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Romney's Debate Fib
The Daily Dish ^ | Jan. 6, 2008 | Andrew Sullivan

Posted on 01/06/2008 4:01:48 PM PST by ellery

Check the transcript out:

MCCAIN: It's not amnesty. And for you to describe it as you do in the attack ads, my friend, you can spend your whole fortune on these attack ads, but it will won't be true.

-snip because the Atlantic is a must-excerpt-

ROMNEY: I don't describe your plan as amnesty in my ad. I don't call it amnesty.

Now watch the ad (http://youtube.com/watch?v=mfRBUuO6jB8). Romney lied.

(Excerpt) Read more at andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; election; elections; gopdebates; mccain; mitt; mittromney; nh2008; romney; romneytruthfile
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Why does Romney lie about things that are so easily verifiable?? Why didn't he just say "I called it amnesty in my ad because your plan was amnesty?"

????

1 posted on 01/06/2008 4:01:49 PM PST by ellery
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To: ellery

He’s flawed.


2 posted on 01/06/2008 4:03:10 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: ellery
Because Mitt’s true colors are showing, he is a LIBERAL masquerading as a conservative.
And ? he is a flipflopping lier.
3 posted on 01/06/2008 4:04:08 PM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: ellery

Romney is a socialist.

McCain is an amnesty supporter.

They both suck, so who cares?

McCain lied too - it WAS amnesty he proposed. I don’t care what he calls it.

I could stick some feathers up my butt, but it wouldn’t make me a chicken.


4 posted on 01/06/2008 4:04:17 PM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (The GOP is "Whig"ing out.)
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To: ellery

Jumping on the MSM bandwagon alert.

Mitt Romney wants to soften his rhetoric toward John McCain. Why is that so hard to understand, given the political atmosphere in NH? Romney is just being smart.


5 posted on 01/06/2008 4:04:47 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (Romney Rocks!!!)
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem

Just in case anyone missed this interview! GO FRED!
http://fredfile.fred08.com/blog/2008/video-fred-thompson-on-fox-news-010608/


6 posted on 01/06/2008 4:06:30 PM PST by seekthetruth
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem
McCain lied too - it WAS amnesty he proposed. I don’t care what he calls it.

I agree 100%. That's why I can't believe Romney didn't just say that he called it amnesty because it was amnesty. It was a gutless lie.

7 posted on 01/06/2008 4:07:30 PM PST by ellery ("I love mandates!" - Mitt Romney, January 5, 2008)
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To: ellery
ROMNEY: I don't describe your plan as amnesty in my ad. I don't call it amnesty.

I don't wear magic undergarments. In fact I don't have on any at all right now...

What? Amnesty? Uuhhh.....

8 posted on 01/06/2008 4:08:26 PM PST by humblegunner (My KungFu is ten times power.©)
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To: ellery
Just like other liberals, lying is part of their shtick. They believe it is how you convince the maximum voters to hand you political power. Its pathological.

U.S. Army Retired


9 posted on 01/06/2008 4:10:56 PM PST by big'ol_freeper (ROMNEY: "I LOVE MANDATES.")
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To: ellery

oh my this really upsets me, NOT.


10 posted on 01/06/2008 4:10:59 PM PST by libbylu
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To: ellery
Why does Romney lie about things that are so easily verifiable?? Why didn't he just say "I called it amnesty in my ad because your plan was amnesty?"

Actually, in a clintonian sense, he was telling the truth or some semblance thereof. You see, he never said the word amnesty himself. He just presented video of other people saying it (several times).

11 posted on 01/06/2008 4:13:50 PM PST by Bob
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To: ellery

I would feel very uncomfortable using a gay leftist as a source for campaign information.


12 posted on 01/06/2008 4:22:37 PM PST by Perdogg (Fred Thompson - John Bolton 2008)
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To: Bob
Actually, in a clintonian sense, he was telling the truth or some semblance thereof.

good catch

13 posted on 01/06/2008 4:23:57 PM PST by Freee-dame
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To: Saundra Duffy; ellery
“Mitt Romney wants to soften his rhetoric toward John McCain. Why is that so hard to understand, given the political atmosphere in NH? Romney is just being smart.”

It was smart to call it amnesty but it was short-bus stupid to send out 10,000 fliers calling it that and then go on TV and say you didn’t.

Just like John Kerry, Mitt has flip-flopped himself into a footnote of history.

14 posted on 01/06/2008 4:24:04 PM PST by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: ellery

Actually, I don’t think Romney’s fibbing. He’s probably referring to this ad, which more directly relates to the issue of illegal immigration than the ad you posted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmhaypWwFPY

Here he just states that illegals get to stay permanently under McCain’s plan and that they he voted to give them social security for illegal work.

Both those statements are true.


15 posted on 01/06/2008 4:27:41 PM PST by CaspersGh0sts
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To: Beagle8U

As I posted in my earlier post, I don’t think Romney’s that dumb. He’s rather obviously referring to his illegal immigration ad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmhaypWwFPY

The video posted above is just an amalgamation of complaints against John McCain. It’s no doubt an oversight by Romney. As for the wording of his ads, I’m sure Romney was a lot more concerned about it in the ad where he directly compares his own positions v. those of Senator McCain’s.


16 posted on 01/06/2008 4:34:19 PM PST by CaspersGh0sts
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To: ellery
Mclame plan was amnesty and it still is amnesty! But then so is Willards and his illegal gardener. I would like someone to ask them both what the nationality is of their in house help. I would bet both mclame and willard have illegal maids and cooks.
17 posted on 01/06/2008 4:35:15 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Bob
Actually, in a clintonian sense, he was telling the truth or some semblance thereof. You see, he never said the word amnesty himself. He just presented video of other people saying it (several times).

Sort of like the Huckster saying he was opposed to amnesty, and a five minute touch back was not amnesty.

18 posted on 01/06/2008 4:38:03 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: ellery

McCain’s the total package: Stupid, Corrupt, and Dishonest.


19 posted on 01/06/2008 4:38:41 PM PST by Dagnabitt ( McCain-Kennedy: Amnesty for Illegals, Contempt for Americans.)
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"I called it amnesty in my ad because your plan was amnesty?"

Simple. He doesn't think it's amnesty.

20 posted on 01/06/2008 4:39:35 PM PST by Petronski (Willard Myth Romney: 51% negatives)
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