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Denying Muslims Visas
Investor's Business Daily ^ | 1/4/2008 | Unsigned editorial

Posted on 01/04/2008 7:52:54 PM PST by dcwusmc

Immigration: Ron Paul may be a fringe presidential candidate, but Muslim student visas is no fringe topic. It threatens homeland security, and the Republican gadfly deserves credit for raising the issue.

In a controversial ad that's sending his libertarian fans into orbit, Paul proposes tough new immigration policies, including denying visas to Muslim students from terrorist states.

Paul, a congressman from south Texas, also proposes ending "birthright citizenship," which allows the children of Middle Eastern and other illegal immigrants to stay in America. Such anchor babies now include the offspring of jailed or deported terrorists.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: enemywithin; fifthcolumn; immigration; infiltration; islam; muslim; ronpaul; taquiyya
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OK... reasoned discussion ONLY, please.
1 posted on 01/04/2008 7:52:57 PM PST by dcwusmc
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To: dcwusmc; Revelation 911; SubGeniusX

Ping...


2 posted on 01/04/2008 7:54:30 PM PST by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: dcwusmc

I agree with him, and I think it should be taken further. I’m for deporting all muslims who come from a terrorist nation or anyone with ties to CAIR or any other organization that supports terrorism.


3 posted on 01/04/2008 7:56:38 PM PST by pctech
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To: dcwusmc
Paul proposes tough new immigration policies, including denying visas to Muslim students from terrorist states.

What stops the muslims from lying and claiming to be Christians? Lying is proscribed in Islam if it promotes the religion.

4 posted on 01/04/2008 7:57:10 PM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: dcwusmc
The proposal to deny visas based solely on religion could be construed as unconstitutional. Ron should understand that.

Also, ending the birthright is unconstitutional, we may need a CA for it. I do agree with both on principle.

5 posted on 01/04/2008 7:58:04 PM PST by nwrep
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To: dcwusmc
Certainly worthy of discussion.

I don’t think a blanket yes or no policy is best, but how to decide who gets student visas and who doesn’t? Much of our tech industry is populated by foreign students who end up staying. How to just keep the troublemakers out?

6 posted on 01/04/2008 7:58:18 PM PST by tips up
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To: dcwusmc

Ron Paul may be nutty as a 10 dollar fruitcake, but he’s right on both these counts!


7 posted on 01/04/2008 7:59:59 PM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Fred Head and proud of it! Fear the Fred!)
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To: highlander_UW

But it`ll give our people even more ammo to deport them when they do get caught lying,stake out their mosques for proof.


8 posted on 01/04/2008 8:01:03 PM PST by nomad
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To: highlander_UW

I can think of several “tests” to give a Muslim applicant....


9 posted on 01/04/2008 8:01:50 PM PST by Eye of Unk
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To: nwrep
Also, ending the birthright is unconstitutional, we may need a CA for it.

I'm not so sure about that. IIRC, the 14th amendment doesn't guarantee citizenship to any and all who just happen to be downloaded on American soil. That's just the way it has been interpreted by liberal judges over the past few decades. Perhaps a Congressional "clarification" of the true meaning of the 14th amendment is in order.

10 posted on 01/04/2008 8:02:12 PM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Fred Head and proud of it! Fear the Fred!)
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To: nwrep

There are some Muslims who are actually on our side. Such as the guy in my tagline and on my Freeper page.


11 posted on 01/04/2008 8:02:27 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: nwrep

“Birthright” citizenship was, according to the discussion at the time of the 14th amendment, never intended to be as it is today. It was not within the meaning of the amendment at all so a simple clarifying law should do it...

I’m not sure how a law excluding muslims from terrorist-supporting nations, such as Saudi Arabia, could work, but it sure is worthy of a try!!!


12 posted on 01/04/2008 8:02:53 PM PST by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: Vigilanteman

Those who ARE on our side need to speak out... lest CAIR and the other slimeballs drown them out... and our own MSM should start carrying their words... (like THAT’LL ever happen, I know!!!)


13 posted on 01/04/2008 8:05:34 PM PST by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: dcwusmc
I think the should end all student visa until the over stays go home.
14 posted on 01/04/2008 8:05:38 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: dcwusmc

“..denying visas to Muslim students from terrorist states”

Denying visas AND entry to ANY Muslims makes more sense to me.


15 posted on 01/04/2008 8:07:55 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: org.whodat; All

I have no problems with that one...

and now... I’m off to the showers... check in later. Y’all behave now, hear???


16 posted on 01/04/2008 8:08:00 PM PST by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: nwrep
ending the birthright is unconstitutional,

Is not!

http://www.heritage.org/research/legalissues/lm18.cfm

17 posted on 01/04/2008 8:09:01 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: highlander_UW
What stops the muslims from lying and claiming to be Christians? Lying is proscribed in Islam if it promotes the religion.

That's why when you read;(One in four college-age Muslims in America support suicide bombings, a Pew poll found.)
If taqiyya is involved, maybe 3 out of 4 college-age Muslims in America approve suicide bombings.

Asking a Muslim about suicide bombers or religious questions , and expecting a straight answer, as if you asked "what time is it", only shows he naiveness of the Infidel asking the question. - tom

18 posted on 01/04/2008 8:10:29 PM PST by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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To: Eye of Unk
I can think of several “tests” to give a Muslim applicant...

Do any of them involve this?


19 posted on 01/04/2008 8:18:20 PM PST by Disambiguator (Political Correctness is criminal insanity writ large.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

This is the best thing about the Paul candidacy and the money that gets put into it. Without a man standing up like he does these issues would never get addressed.

Think what Ross Perot did to raise the issue of the national deficit during the 1990 campaign that led directly to the Republican “Contract with America” which ended 40 years of Democratic domination of the House and Senate.

_That_ is the importance of the Ron Paul candidacy.


20 posted on 01/04/2008 8:20:01 PM PST by glorgau
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