates have as much hate in their hearts, including Rudy, as you apparently do.

19 posted on 12/31/2007 5:04:47 AM PST by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: Clemenza

>> and love for “law and order.” <<

No, that’s the OTHER guy. Zheesh.


20 posted on 12/31/2007 5:14:02 AM PST by dangus
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To: Clemenza

>> and love for “law and order.” <<

No, that’s the OTHER guy. Zheesh.

(Rudy’s the drag queen from SNL.)


21 posted on 12/31/2007 5:14:42 AM PST by dangus
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To: codercpc
Rudy has never concentrated on Florida, so being tied with someone who has would be considered good news in some places.

He hasn't? Which history book are you reading?

GIULIANI'S PRIMARY GOAL: FLORIDA; [EXCERPT]
St. Petersburg Times. May 22, 2007. pg. 1.A

The state, and its new early vote, will be central to his campaign strategy.

Get ready to see a lot of Rudy Giuliani in Florida.

As Gov. Charlie Crist on Monday signed a bill making Florida one of the earliest presidential primary states, Giuliani was already gearing up to take full advantage. The former New York City mayor for weeks has been beefing up his Florida campaign team, having decided to make the Sunshine State a pivotal part of his strategy for winning the Republican presidential nomination.

In a compressed nominating schedule where some 20 states, including giants like New York and California, will vote on Feb. 5, the idea is that earlier elections in Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina may not be quite so all-important. Momentum from Florida's Jan. 29 primary could slingshot a candidate to success a week later when most of the delegates are awarded.

"It's the No. 1 target," Attorney General Bill McCollum, chairman of Giuliani's Florida campaign, said of the Sunshine State.

"He needs to win Florida to have the momentum going into Super Tuesday on the fifth. The other candidates probably feel the same way, but I believe he will put more emphasis on Florida than they will," McCollum said. "He sees the big states, Texas, California, New York and Florida, as the key to the campaign."

Which explains the recent flurry of hiring and interviewing of political operatives by the Giuliani campaign in Florida. In addition to field organizers in central and northeast Florida, he hired former McCollum strategist Paul Seago as his executive director for Florida and Orlando-area operative Kathryn Staczek as his state director of field operations. More staffers are expected to be named soon.

Giuliani campaign manager Mike DuHaime said any campaign could win the nomination if it fails to win the other early elections in Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina.

"We're going to play very hard in all the early states, but Florida is no doubt the place where we're strongest," DuHaime said. "It's the biggest state that is now pre-Feb. 5 so it makes it tremendously important."


22 posted on 12/31/2007 5:14:55 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: tlb
THAT is analysis.

Actually, it's fiction. Rudy most certainly has concentrated on Florida.

23 posted on 12/31/2007 5:17:21 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Liz

As much as I can stand Ron Paul...it would be hilarious to see Paul beat Rudy in Iowa!!!!


24 posted on 12/31/2007 5:19:54 AM PST by stockstrader (We need a conservative who will UNITE the Party, not a liberal who will DEMORALIZE it!)
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To: upchuck

Thanks, upchuck.

Fred for anything.


25 posted on 12/31/2007 5:23:36 AM PST by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: Liz

I think that is wrong. Rudy wants the Huckster to take Mitt out so he (Rudy) can win in the South and New England. Rudy knows he cannot take Mitt head on in the heartland.


26 posted on 12/31/2007 5:23:38 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ ("Has there been a code nine? Have you heard from the Doctor?")
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To: Liz

And there are stories in the news this am saying Bloomers is ready to jump into the race.


27 posted on 12/31/2007 5:24:20 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ ("Has there been a code nine? Have you heard from the Doctor?")
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To: stockstrader
As much as I can't stand Ron Paul...it would be hilarious to see Paul beat Rudy in Iowa!!!!

LOL----that WOULD be mortifying for the mayor.

Methinks Rudy goes back to the heartland--not to win, b/c he can't-----but so he won't rank behind ol' Ron when the votes are counted.

