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Senior Giuliani Campaign Staffers Forego Paychecks
1010wins ^ | Friday, 11 January 2008 10:20AM

Posted on 01/11/2008 8:11:00 AM PST by Calpernia

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To: stockstrader
McCain is now only three points behind Giuliani.......IN NEW YORK!!! (realclearpolitics)

LOL----that is ominous for the ex-mayor.

41 posted on 01/11/2008 9:45:11 AM PST by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: Liz

I would like some more info if you guys can help me. I like many things about Rudy not the least of which is his toughness and cleaning up NYC and of course how he handled himself and the city during 9/11. But I’ve made it clear I want to know more about his views.

I have a friend who lives in NYC and is very liberal who tells me he is dirtier than dirt. She tells me he is the only one who’s made money off of 9/11 among many other things including that his wife holds a job with a 9/11 charity that pays her $100,000 a year. (Btw, while she trashes Giuliani she tells me she’s unaware of any lies or exaggerations told by Hillary so you see where her head is.)

I really don’t know about those things for which this friend is criticizing him and would love some input if you know. I tend to discount most of what this friend says politically because of her far left, crazy views.

FTR, I love Thompson and am hoping he is going to get some steam from last night’s debate. He said everything last night I wanted to hear. But I have also wanted to hear more from Rudy however I can’t feel good about supporting someone like him if he is as dirty as squirt boy, which I have a hard time believing he is.

42 posted on 01/11/2008 9:46:36 AM PST by BlueHorseShoe
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To: BlueHorseShoe
There are many threads here about Rudy's theft problem so on this issue your liberal friend is correct. He stole money from dozens of New York City agencies to fund his affair with his then-mistress now third wife.

The reason he claims he did this was to protect her privacy and therefore her security. The real reason he did it was to keep his second wife from finding out about his mistress.

This information was not known to the residents of the city until last year when it was uncovered in a city audit and splashed all over the New York media.

So it is not surprising Rudy is hurting in New York after these revelations.

If he had run against Hillary for Senate you can be sure she would have found out and destroyed him with this stuff. The simple fact is Rudy is not a viable candidate for dog catcher at this point.

His staffers should seek reimbursement from his wife. She is one significant cause of his current troubles.
43 posted on 01/11/2008 9:59:02 AM PST by cgbg (Election 2008: A Long Ride On A Hillarinobama Short Bus.)
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To: BlueHorseShoe


When Rudy Giuliani walked out of City Hall six years ago, he had $2 million in the bank and the moniker "America's mayor" on his résumé. Then came the book deals, the speaking tours and the partnership at a powerful Washington lobbying house. None, however, would prove more lucrative than the small consulting firm Giuliani and a dozen of his most trusted aides founded in 2002 in an angular glass tower at 5 Times Square.

Most of the firm's top executives were in the mayor's "kitchen cabinet," including Bernard Kerik, his former police chief; Michael Hess, who served as the city's top lawyer; Anthony Carbonetti, chief of staff from '99-'01; Daniel Connolly, special counsel to the city's Law Department from '97-'01; Thomas Von Essen, former FDNY commissioner; and Dennison Young Jr., chief counsel during Giuliani's eight years as mayor.

Since its startup in 2002, Giuliani Partners has formed several subsidiaries, including an investment bank called Giuliani Capital Advisors - since sold - Giuliani Compliance Japan and security companies called Giuliani-Kerik and Giuliani Security & Safety, which replaced Giuliani-Kerik and Giuliani Security & Safety Asia.

By the time Giuliani declared his run for president last spring, his namesake firm had grossed an estimated $100 million. The ex-mayor himself was worth of as much as $66 million. But on the campaign trail he has been fending off questions about the shady clients, disgraced employees and murky business decisions.

Nobody has been more problematic than Kerik, who rose from a job as Giuliani's driver during his 1993 mayoral campaign to head of the city's Correction Department and finally police commissioner. At Giuliani Partners, Kerik headed an affiliated security-consulting company.

