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Supreme Court appears likely to back voter ID law
CNN Washington Bureau ^ | January 9, 2008 | Bill Mears

Posted on 01/09/2008 8:22:32 PM PST by My_Name_is_a_Number

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A conservative majority of the Supreme Court appeared ready Wednesday to support an Indiana law requiring voters to show photo identification, despite concerns that it could deprive thousands of people of their right to vote. The Supreme Court is reviewing an Indiana law that requires voters to show a photo ID. At issue is whether state laws designed to stem voter fraud would disenfranchise large numbers of Americans who might lack proper identification -- many of them elderly, poor or minority voters. In what has become a highly partisan legal and political fight, the justices wrestled with a balancing test of sorts to ensure both state and individual interests were addressed. Civil rights activists and the state Democratic Party complain Indiana's law is the most restrictive in the nation. "The real question is, does it disenfranchise anyone?"

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: photoid; scotus; testit2; voterfraud; voterid
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To: Timeout
Pray tell, where can you REGISTER to vote without a photo ID?

Wisconsin only requires a copy of a utility bill or lease. Once your friend has registered with the above, he or she can "vouch" for you to register with NO PROOF OF ANYTHING. Amazes me there isn't more fraud.

181 posted on 01/11/2008 6:58:00 AM PST by knittnmom (...surrounded by reality!)
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To: My_Name_is_a_Number
This is how it starts.

First photo IDs.

Then come fingerprints.

Then comes "your papers please, citizen!!"

Then comes a bar code or something.

It seems we've become so steamed about the immigration issue here that we've lost sight of personal freedoms. How did this republic survive for 200+ years with no photos?

I hate it whenever anyone asks me for a photo or ID.

I fully expect that the next time the terrorists hit us, especially if it is a hard hit with a dirty bomb or bombs, we'll just close this country down and put checkpoints at all state lines and make internal passports and photos compulsory. The totalitarian mentality has crept up so stealthily on this country, most people are unaware of it.

182 posted on 01/11/2008 7:16:18 AM PST by marshmallow
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To: GovernmentShrinker

where is the “equal protection” when illegal aliens dilute the votes of US citizens?


183 posted on 01/11/2008 7:18:19 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: 80 Square Miles

they ran out of illegals to register so they wanted to use amnesty to bring in more illegal voters.


184 posted on 01/11/2008 7:20:27 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

let me get this right

the dems say that minorities can’t get ID because of transport yet they can get to the polls, strange that one.
why don’t the dems just be honest and say we know illegals vote, we know they tend to vote for us and we don’t want to stop that.

all this harping about minorities being disinfranchised is such hog wash, they try to cancel the aremd forces votes and absenteee ballots, they like ot cancel the american vote out by having illegals vote

another thing
If I was a minority I’d be really angry with the dems because it seems the dems think minorities are just [plain thick for instance they the dems want affirmative action basically saying that they think minorities are thick so give them the job based on colour.
they say minorities can’t understand the modern voting machines.

still minorities or many still vote for a parry which wants to keep them down and insults them by having affirmative action


185 posted on 01/11/2008 7:28:44 AM PST by manc
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To: Ymani Cricket
It is absurd NOT to ask for ID. Completely absurd. it should be a no-brainer.

Indeed. Try to buy a car with no ID. Try to even rent one. Try to cash a check with no ID. These poor, elderly, disenfranchised people have to cash their government checks, don't they? Plus, the government will provide anyone with a photo ID even if they don't drive. All they have to do is ask for one. Disenfranchised? Only the dead and illegal voters. It is a no-brainer.

186 posted on 01/11/2008 7:32:03 AM PST by Sender (Feel like, I feel like a poke chop san'wich)
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To: hercuroc

This woman doesn’t know where she was born and can’t get a replacement birth certificate ?????


187 posted on 01/11/2008 7:56:22 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: manc

I would love a majority opinion that essentially states whay you just said but only NOT so nice.


188 posted on 01/11/2008 8:24:36 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Sender

I just wish the Chief justice and co would lay the democrats flat out and state in black in white it is obvious WHY they oppose the ID law.


189 posted on 01/11/2008 8:27:27 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
"...but it could also mean that prosecutors are reluctant to pursue voter-fraud cases, which, as our colleague John Fund has pointed out, tend to alienate half the electorate."

