Posted on 01/13/2008 5:16:11 AM PST by Man50D
The way they act, I’m beginning to think if historical circumstances were different, the founders would be taking up arms against the FT’s as insurrectionists, bent on creating a second front to divide the attentions of the real war at hand...
Don't get me started...
check out the last exchange on the “new” thread..
Its too bad, but that is the way things work in the private sector as well as in government.
Would like to know what your solution is. Stay the course?
Honestly, I think getting our financial house in order is top priority.
...and it’s easier to fix it than blow up half of washington, not that that would be so bad for many other reasons.
I totally agree. Deficit spending is a political decision that has nothing to do with the normal operation of a taxing system. One can only compare taxing schemes on the basis of how they are supposed to work without political tinkering. But fair tax supporters are making arguments that the fair tax revenues will raise and fall with decisions made by consumers (see discussion of Hamilton's analysis of consumption taxes in previous posts). Obviously, the revenue neutral policy means that fair tax revenues will not be allowed to fall no matter how much citizens cut back on consumption and of course there is nothing to prevent Congress from deficit spending even after converting to a fair tax.
"It's The Spending, Stupid!"©
In othr words, same old leaky boat that we can't row even with new oars.
There is no doubt that is true and some of them are so heavily invested in income tax that they will tell literally ANY lie in order to preserve what they see as their meal ticket.
oh joy, another pro-tax scam article from a nowhere site.
should this not still be in chat and NOT in news.
The real bill and not the BS propaganda on this entitlement program scam is at http://www.thomas.gov by searching “fair tax”
The Fair Flat Tax popus up but the one to look at is H.R. 25. That has the unspun, uncessored bill with all its incidiousness.
What the h*ll does that have to do with the FACT that Marx and Engels CLEARLY endorsed a heavy progressive income tax as one item on a list of things that would aid them and their fellow travelers in taking over developed countries?
ANYONE who doubts that they did so need only read it for themselves in the Manifesto of the Communist Party (second section toward the end).
(Typical FT/TP - Doesn’t know history, and doomed to repeat it)
It is not Fairtaxers who don't know history but those of your ilk instead!
If your knowledge of history were HALF what it should be you would know that income taxes have NEVER been well received by taxpayers and that MANY tax collectors and other public officials have lost their lives in trying to enforce them!
here they go again...
A democratic election brought Hitler to power... maybe we should throw out that idea too..
/sheesh.
Do you believe that the USA was laid out as a democracy?
The Fairtax scam is pure “from each according to their ability to each according to their need.”
It takes from producers to give to the nonproducer.
you have a MASSIVE entitlement program with FAR MORE lobbiest points than anything we have now.
The 1991 luxury tax already proved this concept a failure so now the tax scammers want to do it again but with a “great society entitlement” ON TOP of state sales and state income taxes.
It is really easy, large ticket purchases move overseas, done deal happened before will happen again. The embeded BS has already been disproven since it is NOT going to result in lower prices.
30% savings for large items like boats and cars etc means only the poor and middle class will pay taxes. it also means all new items will become “paper used” (see european car sales tax avoidance)
This does NOT eliminate the IRS, (read a union contract some time) it only RENAMES the IRS and gives them different items to audit and MORE intrusion into our day to day lives. (See the HR 25 Fair Tax Scam’s penalties for not issuing or HAVING a reciept for whatever you buy. new meaning to your papers please)
You have an intrusive tax program, you have a marxist redistribution of wealth, you have mandatory registration of government approved family units, you have mandatory registration of anyone selling or buying, you have draconian documentation requirements, the list goes on and on and yet you say THIS is not part of a communist model.
This is not an either or proposition.
the IRS is bad, the Fair Tax Scam is BAD in fact VERY VERY BAD.
go back to the drawing board and come back with something that reduces the size of government not brings back LBJ’s great society fiasco.
Do you really believe Marx had anything to do with US tax policy?
Remain ignorant and continue with your delusion. I DON'T care!
Just PLEASE don't stop helping to promote the FairTax with you lunacy.
In the real world, software has replaced much of the work of the company CPA.
bookeepers compile the data for most of the year and the tax returns are simply signed off by the CPA firm as a means of double checking the work.
Software has reduced the need CPA billings significantly.
People to keep track of the numbes will always be needed even if we went to a flat tax but technology has progressed in the bookeeping realm. It is not unlike how a word processing program has replaced the old typing pool and carbon paper.
The IRS must go but it must be a “go” which reduces the tax burden not this absurd rearrange the Titanic’s deck chairs neutral revenue generating espoused by taxscammers.
Marx himself? No as he was DEAD but the tripe he and Engels published was WIDELY adopted here and particularly so by those in the halls of academia so, by influence, YES INDEED!
You are much more seriously deluded than I even imagined..
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