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Caveat: I do not necessarily agree with the title of the article.

I think I have been one of the harshest critics of Huckabee on immigration on FR. Until now, I was never able to find any attempt to explain what Huckabee said on Fox news Sunday on Dec. 9:

"But that pathway to get back here legally doesn't take years. It would take days, maybe weeks, and then people could come back in the workforce."

This explanation, dated Dec. 21 2007, says that When Huckabee said "days, not weeks," he was referring to a different part of his plan that talked about legal visa applicants, not illegals.

It is very possible to say something in a 30 second answer that will be completely misunderstood. Is the Huckabee staffer who gave this explanation spinning here, or is that what Huckabee really meant?

One problem FR people like me have is Huckabee's record, including his deal allowing Mexican Consulate to lease state property for $1 per year.

1 posted on 01/09/2008 1:46:09 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

As governor, Mr. Huckabee opposed a bill to require proof of citizenship to register to vote. The bill would have also required state agencies to turn in illegals.

Mr. Huckabee fought that, as well as a bill to deny illegal aliens taxpayer-funded public benefits. Then-Gov. Huckabee backed issuing drivers’ licenses to illegal aliens.

Mr. Huckabee supported a partial amnesty as governor, in the form of in-state tuition for illegal aliens. He even tried to advantage illegals with scholarships.

He continues to support rewarding illegal aliens who claim to have entered the country as children with in-state tuition — effectively taxpayer-subsidized education. When Mr. Romney pressed him on this at the CNN debate in November, Mr. Huckabee said, “we are a better country than to punish children for what their parents did,” as if that were the end of the argument.

This flavor of amnesty, which was beatenin the U.S. Senate this fall when the DREAM Act came up, gives foreign lawbreakers an economic benefit unavailable to legal but out-of-state Americans.

It also puts illegal aliens in the pool of college applicants. That means for every illegal alien who lands an admissions slot, an American kid is kept out of college. Mr. Huckabee somehow rationalizes this perversity as “compassionate.”

Mr. Huckabee went to Mexico in 2003 to urge the Mexican government to open a consulate in Arkansas. Heleased the consulate state office space for $1 per year (obligating Arkansans to subsidize the rest of the costs of nearly $600 a month). And he put together a sweetheart deal for Mexico to enjoy a permanent facility in Little Rock without having to pay rent for three years.

It’s hard to accept as genuine a recidivist pandering politician’s turn on a dime from multiculturalist, liberal, open-borders, demonizing zealot to true-blue advocate of a no-amnesty, enforcement-only attrition strategy. But that’s what Mr. Huckabee is trying to pull. He hopes voters will ignore his long, awful record on immigration issues.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=24142&s=rcmc


2 posted on 01/09/2008 1:50:20 PM PST by rurgan (socialism doesn't work. Government is the problem not the solution to our problems.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Huck can trot this stuff out, but it’s not what he stood for as governor. He pretty much created a conduit to enable Tyson to have a cheap supply of labor, and I bet my last dollar the taxpayers made up the difference in welfare.


3 posted on 01/09/2008 1:50:54 PM PST by Free Vulcan (No prisoners. No mercy.)
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To: Tennessee Nana; AuntB; Kurt Evans; AmericanInTokyo

Is it possible that Huckabee’s answer was misunderstood?


4 posted on 01/09/2008 1:51:05 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

I understand his plan to be exactly as stated in the article. Those who dislike him will say it is disingenuous or what have you for him to have this plan, but it is the one he has put forth and the one that Gilchrist is campaigning for him with.


5 posted on 01/09/2008 1:51:19 PM PST by wastedpotential (A Reagan Bush conservative from OH and ..... an unashamed Huckabee supporter)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Want to see what he really says? See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypdd0AKJ_Qs&feature=related


6 posted on 01/09/2008 1:53:23 PM PST by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Huckabee’s flip flopping on immigration is just the beginning of his fall, and soon his followers will be looking for a suitable replacement.

The GOP doesn’t get it. They need to let this faction find a home. The amount of invective aimed at evangelicals is surprising, but then everyone wants their votes.

Huckabee has surged because he won a couple of debates and he’s got evangelical support. If a quick rise can happen to the liberal pro-life evangelical Huckster, it can happen to the conservative pro-life evangelical Hunter.

Prolife evangelicals will be very comfortable in Hunter’s camp, since he’s a prolife evangelical staunch conservative.


9 posted on 01/09/2008 2:01:23 PM PST by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter won't "let some arrogant corporate media executive decide whether this campaign's over)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

the Huckster is a fraud


13 posted on 01/09/2008 2:08:03 PM PST by Terrence DoGood
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

This plan of his shifts as much as the Sahara sands.....


