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Medved: Call Off the "RINO Hunt" [Barf Alert]
townhall.com ^ | 01/07/2008 | Michael Medved

Posted on 01/07/2008 2:03:00 PM PST by jmc813

There’s an obnoxious and destructive term that’s begun to do real damage to the Republican Party. That term is “RINO,” or “R.I.N.O.” – an acronym for “Republican In Name Only.” Angry conservatives use the term to attack purported moderates in their own party. Recently, Mike Huckabee and John McCain have been attacked as “RINO’s” –Governor Schwarzenegger of California regularly draws that denunciation. Those who make war on RINO’s, however, ought to confront an obvious question: would you really prefer that such people drop the Republican designation? How does it help if politicians or office-holders with whom you disagree leave your party and join the opposition? When alleged “RINO” Jim Jeffords of Vermont left the GOP and joined the Democrats, it gave them control of the US Senate. When another RINO, Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island, lost his Senate seat in 2006, it also gave the Democrats control; if Chafee had won, we’d still have a Republican majority and GOP committee chairs. The truth is that no successful political party has ever been built on ideological purity. You can construct a majority coalition by bringing people into your party, not by driving them away. It’s childish and self-destructive to wage war based on some notion of “real conservatism” with those who want to align themselves with your side. Ronald Reagan himself used to say that “if somebody agrees with me 70% of the time, rather than 100%, that doesn’t make him my enemy.” Democrats understand this principle--- they never attack “DINO’s,” Democrats In Name Only. In fact, they understand the usefulness of such figures: they put forward several conservative Democrats in key Congressional districts in 2006, and those “DINO’s” helped them win a majority in the House. If Republicans continue to express contempt and hostility for those they consider “RINO’s,” they’ve got to get ready for “DIMO’s” – Democrats In the Majority Only.” It’s time, in other words, for sane GOP partisans to call off the silly and suicidal RINO hunt.


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1 posted on 01/07/2008 2:03:04 PM PST by jmc813
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To: jmc813

Nothig this author claims is any worse thant actually having a RINO in office.

Point them out!!!!


2 posted on 01/07/2008 2:05:24 PM PST by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: jmc813
Recently, Mike Huckabee and John McCain have been attacked as “RINO’s” –Governor Schwarzenegger of California regularly draws that denunciation.

Actually, we've known they were RINOs for a LONG, LONG time.

3 posted on 01/07/2008 2:06:08 PM PST by Tamar1973 (Riding the Korean Wave, one recipe at a time http://www.youtube.com/Tamar1973)
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To: jmc813
“When alleged “RINO” Jim Jeffords of Vermont left the GOP”

The use of the term “alleged” qualifies this for “Stupidest Comment of the Year Award”... and it’s only Jan. 7th!

4 posted on 01/07/2008 2:06:57 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: jmc813

Oh sure; I’ll support anyone who calls himself a Republican.


5 posted on 01/07/2008 2:07:19 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: jmc813

I’m no RINO fan... but if you give the article a fair read, he has a good point. We attack our liberal-leaning Republicans. Meanwhile, the Democrats won the majority with conservative-leaning Democrats. End result is we lost and they won.


6 posted on 01/07/2008 2:07:32 PM PST by pgyanke (Duncan Hunter 08--You want to elect a conservative? Then support a conservative!)
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To: jmc813

This Medved character wants us to stop calling RINOs what they are, RINOs. Yet he has no problem calling patriots like me who want the borders secured and want no amnesty for illegals, racists. Hey Medved, SHUT UP!


7 posted on 01/07/2008 2:07:36 PM PST by 50mm (Where's CableNewsJunkie3?)
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To: jmc813
...they never attack “DINO’s,” Democrats In Name Only.

LIEBERMAN
8 posted on 01/07/2008 2:07:42 PM PST by wolfpat (If you don't like the Patriot Act, you're really gonna hate Sharia Law.)
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To: jmc813

This Medved character wants us to stop calling RINOs what they are, RINOs. Yet he has no problem calling patriots like me who want the borders secured and want no amnesty for illegals, racists. Hey Medved, SHUT UP!