My brother is a poll worker in NJ. WE he first began this he noticed that anyone who walked to the table to be "logged in" so they could vote was never asked to provide any proof of who they were or where they lived. My brother asked one of the long time workers there and was told that ID is never required and it is against the law for poll workers to even ask for an individuals ID. When asked what happens in the case of fraud when someone claims to be someone else votes and the REAL person shows up. He was told that they sign an affidavit stating they haven't voted in the election and then are allowed to vote. So, all that needs be done is for me to ask my friend, brother, etc to vote saying he is me and then for me to go and claim I never voted and I have the ability to have 2 votes cast for my candidate.

190 posted on 01/11/2008 8:28:26 AM PST by aroundabout
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To: longtermmemmory
I'm new here so I'm trying to get my message across but say it as nice as possible, believe me I could be more direct
191 posted on 01/11/2008 9:32:38 AM PST by manc
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“Ginsburge is against it.”

Wow, what a shock!/sarc


192 posted on 01/11/2008 10:42:43 AM PST by Signalman
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To: manc
still minorities or many still vote for a parry which wants to keep them down and insults them by having affirmative action

Actually they still support those leaders of NOLA, the "chocolate city" that left them to drown....in the Katrina floods.

This puzzles me.... Nagin abandons them and Bush saves them...so Bush is a racist?

One can't cure stupid.....

193 posted on 01/11/2008 10:47:20 AM PST by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: My_Name_is_a_Number

There are more people disenfranchised by voter fraud than there could ever be people who have no ID.

The DMV offers “empty” licenses, that serve as ID, but not driving privileges.


194 posted on 01/11/2008 11:20:23 AM PST by HonestConservative (Shut the Huck Up)
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To: Mr Rogers
""There is nothing to quantify the extent of the problem or the extent of the burden."

Isn't that the wrong question for a court to decide? The Court should be deciding if there is anything in the Constitution prohibiting legislatures from determining what they must do to prevent fraud.

Bingo!

But then, you didn't really expect a Bush appointee to be a true conservative did you?

195 posted on 01/11/2008 11:47:41 AM PST by Redbob
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To: TheLion

Now, if we can make sure the person who appears at the polls to vote is in reality the registered voter, then we can start to work on the voting machine itself which can be so easily tampered with. I would prefer we went back to a total paper ballot system. Of course it would take longer to count but I think it is more secure than some of these “chad” machines.


196 posted on 01/11/2008 12:19:44 PM PST by conservative blonde (Fred Thompson is the only authentic Conservative GOP candidate)
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To: Dengar01

If a state issued photo ID is required to vote, then is there a law stating that residents of state “X” must have a state issued photo ID? Don’t talk to me about a drivers’s license-it is only required for drivers to prove that they are in compliance with safety requirements of the road, nothing more.

I do not beleive any state has a law that requires a person of majority (over 18) to PAY for a photo ID for any other purpose (there may be other “licenses”) but nothing to just prove “you is you you say you is”.

Those of you who think this is a “good idea” will wail once the REAL ID crap is rammed up your you know what-maybe crossing a state border will soon require you to swipe your REAL ID” and let big brother track you along, or pulling some cash out of an ATM will require the REAL ID first. If this does not bother you, move to the EU....

God Bless


197 posted on 01/11/2008 1:11:24 PM PST by Manly Warrior (US Army, Retired)
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To: TheLion

One more republican 8 yr stint should be all we need get the flat tax passed and then we will see a peaceful prosperous globe. It’ll be the PAX AMERICANI and will make the PAX ROMANI look like a kindergarten exercise.
AMERICA will be globally ascendant and there will be peace and prosperity based not on slavery but on free trading nations under co operation with the American Aegis. TRULY THE BEST OF ALL POSSIBLE WORLDS DOWN HERE ON EARTH ANYWAY.


198 posted on 01/11/2008 1:24:49 PM PST by flat
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To: Sender

better yet, try coming across the border with no ID...
oops... never mind, that already happens.


199 posted on 01/11/2008 6:28:34 PM PST by Ymani Cricket
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To: My_Name_is_a_Number

If the Republicans do not win in 2008, we can all kiss a conservative Supreme Court good-bye. There will probably be at the very least, two more appointments with the next administration.


200 posted on 01/11/2008 7:09:35 PM PST by khnyny (Clinton and Co. are the carnies of American politics.)
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