Posted on 01/09/2008 3:52:03 AM PST by databoss
"Instead of the town saying, 'Oh, my God! What kind of ravenous vampires have we become?' and lowering their...damned taxes, 'The town is pushing a program that would let seniors work part-time...to help pay off some of their property taxes.'"
From AP, we can't believe our eyes when we read, "Plan Would Let Seniors Work to Pay Taxes". It seems that in Greenburgh, N.Y., the damned local government is eating the financial guts out of its citizens. For example, a 76-year old woman named Audrey Davison lives alone, gets a $620 Social Security check per month ($7,440 a year), and has to pay $12,000 a year in property taxes on the house that she has lived in for 43 years! ...
(Excerpt) Read more at safehaven.com ...
take a look at this link to see just how badly RE prices have fallen...and the MSM sez they have only fallen by 6-7% it's more like 60%
Property taxes, income taxes, what's the difference? I cost the government no more if I have a bigger house, or more land so my share of it should be the same as my neighbors. Here, in fact, the people with the biggest houses (not me) usually send their kids to private school so they cost the government less than I do, or did. (My kids are grown now. Hey! I cost the government less too!) Tax assessments should be uniform in dollars, not rate, for every entity within the jurisdiction that is being taxed. That's how to keep them down as the people at the margins will holler, just as they do with supposedly high gasoline prices. I could never figure out why the guy who drives a cab twelve hours a day has to pay higher income taxes than the one who drives eight hours a day, but I guess you have.
ML/NJ
It looks like she is already getting a big reduction in taxes on two lines listed as AGED-ALL and SNR.STAR. What are those and do they apply to everyone or just some people like the elderly?
Does anyone know how to read NY tax records? If this was Ohio, it would list the "fair market value", the 35% assessed value and the tax on it instead of some assessed value which clearly is not close the the real property value.
ML/NJ
The proposal has caused a stir in Greenburgh, a town of 90,000 in Westchester County, which has the nation's third-highest homeowner property taxes. The plan would be unusual if not unique in New York, but similar programs are considered successes in Colorado, Massachusetts, South Carolina and elsewhere. Davison, who suffers from arthritis and sciatica and needs a walker to get around on her bad days, said she pays about $12,000 a year in property taxes _ perhaps $2,000 to the town _ and has already taken out a reverse mortgage to pay her bills. Talking to Feiner last week at the town senior center, she said, "I would work as long as it was a job where I could sit." "You could be a receptionist!" Feiner said. "You could greet people right here, when they come in." "That I would love," Davison said.
mebbe she owes back taxes...
Not unlike actual propagandists, by the way.
(They do exist, despite popular opinion to the contrary.
It reminds me of the adage, "The greatest trick the Devil ever played was convincing the world he didn't exist."
Those are all valid points. My basic point is that those issues apply to ALL taxpayers — not just the ones who “can’t afford to pay” the taxes in question.
Hard to say for sure. But put it this way... In NY, there are all sorts of governmental entities and most have a tax bill associated with them... For instance, with Greenburgh, you start with Westchester County, then the village of Greenburgh, then the actual town you live in, such as Scarsdale or Ardsley. So she may be living in a really nice place, but then again, the housing "values" in that area are really astronomical.
Mark
Great find...what Mr. Feiner says is priceless...
Anyone with a basic understanding of New York's demographic situation knows that an alarming number of productive citizens are taking Option (3) these days.
Oops... I got it backwards... It’s the town of Greenburgh, and villages of Scarsdale and Ardsley...
It’s been a while since I lived there. While I graduated from Ardsley high school, our mailing address was Scarsdale.
Mark
The birth of the Servile State? Ping
No-brainer: The spectacle of "conservatives" defending involuntary servitude, "work until you drop, and then lose your house" treatment of "the greatest generation."
We have lost our souls.
About 30 or 40 years ago, I read a story in National Geographic. It was about some "culture" in some jungle somewhere, which dealt with its "elderly problem" in a most efficient manner. When someone got too old and weak to provide for himself, he was carried out into the jungle -- by his children -- and left to die.
During the time they were putting the story together, they encountered a strapping young man carrying his father out into the jungle, to abandon him to die.
They had photographs of them -- the old man was carried on his son's back, riding out to his death. The reporter and photographer were aghast, and tried reasoning with him. They begged him not to take his father out to die. They plead with him, they said look, he's your father, he raised you, he cared for you, he provided for you. You can't just haul him out and dump in in the woods to die!
Eventually, they prevailed! The guy turned around, and started carrying his father back to the village.
But then, he ran into the other villagers, who laughed at him, ridiculed him, mocked and insulted him, and he could not take it any longer, so he turned right back around again, carried the old man out to the jungle, and dropped him off to die.
Looks like "modern" civilization is returning to its roots.
For this The Founders fought and died, and sacrified their lives and fortunes?
The Stockholm Syndrome is alive and well in Greenburgh, N.Y.
As someone once put it, the perfect slave thinks he's free.
Yeah, the nerve of that greedy old witch! What makes her think she's somehow entitled to own her house, simply because she's paid for it and lived in it for most of her life?
Taxland Uber Alles!
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