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SWAT officers invade home, take 11-year-old at gunpoint
WND ^ | Jan 7, 2008 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 01/07/2008 4:04:46 AM PST by driftdiver

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To: Scotsman will be Free
Well, all I know is that lots of police policy was written with an eye towards not being sued.

They usually fall back on soverign immunity anyway. I'll be interested in seeing how the lawsuits against the Durham officials pan out.

101 posted on 01/07/2008 6:36:27 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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To: driftdiver

“Whatever happened to knocking on the door and serving a warrant?? Regardless this is an amazing abuse of power.”

I agree, even if this was a case of christian scientists 50 years ago, a knock would have sufficed.

Religious freedom was dealt a serious blow when medical science started curing children of things that earlier would have only been dealt with by prayer.

Or so says my Grandad..


102 posted on 01/07/2008 6:37:01 AM PST by Unassuaged (I have shocking data relevant to the conversation!)
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To: Wallace T.
Abuses like this tend to move people to support someone like Ron Paul, whose evident blindness toward the danger from Islamic terrorism and the increased threat from Russia, China, and their Marxist allies is as dangerous to our national safety as overbearing social workers, tyrannical judges, and brutal SWAT teams are to our personal liberty. Much of what Paul says on the domestic front is accurate, but his foreign policy views are disastrous.

Bureaucrats like this sheriff and social worker are a much more immediate danger to America and our liberties than are a few Islamists who have a hard time deciding to spend the night with their wife or their camel.

103 posted on 01/07/2008 6:48:03 AM PST by ksen ("For an omniscient and omnipotent God, there are no Plan B's" - Frumanchu)
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To: ksen
Bureaucrats like this sheriff and social worker are a much more immediate danger to America and our liberties than are a few Islamists who have a hard time deciding to spend the night with their wife or their camel.

AMEN!!!

104 posted on 01/07/2008 6:49:57 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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To: sport

I wonder if the family dog survived...


105 posted on 01/07/2008 6:54:25 AM PST by Politicalmom (Huckabee’s foreign policy experience consists of eating at the International House of Pancakes.)
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To: from occupied ga
"So if Joe Smith (the government) is constantly vandalizing your property, your going out and extorting money from Bob Jones (the taxpayer) is going to make Smith stop? Just exactly how does this work?"

Joe Smith is vandalizing your property in the performance of his assigned work duties. Joe Smith is Bob Jones' employee. Only Bob has the power to change Joe's work practices. The issue must be addressed with Bob.

106 posted on 01/07/2008 7:09:29 AM PST by VRWCtaz (You're not just seeing things if you can get others to see them too. Now about the voices...)
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To: ksen
I agree with most of Paul's domestic agenda, with the exception of abolishment of the Federal Reserve. The attacks on Paul by both the MSM and many conservative spokesmen have been scurrilous and trivial in nature. This includes the frothing at the mouth anti-Paul attackers on FR who think ridicule replaces reason and baseless slander is a legitimate tactic.

The overseas danger is greater than a few terrorists. One could argue that it was wrong to fight the Nazis, the Japanese, and the Communists because this nation had its own abuses, such as segregation and racial discrimination against nonwhites. History showed that proposition to be wrong. The threat from the Islamic world, and behind them, Russia and China, is greater than that of a few terrorists. Since the Cold War era, the nationalists and Islamic extremists have been supplied with weapons and funding from the Soviets. Ultimately, the Islamic radicals are underwritten from Beijing and Moscow. Neither China nor Russia are our friends, and Putin is as much an enemy of this nation and the West as any of his Soviet-era predecessors. China's economy will surpass ours in the near future, and both nations have the resources to serious challenge America's superpower status.

There is no reason that we cannot prune back Federal power and restore states rights and individual liberties while still maintaining a strong presence against our Islamic and Communist enemies. Believing that if we withdraw our military presence, these enemies will become beneficent is a level of unreality greater than Chamberlain had toward Hitler.

107 posted on 01/07/2008 7:12:46 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: VRWCtaz
The issue must be addressed with Bob.