28 posted on 12/31/2007 5:28:34 AM PST by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Oh yeah-—Bloomberg’s been planning his move awhile now.


29 posted on 12/31/2007 5:31:02 AM PST by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: Liz
As much as I can't stand Ron Paul...it would be hilarious to see Paul beat Rudy in Iowa!!!!

It would be fun just to watch the Rudy-apologists squirm while explaining that one!....lol

30 posted on 12/31/2007 5:31:07 AM PST by stockstrader (We need a conservative who will UNITE the Party, not a liberal who will DEMORALIZE it!)
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To: calcowgirl

>>>Actually, it’s fiction. Rudy most certainly has concentrated on Florida

That’s not fiction, that’s a typo. The story was about Iowa, which Rudy has skipped so he COULD concentrate on Fla and such states. I understood what he meant. Let he or she without typos cast the first sone.


31 posted on 12/31/2007 5:39:39 AM PST by tlb
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To: NavVet; Calpernia
Yeah, but the difference is this: Romney courted conservatives, made nice with conservatives, and made nice conservative sounds.

OTOH, Giuliani told conservatives to take a hike, and had the gall to insult gun-owners with his cell phone stunt at the NRA.

From the get go, Giuliani rubbed conservatives' noses in his gun-grabbing, gay-loving, abortion-worshipping agenda.

When Giuliani ran for Mayor the NY Conservative Party would have endorsed Giuliani ---all he had to do was come out against infanticide (partial birth abortion)----the creep could not even do that and prefered to run on the Liberal ticket.

32 posted on 12/31/2007 5:42:22 AM PST by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: Liz
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Liz,


Opps ... looks like a typo ...

The US' most disastrous policy initiatives including the Iraq debacle


I think you meant to say "Iraq VICTORY" ...


Glad to help you out, looking from the prespective of History's rear view mirror ...


Patton-at-Bastogne


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33 posted on 12/31/2007 5:44:24 AM PST by Patton@Bastogne (Angels and Ministers of Grace, Defend Us ! ... StarTrek V, The Voyage Home ...)
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To: calcowgirl

N-i-c-e catch.

Thanks for a great contribution to the thread.

Your research-—as always-—is impeccable.


34 posted on 12/31/2007 5:47:26 AM PST by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

REAR VIEW: The trillion dollar Iraq debacle-——before Bush’s surge finally saved it.


35 posted on 12/31/2007 5:49:38 AM PST by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: Liz

StonewallVets and NAMBLA:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1794584/posts

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And also, Harry Hay's, the founder of Stonewall and NAMBLA, was affiliated with communism:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1794584/posts?page=91#91

Excerpt:

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A tall and muscular young man, Hay worked as both an extra and ghostwriter in 1930s Hollywood. He developed a passion for theater, and performed on Los Angeles stages with Anthony Quinn in the 1930s, and with Will Geer, who became his lover. Geer (who later generations grew to love as Grandpa Walton on the TV series “The Waltons”), took Hay to the San Francisco General Strike of 1934, and indoctrinated him into the American Communist Party. Hay became an active trade unionist. A blend of Marxist analysis and stagecraft strongly influenced his later gay organizing.

Despite a decade of gay life, in 1938 Hay married the late Anita Platky, also a Communist Party member. The couple were stalwarts of the Los Angeles Left.

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36 posted on 12/31/2007 6:00:38 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Liz

Liz,

We’ve been saying this all along, haven’t we?
Rudy cannot win.

Even still, 8% remain asleep. His polling needs to be around the margin of error - a perfect descript for Rudy.

Regards...


37 posted on 12/31/2007 6:07:33 AM PST by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Liz
Liz, all your comments in #1 can pretty much be summed up by Rooty's own words:
"Most of Clinton's policies are the same as mine".

So... do we really need a Billy Jeff lite (cough) 'republican' in the WH? Yeah, like when pigs fly.

And if Rooty was the GOP nominee did steal the GOP nomination to run against The Beast, it would be like Hill running against Bill -- just what this country needs, NOT!