14 posted on 01/09/2008 2:08:49 PM PST by Sybeck1 (McCain or Huckabee will never see my support at the ballot box)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

So under the Huckabee plan immigrants would have to return kicks fielded in the end zone?


15 posted on 01/09/2008 2:10:01 PM PST by VirginiaConstitutionalist (Mike Huckabee's speech was better in the original Russian.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; All

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1950794/posts
Huckabee retreats on birthright citizenship

Mike Huckabee yesterday contradicted his own top immigration surrogate, announcing he will not support a constitutional amendment to end birthright citizenship for children born in the United States to illegal aliens.[snip]


18 posted on 01/09/2008 2:11:41 PM PST by AuntB (" DON'T LET THE PRESS PICK YOUR CANDIDATE!" Mrs. Duncan Hunter 1/5/08)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Thanks for the post. If Huckabee took a question on citizenship and answered on work visas, he’s an idiot. Still, it would be consistent with him apologizing to Pakistan for the murder of one of their political leaders...

Huckabee has a long history of supporting illegal immigration by turning a blind eye and equating opposition to it as racism. I would trust him in the WH making policy on illegal immigration about as much as I trust Linda Chavez.


19 posted on 01/09/2008 2:13:45 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Without limited government, there is no religious freedom!)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Guess it comes down to what he says now as opposed to what he did then.

Personally, I don’t trust the guy. That was my first instinct and everything that’s come out about him has only reinforced that.

I think that once President Huckabee is elected, our Democrat congress immediately starts another amnesty bill and Huckabee happily signs it. Since nobody really knows what he’d do, I’ll have to stick with that guess.


22 posted on 01/09/2008 2:17:11 PM PST by Laptop_Ron (It takes a villager to raze a village)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
Propose to provide all illegal immigrants a 120-day window to register with the Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services and leave the country. Those who register and return to their home country will face no penalty if they later apply to immigrate or visit; those who do not return home will be, when caught, barred from future reentry for a period of 10 years.

What is the purpose of registering? What would be the motivation for them to go home? This is a touchback scam.

23 posted on 01/09/2008 2:17:26 PM PST by kabar
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Hey, ding dong daddy —

I really believe Huckabee will say anything to get elected.

And he thinks he has the ability to change our immigration policy by the presidential equivalent of the laying on of hands: this would be hysterically funny if not for the fact of it’s wrong.


30 posted on 01/09/2008 2:25:03 PM PST by SatinDoll
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
I appreciate your willingness to get to the bottom of Huckabee's immigration views.

But he still hasn't explained why he called fellow Baptist pastor Jim Holt's bill to deny public services to illegals "demogoguery" and "race-baiting".

This was the same thing as sending Michael Chertoff out to call us all bigots, for not supporting the last fiasco.
32 posted on 01/09/2008 2:33:39 PM PST by horse_doc (Visualize a world where a tactical nuke went off at Max Yasgur's farm in 1969.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Based on his record, it would be hard to trust Huck on this new enforcement stance.

That said, it may well be a Huck v. McCain race soon - and while there is some chance Huck won’t sign an amnesty bill, McCryptKeeper is a certain signer.

On the other, both are likely general-election losers, so who cares?


39 posted on 01/09/2008 3:15:43 PM PST by Dagnabitt ("McCain-Kennedy": an Amnesty Bill and a Love Story)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

For me, the most telling line is “I now believe that the only thing the American people are going to accept —”

Read that, his handlers and focus groups told him that if he didn’t toughen up his verbiage on illegals, he had no chance at all of being a contender. And I don’t think he’s changed his position, just his verbiage. It’s unfortunate so many are allowing themselves to be persuaded.

Best predictor of future actions is past actions.


40 posted on 01/09/2008 3:25:33 PM PST by Hoffer Rand
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
It shouldn't take years to get a work permit to come here and pick lettuce. So part of the plan that I have is that we seal the borders. You don't have amnesty and sanctuary cities. You do have a pathway that gets you back home. But that pathway to get back here legally doesn't take years. It would take days, maybe weeks, and then people could come back in the workforce.

The above Huckster plan is a work visa amnesty.

The correct way of doing it is for them to go back to their country, apply for a work visa and then they should wait their turn in the visa line.

What the Huckster is describing is line-jumping work visa amnesty.

42 posted on 01/09/2008 3:43:48 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

So tell me again why we want everyone who wants to come here, to come here ?

I really don’t want this country to lose its character thru allowing in millions of immigrants, legal or not, each year.


43 posted on 01/09/2008 4:09:00 PM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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