Controversy erupted after Giuliani recommended Kerik to President Bush, who nominated him be Homeland Security chief in 2004. Kerik abruptly withdrew his name, blaming tax issues involving a nanny, but reports soon surfaced about stock-option windfalls, connections with people suspected of dealing with the mob and extramarital affairs.


February 27, 2002
Giuliani to Give Money Quickly In Shift on Twin Towers Charity

Rudolph W. Giuliani agreed yesterday to distribute promptly the $100 million remaining in the city's Twin Towers Fund to the families of 430 uniformed and civilian rescuers killed on Sept. 11. Mr. Giuliani's pledge came after weeks of criticism about his plans for the Twin Towers money, including threats of a lawsuit from police widows. The decision by the former mayor, who formed the Twin Towers Fund within days of the attack, amounts to a substantial victory for the families of the rescuers, many of whom have criticized his efforts to privatize the fund, hire a staff of 12 to oversee its work and perhaps take months or even years to disburse its millions.

Even more important, it remained uncertain if New York State's attorney general and the courts would approve the transfer of the $100 million left in the city's Twin Towers Fund to the private charity of the same name that is controlled by Mr. Giuliani. In recent weeks, while seeking control of the $100 million, Mr. Giuliani asserted that he had a ''sacred obligation'' to the families of the dead rescuers, and he suggested that fiscal prudence demanded a measured approach to distributing the money, taking perhaps as long as three years.

In turn, the police widows agreed to abandon their threats of a court fight to oppose the formal transfer of the $100 million. They also agreed not to oppose Mr. Giuliani's continued control of roughly $15 million he has raised since leaving office in the new private charity and to maintain a staff to oversee both further fund-raising and the distribution of additional benefits to the families.

According to several people present, the police relatives lashed out at the former mayor, accusing him of failing to communicate, ignoring their wishes and seeking undue control over their financial futures by forcing them to apply repeatedly to the Twin Towers Fund for money. ''I didn't want to go through the next 20 years asking a board for money,'' said Kathy Vigiano, whose husband, Joseph Vigiano, a police officer, was killed. But those who were not in yesterday's meeting -- most notably representatives from the police and fire unions -- reacted cautiously; in part, they acknowledged, because of their history of bruising contract battles with Mr. Giuliani, but also because the deal took them by surprise. ''Unbelievable,'' Capt. Peter Gorman, president of the Uniformed Fire Officers Association, said yesterday when he was told about it by a reporter.

But Harold Schaitberger, president of the International Association of Fire Fighters, said that he remained adamantly opposed to any transfer of funds to Mr. Giuliani's charity. He also objected to Mr. Giuliani's continued control over even the $15 million in his private charity.Mr. Giuliani, he charged, gives every indication of using the Twin Towers Fund to maintain a staff of loyal supporters and to advance his political aspirations.

Mr. Giuliani has proposed spending up to $2.2 million on administrative costs, including paying a receptionist as much as $8,700 a year more than a rookie police officer. The fire union distributed its $111 million with estimated administrative costs of less than $30,000. ''As far as I'm concerned, all they need right now is a calculator, a check-writing machine and someone to sign the checks,'' Mr. Schaitberger said yesterday. Just last week, in a long interview about the Twin Towers Fund, Mr. Giuliani brushed aside such criticisms.

The president of the International Association of Fire Fighters, said Giuliani gives every indication of using the Twin Towers Fund to maintain a staff of loyal supporters and to advance his political aspirations.

BACKGROUND Giuliani very publicly, for maximum PR impact--- mostly to to suckup to voting blocs and campaign contributors---- ripped up a huge Saudi check made on behalf of 9/11 victims. Then very quietly, Giuliani turned around and accepted big Saudi checks when they were made out to his consulting business, "Giuliani Partners.”

The original Saudi check was made out to the "Twin Towers Fund" Rudy's special little "tax-exempt charity." Rudy appointed to the Board of Directors Arnold Schwarzenegger and his then-mistress, Judith Nathan. Giulaini then referred to Nathan as a "philanthropist."