9 posted on 01/07/2008 2:07:57 PM PST by 50mm (RINOs, what RINOs?)
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To: jmc813

If Medved hates the term, that means I’m going to keep using it.


10 posted on 01/07/2008 2:08:21 PM PST by Sir Gawain (Fred)
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To: jmc813

Medved seems off his med.


11 posted on 01/07/2008 2:08:50 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Tamar1973

I call them traitors.


12 posted on 01/07/2008 2:08:56 PM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: jmc813

Bravo Medved. Once again you have it spot-on.


13 posted on 01/07/2008 2:09:04 PM PST by barryg
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To: jmc813

Medved should maybe quit pushing the rinos and amnesty and back a conservative.Wont happen


14 posted on 01/07/2008 2:09:11 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: jmc813
Recently, Mike Huckabee and John McCain have been attacked as “RINO’s” –

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Our real mistake was in not attacking them sooner.

15 posted on 01/07/2008 2:09:48 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: jmc813

>>>Those who make war on RINO’s, however, ought to confront an obvious question: would you really prefer that such people drop the Republican designation?

I use RINO in describing the Log Cabin Republican wing of the party. And yes, I would like them to drop out.


16 posted on 01/07/2008 2:13:22 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: jmc813
Misuse of the term has led to it having no effective meaning beyond that the GOP fringe don't like nobody very much. Those guys cried wolf too much.

Well, I exaggerated. Use of the term "RINO" does have some meaning. It means, "Ignore the yo-yo who just used the term RINO."

17 posted on 01/07/2008 2:13:31 PM PST by Thud
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To: jmc813

In reality, there are only a real few that are RINO’s.


18 posted on 01/07/2008 2:13:39 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: jmc813

I guess Medved has never heard of Wildlife Management.

If we let the population of RINOS exceed the habitat, they will all die, and kill of the forage as well as other animals dependant upon the ecosystem as well.

If we let the RINOS overbreed, we are all in danger!


19 posted on 01/07/2008 2:13:55 PM PST by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: jmc813

Certainly, Jeffords and Chaffee earned their RINO designations. Calling people like McCain RINOs is over the top, however.


20 posted on 01/07/2008 2:14:05 PM PST by dinoparty
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To: trisham

Why don’t they start their own “moderate” party, and use the Rhino as their animal.


21 posted on 01/07/2008 2:14:26 PM PST by TheThirdRuffian
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The Republicans National Committee have become complicit with enabling the take over of the party.

They prop up their Most Liberal candidates.

They allow
groups affiliated with anti war movements to operated under the Republican National Committee banners and use our money to defeat us from within:

Stonewall's AntiWar movement funded by International A.N.S.W.E.R. http://www.iacboston.org/images/swalogo_smB.bmp

David Mixner was the one that organized the Vietnam anti war activists. David Mixner was Clintons gay political advisor. It was David Mixner that started the funds for the Victory Funds and the Log Cabin Republicans.


22 posted on 01/07/2008 2:14:46 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: jmc813
Good Lord! its one thing to have “purported moderates" in our own party,”

But its an entirely different thing to have someone who is antithetical to your aims and ideals, or even openly hostile to them.

And that animal is called a RINO, and yes. Get out!
We are thinning the herd by not voting for you. - and no democrat will vote for you either, so wake up!

23 posted on 01/07/2008 2:15:16 PM PST by bill1952 (The right to buy weapons is the right to be free)
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To: All

Medved doesnt like the term RINO because he is one.

They are called RINOs because they fraudulently campaign as conservatives but are really liberals....because they know they cant get elected as Democrats.

Also, liberal Dems hate DINOs probably more than conservatives hate RINOs...and are just as vocal about it. Medved, as in most of his observations, gets that wrong, too


24 posted on 01/07/2008 2:15:18 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Got Delegates? Hunter does)
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To: jmc813
"When alleged “RINO” Jim Jeffords of Vermont left the GOP and joined the Democrats, it gave them control of the US Senate. "

Sort of proves the validity of the term RINO, now doesn't it!

