Posted on 01/08/2008 8:38:21 AM PST by mngran2
France, Japan and Australia rated best and the United States worst in new rankings focusing on preventable deaths due to treatable conditions in 19 leading industrialized nations, researchers said on Tuesday.
If the U.S. health care system performed as well as those of those top three countries, there would be 101,000 fewer deaths in the United States per year, according to researchers writing in the journal Health Affairs.
Researchers ... of the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine tracked deaths that they deemed could have been prevented by access to timely and effective health care, and ranked nations on how they did.
They called such deaths an important way to gauge the performance of a country’s health care system.
Nolte said the large number of Americans who lack any type of health insurance — about 47 million people in a country of about 300 million, according to U.S. government estimates — probably was a key factor in the poor showing of the United States compared to other industrialized nations in the study.
“I wouldn’t say it (the last-place ranking) is a condemnation, because I think health care in the U.S. is pretty good if you have access. But if you don’t, I think that’s the main problem, isn’t it?” Nolte said in a telephone interview.
In establishing their rankings, the researchers considered deaths before age 75 from numerous causes, including heart disease, stroke, certain cancers, diabetes, certain bacterial infections and complications of common surgical procedures.
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France did best — with 64.8 deaths deemed preventable by timely and effective health care per 100,000 people, in the study period of 2002 and 2003. Japan had 71.2 and Australia had 71.3 such deaths per 100,000 people. The United States had 109.7 such deaths per 100,000 people, the researchers said.
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Liberals, and liberals.
France health care system is a big mess with a huge deficit which is going worth and worth.
No more new french doctors want to work in this system.
Legal and illegal immigrants with all children and families can have free health cares.
It is an announced disastre but everything’s fine before the fatal crash when we will meet the ground.
Guess the UK searchers didn’t take in consideration the economic criteria....
I am a french doctor and i would be curious to see the details of their study
“In establishing their rankings, the researchers considered deaths before age 75 from numerous causes, including heart disease, stroke, certain cancers, diabetes, certain bacterial infections and complications of common surgical procedures.
Such deaths accounted for 23 percent of overall deaths in men and 32 percent of deaths in women, the researchers said.”
So the other 68% to 77% died from old age, viruses, accidents or violence, right?
That brings us back to the behaviorial causes of deaths over which no amount of government health care or private health insurance could effect any control.
America hating leftist elites write it and America hating leftist simpletons believe it!!
I don’ know anything about the “Researchers ... of the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine”. Is there any particular reason I should trust them, other than they are all wearing white coats?
The pitch is: "You want the Government to take care of you you must vote for Obama".
The sad fact is our public education system has prepared an entire generation (or two) to accept this jump on the socialist bandwagon!
Abortion is a preventable death.
The biggest factor in the number of "preventable deaths" in the U.S. compared to other industrialized nations is our lower population density. The problem with "access to health care" in many parts of the U.S. is a function of the rural character of large portions of this country, not a lack of medical insurance.
This is why, for example, deaths in auto accidents have become very rare in a place like New York City -- which has very heavy traffic as well as some of the worst drivers on the planet. It's simply not that easy to die in a car accident if your accident occurs in close proximity to some of the top trauma centers in the world.
If you look at any list of nations in the world as ranked according to the alleged quality of their health care systems, you'll find a disproportionate number of densely-populated countries among them -- including Japan, Singapore, Malta, Luxembourg, etc.
The American People!
See my post #26.
This is such b.s.
If health care is so bad here and unavailable to poor people, why is it that relatives of illegals come here to ‘vacation’ when they get a bad diagnosis from a Mexican doctor?
These relatives come straight from the airport to the ER where they are immediately hospitalized. And you and I pay for their care.
This is such b.s.
If health care is so bad here and unavailable to poor people, why is it that relatives of illegals come here to ‘vacation’ when they get a bad diagnosis from a Mexican doctor?
These relatives come straight from the airport to the ER where they are immediately hospitalized. And you and I pay for their care.
That’s because France doesn’t try to prevent any deaths, they just let people die in that Socialist country they run.
Maybe he should consider relocating when the inevitable becomes imminent (from transplant.com):
“Abstract:
Background. Allocation of organs is organized on a regional basis in France. We assessed regional differences in access to organ transplant.
Material and Methods. We used the recipient database and the waiting list database from the year 1994 onward. We estimated median waiting time by region and organ. The probability of receiving a transplant was estimated using the Kaplan-Meier method. Between-region comparisons used the log-rank test, with adjustment for blood type and disease category.
Results. At the end of a 4-month follow-up period, 49% of 3,553 patients had received transplants: 64% of 797 benefited from liver transplants, 52% of 549 from heart transplants, and 22% of 2,207 from kidney transplants. Death rates on the waiting lists were 10%, 14%, and 1% for patients selected for liver, heart, and kidney transplant, respectively. Transplantation percentage (all organs) decreased from 63% in the West to 43% in the Paris region and mortality increased from 2% in the West to 7% in the Southeast. All tests of inter-regional differences were statistically significant.
Conclusion. Factors explaining geographic differences related to the background of transplant teams, activity of organ procurement, and severity of patients on the list.
(C) 2003 Lippincott Williams & Wilkins, Inc.”
“Researchers ... of the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine tracked deaths that they deemed could have been prevented by access to timely and effective health care, and ranked nations on how they did.”
These folks wouldn’t be connected to that peroper(never wrong) British Publication the Lancet, would they? That’s the Lancet with those laughable Iraq death rates. That’s the Lancet who’s numeral anslysis techniques have been thoroughly discredited by real mathematicians...not Drs, lawyers, and journalists.
Yeah the 15,000 died the year before this statistic was measured. So of course this stat would be higher if those elderly had made it past the heat wave into the stat calendar year.
How conveeeeenient!
When I was in Marseilles last summer, out guide told us they had a shortage of doctors in France. She said 40% of the people with cancer in her region never get to see an oncologist. She wasn’t too impressed with their system.
Just another push for US socialized medicine.
Such nice round numbers. They fit the shape of the colons from which they were pulled.
Your cousin is very lucky the french health care is dying fast.You can’t make a real evaluation of the french health care with the case of your cousin.
As many french doctors i am leaving and looking to work abroad...
All the analysis of the french health care are warning for a huge doctors deficit coming in the next years concerning all the fields of medicine.Beside this there is a huge economic deficit which weighs heavily and weakens french economy
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