Arnold used the tax-exempt "Twin Towers Fund" to help him launch his profit-making movie, "Collateral Damage," with Rudy and his entourage joining in on the gala event.

44 posted on 01/11/2008 10:11:24 AM PST by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: Calpernia
"He disputed the notion of a cash-strapped campaign..."

What B.S. When you don't make your payroll, you're in trouble.

45 posted on 01/11/2008 10:28:17 AM PST by penowa
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To: Calpernia

So I guess Hunter is the ONLY guy standing who does not give a rats ass about the enviroweenies.

46 posted on 01/11/2008 10:35:12 AM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: Calpernia

Giuli makes me ill. I don’t know how the pubbies could have honestly believed he could have won the general election.

47 posted on 01/11/2008 10:43:53 AM PST by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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To: Liz; cgbg

Thanks for the info. I don’t like hearing it though. Does he have any defense of this stuff? It seems I’ve heard him explaining away some things lately that he says are completely documented. Well, I see I need to dredge up a few threads here to find out more.

48 posted on 01/11/2008 11:30:42 AM PST by BlueHorseShoe
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To: BlueHorseShoe

>>>Well, I see I need to dredge up a few threads here to find out more.

49 posted on 01/11/2008 12:09:34 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity
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To: BlueHorseShoe
Here's Rudy Giuliani and Tex Gov Rick Perry's idea of "border security."
Perry and Giuliani used eminent domain to take US properties from taxpayers and gave
them to foreign entities. (Perry recently endorsed Giuliani's candidacy.)



NEWS STORY Bracewell & Giuliani Firm Advises Cintra in First Privatization of Toll Road in Texas
DALLAS (March 1, 2007) Bracewell & Giuliani LLP (Rudy's Texas-based law firm with global connections) advised Cintra Concesiones de Infraestructuras de Transporte, S.A., a Spanish transportation company, in its successful bid to develop State Highway 121 into a toll road through Collin and Denton counties ("trade road" is four football fields wide). The award to Cintra, approved by the Texas Transportation Commission, is the first privatization of a Texas toll road. Bracewell is acting as project counsel to Cintra with respect to the 50-year concession from the Texas Department of Transportation. Cintra will pay a $2.1 billion upfront and annual lease payments totaling $700 million. "Cintra was awarded this project because of its proven expertise and competitive proposal," said Thomas O. Moore, partner with Bracewell & Giuliani. "This is the largest transportation deal of 2007. This is one of only five deals in the country."

50 posted on 01/11/2008 12:53:32 PM PST by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: BlueHorseShoe

Rudy helps China go nuclear

Giuliani's law firm Bracewell & Giuliani (with two offices in Kazakhstan--an ex-Soviet state), said that Kazakh companies are coming of age and expanding globally; a way to shore up partners for its nuclear-related industry. Read on.

Kazakhstan, an Ex-Soviet state eyes uranium primacy
By Bonnie Pfister TRIBUNE-REVIEW Wednesday, July 11, 2007

With Giuliani's help, Westinghouse, an American company has been allowed to deliver its newest third-generation nuclear plant to China. --SNIP--

WHAT WAS THAT AGAIN? "Has been allowed"? Actually, if Rudy has his way, Americans are quite possibly going to pay for these nuclear plants to be built.

The US federal Ex-Im Bank approved up to $5 billion in loan guarantees or even direct loans for this project back in 2005, although apparently, no specific funding guarantee or allocation has yet been made. That would change if Rudy gets presidential power.

Back in June, 2007, and article from Human Events reported "Administration Poised to Subsidize China’s Nuclear Industry," --- covers the Ex-Im political situation up to that point.

In November, 2007, a technical article on Red China's nuclear power situation from the World Nuclear Association, Nuclear Power in China also mentions the funding and more detail about what contracts nuclear players are already involved in the PRC.