25 posted on 01/07/2008 2:16:34 PM PST by avacado
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To: jmc813

I’ve found my newest tagline.


26 posted on 01/07/2008 2:16:45 PM PST by TChris ("if somebody agrees with me 70% of the time, rather than 100%, that doesn’t make him my enemy." -RR)
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To: Sir Gawain

Is that effeminate-sounding, open-borders, ex-hippie still on the air?


27 posted on 01/07/2008 2:16:57 PM PST by TheLawyerFormerlyKnownAsAl
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1791031/posts
My Email to the Republican National Committee


28 posted on 01/07/2008 2:17:04 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: pgyanke
That would indicate that you and Medved put party over principle.

I’d vote for Zell Miller long before I’d vote for a McCain or a Huckabee.

I vote for conservatives. If we encourage the Dems to the right, that’s a good thing. I’d vote for them

The Republican party has betrayed me quite a bit over the years. The only reason I still vote for Reps is that they are generally not as bad as the alternatives.

29 posted on 01/07/2008 2:17:33 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)
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RINO = Log Cabin = Dems in the Closet.

If you want to know the true nature of the SO CALLED moderate (RINO) republicans, read the gay blogs. They are the enemy within and they are funded by George Soros Rainbow Network monies that ALSO fund the democratic Victory Funds. Since they are infiltrating as ‘republicans’, they now have access to our own RNC donations.

Excerpt:

The sources, who agreed to be interviewed only on condition that their identities be withheld, said Guerriero and his top lieutenant, Political Director Christopher Barron, have “aided and abetted” Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry through their media criticism of the president.

Guerriero and Barron have said they accepted invitations to appear on television news programs to promote their efforts to defeat the Federal Marriage Amendment, the proposed constitutional ban on gay marriage. Log Cabin paid for a series of television ads opposing the legislation.

Some of the critics have circulated anonymous e-mail messages claiming that Barron “worked” for Democratic vice presidential candidate John Edwards, the senator from North Carolina, before Guerriero hired him at LCR.

[Log Cabin stands by Guerriero - Washington Blade - 10-22-04]

Excerpt:

recent “non-endorsement” of President Bush based on “principle” is now also called into question. Is it possible that coordination between LCR and the Kerry-Edwards campaign intentionally engineered the “non-endorsement” as a way to suppress the votes this year of the supposed one million gay voters for Bush in 2000?

[Log Cabin GOP Political Director Unmasked As Former Edwards Campaign Operative - GayPatriot - 10-21-04]

Excerpt:

Patrick Guerriero, executive director of the Log Cabin Republicans.

“The reality is the type of outrage that is being expressed by some Republicans should be expressed at themselves. They’ve decided to use gay families as wedge issues across America in swing states — that is truly outrageous,” he told CNN’s “American Morning.”

[Log Cabin Republicans - Press Release - 10-18-04]

RNC will never get another dime from me until they REMOVE the LCR.


30 posted on 01/07/2008 2:18:07 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1783434/posts
How Could We Not Like Rudy?’ Says Log Cabin Republican Boss


31 posted on 01/07/2008 2:18:47 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Mr. K

Medmed makes the conservative point. Here’s how: It was the RINOS, not the conservatives, who changed parties and thus destoyed the control of the legislative body. Yet we are to be accepting of them without criticism?

The point is not that they are to leave the party, it is that they should be lead by true conservatives. Why must only the liberal Republicans have the right to say waht they want, and only the conservatives are expected to compromise?

The principals in the Republican leadership should acknowledge that their greatest victories were when the conservatives provided the leadership.


32 posted on 01/07/2008 2:19:31 PM PST by LachlanMinnesota
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To: jmc813
would you really prefer that such people drop the Republican designation?

I'm thinking yes. At least that way, I'd know if someone is running as a Republican they actually are one.