Only two problems with that. One is that extremely few government bureaucrats are elected. Look at the federal government 537 out of 19,000,000. The other is that the people who pay the bulk of the taxes are disenfranchised. They may have a vote, but when 1% of the taxpayers pay 36% of the taxes that 1% can scream an holler all day and no one will listen. 85% of the taxes are paid by 25% of the populace. Same thing.

108 posted on 01/07/2008 7:30:47 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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To: driftdiver
Under most circumstances I won’t take any family member any hospital ER.

We are uninsured and we are facing lawsuits in CT for outrageous bills. These bills are overpriced seeing as the insurance industry contracts pre-negotiate rates to about 1/3 of the initial bill. The overbilling targets the uninsured in a state-wide attempt to force the uninsured to buy coverage or die (or in our case, leave the state).

My wife goes in for a test that has been verbally quoted at $312. She walks out to a bill the is delivered a week later at $1600.

We moved to Florida and the same thing happened. Three months after the overcharges we received paperwork on a class-action lawsuit against the medical providers. They were being charged with billing the uninsured, amounts that “bear no resemblance to the actual services provided”

Seems to be a nationwide issue all with uninsured as the target.

109 posted on 01/07/2008 8:00:52 AM PST by George from New England
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To: pipeorganman

Deciding to send SWAT was all on the sherif.


110 posted on 01/07/2008 9:24:16 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck is the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aren't going.)
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To: JenB

This is exactly the sort of thing that is likely to get us killed in a blaze of bullets. Kicking in our front door is hazardous to people’s health.


111 posted on 01/07/2008 9:40:35 AM PST by TalonDJ
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To: from occupied ga

APD doesn’t just stand for Atlanta Police Department.


112 posted on 01/07/2008 9:52:16 AM PST by darkangel82 (And the band played on....)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

“’Need’ now means wanting someone else’s money. ‘Greed’ means wanting to keep your own. ‘Compassion’ is when a politician arranges the transfer.” - Joseph Sobran


113 posted on 01/07/2008 9:52:45 AM PST by B4Ranch (( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share." ))
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To: rideharddiefast

Are you sure that you haven’t been rode hard and put away wet too many times?


114 posted on 01/07/2008 9:54:59 AM PST by B4Ranch (( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share." ))
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To: restornu

That a nice Agenda 21 manual!


115 posted on 01/07/2008 9:58:13 AM PST by B4Ranch (( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share." ))
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To: rideharddiefast
Remember this came from world NUT daily. There is more to this story.

You prefer other sources in the MSM?

FOX maybe?

lol...

116 posted on 01/07/2008 9:59:49 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: Calpernia

Why are they always dumbfounded by reasonable behavior??


117 posted on 01/07/2008 10:06:49 AM PST by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: driftdiver

He vass only followink die ORDERZ!!!

(Do you haff your PAPERS??!!!!)


118 posted on 01/07/2008 10:10:08 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: visualops

>>> But he said Shiflett was “rude and confrontational” when the paramedics arrived and entered his home without his permission. <<<

That sentence in itself just makes my head hurt!


119 posted on 01/07/2008 10:13:26 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: driftdiver
Here's the key to understanding this:
"The family, whose members live by faith and homeschool, decided not to call an ambulance. But a neighbor did call Westcare Ambulance..."
Leftist leaders can't allow this. They can't allow fanatical Christian parents to get away with not following the rules. Oh no. They homeschool their son. They live by faith. Oh the horror! Oh! They don't bow down to the great god of liberalism. They must be stopped! Send in the police, armed and with handcuffs, big sticks, mace and tazers. That'll put down these Christian fanatics. Yes. 10 or 11 heavily armed strong men with bulletproof vests are needed to push these Christians down on the floor. Oh yes. Get a few of the big men to stand nearby with guns pointed at the family. Just in case they whip out their rosaries.
120 posted on 01/07/2008 10:21:11 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (what the hell is happening in this once-great country?)
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