WHERE IS KAZAKHSTAN It is a former Soviet Union state, the only Central Asian country sharing borders with both Russia and China, and with states of nuclear-transit significance such as Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, and Kyrgyzstan.

GLOBAL STRATEGIC IMPORTANCE Kazakhstan is in the Strategic Energy Ellipse and is a member of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization with China and Russia. A focal point of influence between the West and the East.

WHAT IS KAZAKHSTAN'S MAIN INDUSTRY Kazakhstan aims to become the world’s largest producer and exporter of uranium in the next five years.

Giuliani Fund Raising Reaches Into Kazakhstan
By MARY JACOBY Wall Street Journal, September 25, 2007; Page A6

Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani’s campaign is looking for political cash this week in an unlikely place: Resource-rich Kazakhstan, where the Republican presidential front-runner’s law firm does substantial business in the often murky oil, gas and minerals industries.

A fund-raising event tomorrow in Almaty, the commercial center of the former Soviet republic, will mark the campaign’s third foray overseas for cash. Last week, Mr. Giuliani flew to London for a fund-raising luncheon where about 100 Americans living in Europe paid between $1,000 and $2,300 for a ticket — the second his campaign has held in the United Kingdom..........snip

51 posted on 01/11/2008 1:08:58 PM PST by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: BlueHorseShoe
Giuliani is involved in global investment banking, global security, and international legal representation. Giuliani companies (that we know of) include:

(1) Giuliani Capital Advisors, LLC (AKA Giuliani Partners LLC),
(2) Giuliani Group,
(3) Giuliani-Kerik (re-named Giuliani Security and Safety, after the departure of the tainted ex-Police Commissioner),
(4) Giuliani-Van Essen, and,
(5) Bracewell & Giuliani LLP law firm (based in Texas with global interests).
(6) Giuliani Security & Safety Asia

Attorneys Bracewell & Giuliani's January Closings in Kazakhstan Total US $1.625 Billion | February 22, 2007

FR Posted on 02/26/2007 by Jim Robinson

ALMATY, Kazakhstan-- LAWFUEL - Law News, US Law Firms --Bracewell & Giuliani LLP closed three cases in January for a total of US $1.625 billion, acting as international counsel for the offering of corporate debt and solidifying their place as the premier legal authority on Kazakhstani business affairs in the Caspian region. “We continue to thrive and grow in Kazakhstan, mirroring the country itself,” said Greg Vojack, managing partner for the firm's offices in Kazakhstan. “As Kazakhstan transitions into a prosperous free marketplace after the fall of Soviet Russia, its fine-tuned monetary policies are helping the country’s financial sectors grow faster than New York.” ~snip~

Established in 1994, Bracewell's presence in the Republic of Kazakhstan has helped clients capture significant opportunities in the Caspian Region. The firm's energy and finance attorneys provided groundbreaking guidance to create the legal and financial infrastructure in that emerging nation and today actively advise energy and financial companies in the region and the government of Kazakhstan. ~snip~

MORE BACKGROUND Giuliani firm has Venezuela ties | Thu, Mar. 15, 2007 | BETH REINHARD
Posted on 03/15/2007 3:26:41 AM PDT by Condor 63
The law firm headlined by presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani does business with a company tied to Venezuelan leader Hugo Chávez, who has called President Bush ``the devil.'' Bracewell & Giuliani lobbies on behalf of Texas-based Citgo Petroleum, a wholly owned subsidiary of the Venezuelan oil company controlled by Chávez. The Bush administration said last year that Venezuela was ''not cooperating fully'' with antiterrorism efforts, stopping one step short of grouping the country with state sponsors of terrorism like Iran, Syria and Cuba. Giuliani, the former New York City mayor best known for his leadership after the Sept. 11 terrorism attacks, does not personally lobby for Citgo, though he is a senior partner at the firm and shares in its profits. (Excerpt) Read more at ...