33 posted on 01/07/2008 2:19:32 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
That would indicate that you...

I never said I did... have you seen my tagline? I only said he has a point.

34 posted on 01/07/2008 2:19:42 PM PST by pgyanke (Duncan Hunter 08--You want to elect a conservative? Then support a conservative!)
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To: jmc813
Democrats understand this principle--- they never attack “DINO’s,” Democrats In Name Only. In fact, they understand the usefulness of such figures: they put forward several conservative Democrats in key Congressional districts in 2006, and those “DINO’s” helped them win a majority in the House.

The difference is that the DINOs know to keep party discipline and they'll get their crumbs and be happy with them. The RINOs seem to take delight in spitting in the eyes of the majority of the party and acting like they're in charge when the Republican majority was very slim.

35 posted on 01/07/2008 2:20:37 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Government is the hired help - not the boss. When politicians forget that they must be fired.)
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To: pgyanke
End result is we lost and they won.

Please explain to me what 'winning' really gains us if the ones who are winning are more liberal than the conservative Democrats?

36 posted on 01/07/2008 2:20:53 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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The Log Cabin republicans are members of the HRC.

Matter of fact, Log Cabin republicans AND Victory Fund democrats BOTH belong to the Human Rights Campaign [HRC].

See:

http://www.hrc.org/Template.cfm?Section=Federal_Club11&Template=/ContentManagement/ContentDisplay.cfm&ContentID=21742

Excerpt:

At a separate event during the Convention,
HRC, Log Cabin Republicans and the Gay &
Lesbian Victory Fund honored Republicans
who have stood up against discrimination
in the U.S. Constitution and who work for
equality for GLBT families and individuals.
The message is that not all Republicans
are hostage to President Bush’s divisive
strategy and not all Republicans support
him. Later during Convention week, the
Log Cabin Republicans came to the same
conclusion as HRC that George W. Bush
cannot be our next President.

/excerpt

The new head of HRC [Joe Solmonese] sits on the board of an organization whose top contributor is George Soros.

http://www.outletradio.com/grantham/archives/001775.php
HRC Confirms: Joe Solomonese Is New President and CEO

Log Cabins running for President 2008:

Mitt Romney
http://republicanbydesign.com/wordpress/2006/05/2008-mitt-romney-for-president

Excerpt:

He has been backed by Log Cabin Republicans and other gay groups

/excerpt

John McCain
http://www.ps.logcabin.org/

Excerpt:

Previous Log Cabin awards have been given to Gov. M. Jodi Rell (R-CT), Gov. William Weld (R-MA), Gov. Christine Todd Whitman (R-NJ), California Secretary of State Bruce McPherson, Sen. Gordon Smith (R-OR), Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), Sen. John Danforth (R-MO), Mayor Richard Riordan (R-L.A.), U.S. Rep. Mary Bono (R-CA), U.S. Rep. Tom Campbell (R-CA), and U.S. Rep. Jim Kolbe (R-AZ), among many others.

/excerpt

Rudolph Giuliani
http://www.logcabinwa.com/archive/200005191808.shtml

Excerpt:

Log Cabin Salutes Mayor Rudolph Giuliani of New York
“Hearts and Prayers” with Mayor as He Ends His Senate Campaign

/excerpt


37 posted on 01/07/2008 2:21:31 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: pgyanke
We attack our liberal-leaning Republicans.

I'm not so obsessed over the past Governor/Mayor stats of Romney, Huckabee, or even Guiliani.

I care more about the future.. what these candidates propose. What they represent.

Whom they will attract or repel in the general election of '08.

In that sense, Medved is correct when he says the GOP candidates look smarmy when they attack each other obsessively over who raised a fee 12 years ago, or who had more 'liberal' supporters or whatever.

I want a positive conservative promoter. Not a negative bomb thrower who lives in the past.

38 posted on 01/07/2008 2:22:05 PM PST by Edit35
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To: jmc813
Those who make war on RINO’s, however, ought to confront an obvious question: would you really prefer that such people drop the Republican designation?

