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(Indian) Navy may go for European aircraft
The Tribune,India ^ | December 31,2007 | Girja Shankar Kaura

Posted on 12/31/2007 9:01:53 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki

Reconnaissance

Navy may go for European aircraft

Girja Shankar Kaura Tribune News Service

New Delhi, December 31

The Indian Navy, which is all set to float the long-delayed global tender for maritime reconnaissance aircraft (MRA), seems to have narrowed down its choice to the offering from the European consortium of EADS.

With two lines of thinking prevailing in the Navy, one to fulfil the short-term immediate requirements and the second for the long-term permanent solution, the pendulum for the latter seems to have swung in favour of the EADS.

A four-member Navy team, headed by a one-star officer, had observed trials in July on MRA derivatives of the Airbus A-319, manufactured by the EADS Spain and the Boeing P-8A Poseidon in the US.

Since neither of MRA derivatives exists, the flight trials involved simulations on the Airbus A-320 and the Boeing-737 platforms on representative flight profiles and mission system evaluations.

Sources here said with the EADS offering the aircraft at a much lower price than the Boeing, the A-319 version had emerged as the favourite in the race. This despite the Pentagon pledging to make additional technical, military capabilities available to New Delhi as the P-8A enters into service with the US military.

It seems the price, at which the EADS would be arming the Indian Navy with the eight MRAs, is almost $ 400 million less than the price offered by Boeing. Chief of Naval Staff Admiral Sureesh Mehta had recently said: “We have completed our evaluations of various long-range maritime patrol aircraft and a request for proposals (RFPs) should go out very soon”.

Incidentally, the Navy is also in talks with the state-owned Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) for developing a rotary-wing unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) to enhance its maritime surveillance capabilities. The Navy needs the aircraft to replace its ageing fleet of eight Soviet-era Tupolev Tu-42s that are on the verge of completing their service life and also the remaining two IL-38 aircraft.

Besides these aircraft, the Navy depends on its fleet of around 15 Dornier 228-101 aircraft and 12 Israeli Searcher Mark II and Heron unmanned aerial vehicles to monitor India’s 7,516 km long coastline, 1,197 islands and a 2.01 square km exclusive economic zone. This, the experts say, is not good enough an inventory for the purpose.

Warning bells for immediate upgrade of the MRA were also sounded at an international summit earlier this year over the mounting terrorist threats to sea lanes around Indonesia and the straits of Malacca, which serve as a choke-point for a significant percentage of global shipping. At the meeting in the US, which included representatives from Australia, Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, Japan and other countries, a request was made for India to play a major policing role against sea-piracy in the region.

Successful procurement of the MRA would contribute to India’s capabilities, as its naval responsibilities undergo rapid growth. Boeing had offered India a customised version of the P-8A that is scheduled to fly in late 2009 with operational capability set for 2013. The EADS platform, too, is expected to be ready around the same time.

Both had also seriously examined the possibility of partnering Indian companies to jointly develop communications, data-link and identification friend-or-foe (IFF) equipment as an added sales incentive.

The other initial bidders for the contract had included Israel Aerospace Industries and Elta Systems (Orion) and a Russian consortium with the upgraded Ilyushin Il-38SD.

With the choice for the longer range MRA falling on the aircraft, which are still under development, reports suggest the Navy was seriously considering acquiring two or three aircraft as interim measure where it could consider Lockheed Martin’s P-3 Orion, even though it has a turbo-prop engine, and the other bidders again.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; boeing; india; navair; p8
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1 posted on 12/31/2007 9:01:56 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

First posted thread in 2008!

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2 posted on 12/31/2007 9:10:22 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Congrats!


3 posted on 12/31/2007 9:17:23 PM PST by doc1019 (Rabbit and the Hare … Fred ‘08)
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To: Jet Jaguar
Bout your tag line

It would be ‘anybody but Bush’ Oh, thats the Dem's party line too!

4 posted on 12/31/2007 11:08:24 PM PST by valkyry1
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5 posted on 12/31/2007 11:23:35 PM PST by Vroomfondel
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6 posted on 01/01/2008 12:08:57 AM PST by magslinger (cranky right-winger)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
It seems the price, at which the EADS would be arming the Indian Navy with the eight MRAs, is almost $ 400 million less than the price offered by Boeing.

With the dollar so low against the euro, how could Boeing miss the mark by this much? Is Boeing offering a significantly better aircraft? It is possible that the P-8A has a lot of bells-and-whistles that the Indians don't need.

7 posted on 01/01/2008 7:38:35 AM PST by SC Swamp Fox (Join our Folding@Home team (Team# 36120) keyword: folding)
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To: SC Swamp Fox

All the bells & whistles the P-8 has needn’t be open for export.


8 posted on 01/01/2008 8:24:41 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: SC Swamp Fox

EADS has been known to drastically underbid to get an order.


9 posted on 01/01/2008 8:27:41 AM PST by phantomworker (If you're not confused, you're not paying attention.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

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Posted on 12/31/2007 9:01:53 PM PST

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10 posted on 01/01/2008 8:30:26 AM PST by phantomworker (If you're not confused, you're not paying attention.)
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To: phantomworker
EADS has been known to drastically underbid to get an order.

Yeah, I guess that when the alternative is paying workers to sit around doing nothing, any order at any price becomes attractive.

It's a real shame that Boeing is competing against a Gov't jobs program. I'm sure the WTO will step in and slap EADS's hand for this.;</sarcasm>

11 posted on 01/01/2008 8:49:35 AM PST by SC Swamp Fox (Join our Folding@Home team (Team# 36120) keyword: folding)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Jet airliners converted to combat roles are just lame, sorry. Reminds me of the Carter Administration’s proposal to retire the B-52 and buy 747’s with bays for cruise missles.


12 posted on 01/01/2008 10:20:40 AM PST by DesScorp
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Jet airliners converted to combat roles are just lame, sorry.

So -- how explain the success of the P-3, the Nimrod, and others I have probably forgotten about?

13 posted on 01/01/2008 10:28:51 AM PST by Snickersnee (Where are we going? And what's with this handbasket?)
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To: Snickersnee

I didn’t say that.


14 posted on 01/01/2008 10:35:10 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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