FYI: About Bracewell & Giuliani
Bracewell & Giuliani LLP is among the nation's most prominent law firms. With 400 lawyers in New York, Texas, Washington, D.C., Kazakhstan and London, we are distinctively positioned to serve clients concentrated in the energy and financial services sectors worldwide. In 2005, former New York City mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani joined the firm as a senior partner. His international reputation for leadership and problem solving is a unique asset for our clients, which include Fortune 500 companies, major financial institutions, leading private investment funds, governmental entities and individuals. For more information about Bracewell & Giuliani, visit (Excerpt) Read more at ..

52 posted on 01/11/2008 1:11:01 PM PST by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: Cicero

Best thing for Rudy to do would be to run against Spitzer, or run again for Mayor since the law is that you can’t run for more than two CONSECUTIVE terms.

53 posted on 01/11/2008 3:00:47 PM PST by Clemenza (Ronald Reagan was a "Free Traitor", Like Me ;-))
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To: Clemenza

I’d love to see Spitzer get his, I must admit.

Bloomberg hasn’t been as bad as I feared. I was expecting street crime to soar when he came in, but other than all that crazy stuff with smoking and transfats and Catholic charities required to join the culture of death, the city has stayed pretty healthy.

54 posted on 01/11/2008 4:17:51 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

Well put.

55 posted on 01/11/2008 5:54:46 PM PST by NucSubs (Rudy Giuliani 2008! Our liberal democrat is better than theirs!)
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Culture of life:

ABC clip:

George Will: “Do you think Roe v Wade was good constitutional law?”

Rudy Giuliani: “Yes I believe, I believe it is.”

Cnn Clip:

Announcer: “Giuliani was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial birth abortions, something Bush strongly supports.”

Rudy Giuliani : “No, I have not supported that, and I don’t see my position on that changing.”


CNN clip:

Announcer: “Back in 1996, mayor Giuliani went to federal court to challenge new federal laws requiring the city to inform the federal government about illegal immigrants.”

Rudy Giuliani: “There isn’t a mayor or a public official in this country that’s more strongly pro immigrant than I am. Including disagreeing with President Clinton when he signed an anti-immigration legislation about two or three years ago.”

Gun control:

CNN clip

Rudy Giuliani: “I’m in favor of gun control”

Meet The Press:

Tim Russert: “How about registration of all handguns?”

Rudy Giuliani: “You know I’m in favor of that. I’ve been on your show many times.”

Gay Rights:

CNN Clip:

Announcer: “As mayor he supported civil unions, and extending health and other benefits to gay couples.”

ABC Clip: “I supported domestic partnership legislation and signed it”

Meet The Press:

Tim Russert: “So should gay people be openly allowed to serve?”

“I think people should be judged on the merits. And there should not be a specific focus on someone’s sexual orientation.”

First Amendment:

ABC Clip

Cokie Roberts: “Would you vote in the senate in favor of Mccain / Feingold?”

Rudy Giuliani: “Yes, I’m a big supporter of Mccain / Feingold. I have been for a long time.”

Party Loyalty:

ABC Clip:

Rudy Giuliani: “Frankly George, I’d like to run on all the lines. I’d like to run on the liberal line, the conservative line, I’d like to run on the democratic line if I could figure out how to do it.”

Conservative Values:

Meet The Press:

Tim Russert: “Whether it’s gays in the military, gun control, campaign finance, late term abortion - you and Hillary Clinton are in sync on those issues.”

Rudy Giuliani: “Well then maybe the other side should stop the ‘He’s part of the vast right wing conspiracy’.”

ABC clip:

George Will: “Do you think Roe v Wade was good constitutional law?”

Rudy Giuliani: “Yes I believe, I believe it is.”
First Amendment:

ABC Clip

Cokie Roberts: “Would you vote in the senate in favor of Mccain / Feingold?”

Rudy Giuliani: “Yes, I’m a big supporter of Mccain / Feingold. I have been for a long time.”

See Rudy for yourself on YouTube -

56 posted on 01/11/2008 6:06:26 PM PST by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating!
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