Yes! I'd also prefer that Mike Medved quit being such a touchy feely weak sister. And while I'm at it...anyone who can seriously refer to Arnold as an alleged moderate needs a cranial rectal inversion.

39 posted on 01/07/2008 2:22:59 PM PST by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: jmc813

He has a point. There is evolution in everything. To resist change in any way is to eventually become a forgotten relic and die.

Change is inevitable.


40 posted on 01/07/2008 2:23:13 PM PST by aroundabout
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To: jmc813

Two words: LINCOLN CHAFFEE.


41 posted on 01/07/2008 2:23:22 PM PST by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: jmc813

The problem is too many people become hyper-critical of others, because their own lives are such a mess. Your treading on dangerous territory when you let your emotions, instead of rational thought, dictate your political views.

2 Peter 2
9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:
10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.
11 Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord.


42 posted on 01/07/2008 2:23:43 PM PST by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Christ's Kingdom on Earth is the answer. What is your question?)
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To: jmc813

Why don’t they just become Democrats and be done with it. As Rush says there will never be a book call “Great Moderates in History”!


43 posted on 01/07/2008 2:25:41 PM PST by Sybeck1 (McCain or Huckabee will never see my support at the ballot box)
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To: Resolute Conservative
I call them traitors.

Not bad...but I call them REMFs. For an ex-Army Officer like myself, the term has so much more cache. LOL!!!

For those unfamiliar with this nugget of an acronym, it stands for Rear Echelon M----r F----r. A more socially acceptable term might be "Staff Puke", i.e. an officer that you want as far from a leadership position as possible.

44 posted on 01/07/2008 2:26:43 PM PST by Night Hides Not (Chuck Hagel makes Joe Biden look like a statesman!)
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To: barryg; Lead Moderator
Bravo Medved. Once again you have it spot-on.

Every time you post on a thread, your views seem more aligned with DU.

I just can't figure out why you are still here? It's getting old now.

45 posted on 01/07/2008 2:27:47 PM PST by CAluvdubya (I won't stop supporting Hunter until he tells me to...GO HUNTER '08)
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To: ishabibble
Two words: LINCOLN CHAFFEE.

Thanks for ruining my day by reminding me of this REMF.

j/k

46 posted on 01/07/2008 2:27:54 PM PST by Night Hides Not (Chuck Hagel makes Joe Biden look like a statesman!)
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To: MEGoody
Please explain to me what 'winning' really gains us if the ones who are winning are more liberal than the conservative Democrats?

Once again, I'm not advocating for RINOs. However, as to your challenge... we would get confirmations, judges, committee chairs, setting the agenda, and a whole list of other goodies.

I'm not calling for us to compromise our principles as Medved is... but he is correct in his analysis that we lost the leadership of Congress due to numbers, not ideology. Where he fails in his analysis is in not noting that it took conservatism for the Dems to take control... it works every time it's tried. Therefore, the logical conclusion (he missed) isn't that we should embrace RINOs but that we should embrace conservatism all the more.

47 posted on 01/07/2008 2:28:44 PM PST by pgyanke (Duncan Hunter 08--You want to elect a conservative? Then support a conservative!)
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To: jmc813

But the opposite danger is that everything becomes about power instead of principle. The trick is learning to accept agreement while not embracing the things you disagree with. Reagan did that well. He took the support but always stood firmly on principles.


48 posted on 01/07/2008 2:29:16 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: jmc813
Governor Schwarzenegger of California regularly draws that denunciation.

No he USED to be call that, now he's called a Liberal.
49 posted on 01/07/2008 2:29:49 PM PST by glaseatr (Father of a Marine, Uncle of SGT Adam Estep. A Co. 2/5 Cav. KIA Thurs April 29, 2004 Baghdad Iraq)
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To: jmc813

I don’t care what Medved says; Schwarzenegger is a RINO!


50 posted on 01/07/2008 2:30:42 PM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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