And speaking of Billy Jeff & Rooty, here's the REALLY sick part; at least Billy Jeff DIDN'T use taxpayer money for 24/7 protection and police taxi service for his Bimbos. Annnnnd he didn't pick up his wife in a a bar. (there's a name for women like that, it starts with a 'w'.)

Geez, how disgusting is that when Billy Jeff can claim the moral high ground.

38 posted on 12/31/2007 6:08:02 AM PST by Condor51 (I wouldn't vote for Rooty under any circumstance -- even if Waterboarded!)
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To: calcowgirl
Sorry, typo on state, meant to say Rudy has never concentrated on Iowa.

But that was kind of obvious, wasn't it.

39 posted on 12/31/2007 6:11:51 AM PST by codercpc
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To: stockstrader

It will be funnier watching Ron Paul beating Fred in NH!


40 posted on 12/31/2007 6:12:47 AM PST by codercpc
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To: codercpc

Not if he beats Rudy there too!!!!...lol


41 posted on 12/31/2007 6:18:33 AM PST by stockstrader (We need a conservative who will UNITE the Party, not a liberal who will DEMORALIZE it!)
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To: azhenfud
His polling needs to be around the margin of error - a perfect descript for Rudy.

Heh---good one.

42 posted on 12/31/2007 6:23:36 AM PST by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: Liz

The quicker Rudi the cross dresser goes away, along with McScream, Rummmmmanie, Nutcase Paul, and a couple of others.


43 posted on 12/31/2007 6:25:12 AM PST by RetiredArmy (Better prepare, come Nov 08, we have a Marxist Commissar President and Marxist Congress.)
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To: Condor51
...... speaking of Billy Jeff & Rooty, here's the REALLY sick part; at least Billy Jeff DIDN'T use taxpayer money for 24/7 protection and police taxi service for his Bimbos. Annnnnd he didn't pick up his wife in a a bar. (there's a name for women like that, it starts with a 'w'). Geez, how disgusting is that when Billy Jeff can claim the moral high ground......

You got that s-o-o-o-o right.

44 posted on 12/31/2007 6:27:03 AM PST by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: Liz

Some of us predicted this long ago. GOP primary voters are conservative. Giuliani is not conservative.


45 posted on 12/31/2007 6:28:34 AM PST by B Knotts (Anybody but Giuliani!)
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To: Calpernia
....anyone affiliated with Stonewall, Human Rights Campaign, GLBT, Lavender Caucus, Jesse Jackson’s Rainbow Coalition, Log Cabin Republicans, VictoryFunds, and some others ALL have published, admitted, affiliations of this group. Therefore they are also affiliated with NAMBLA, Communism and the antiwar movement.....

Gotta make a note of that.

46 posted on 12/31/2007 6:29:04 AM PST by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: Condor51
Geez, how disgusting is that when Billy Jeff can claim the moral high ground.

No one benefits from the "CLINTON VACCINE" (personal life, conduct, character and integrity don't matter, only professional life matters) than Giuliani. NO ONE!!!

Rudy owes Clinton BIG TIME for that one!

47 posted on 12/31/2007 6:37:41 AM PST by stockstrader (We need a conservative who will UNITE the Party, not a liberal who will DEMORALIZE it!)
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To: codercpc
But that was kind of obvious, wasn't it.

With some of the garbage I've seen peddled here by Rudy supporters, nothing is obvious.

48 posted on 12/31/2007 6:37:52 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Liz
Oops, almost forgot. We have to have this on the thread..



And this...

And now that I think of it, when is Money Bags Rooty going to release the client list of Julie-Annie Partners and all his other money laundering front companies?????

For all we know Osama bin Laden or a Mexican Drug Cartel could be clients.

49 posted on 12/31/2007 7:30:38 AM PST by Condor51 (I wouldn't vote for Rooty under any circumstance -- even if Waterboarded!)
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To: Miss Marple

I can’t help but think Liz is actually Donna Hanover. Has anyone ever seen them in the same room?


50 posted on 12/31/2007 7:41:42 AM PST by defconw (Pray for Snow!)
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