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Need help! Vietnam- History channel spreading false info
History Channel | 13 January 2008 | History Channel

Posted on 01/13/2008 8:57:58 AM PST by Red6

About 11:30 Central Time (History Channel)

As my wife was sitting in our study grading papers I happened to walk in. On the TV was a show about the Vietnam war and it immediately struck me when some self proclaimed expert stated that the “Domino Theory” which was used as a justification for continuance of intervention was hand waved away and the pundit literally stated: “As we all know today, that didn’t occur.”

Excuse me? Does this guy have a clue about what happened in Cambodia? What happened in Laos? Or who attacked Thailand? Who has naval bases in Vietnam to this day? Does this expert know who was backing Pol Pot? Does he understand why Thailand (The last domino) didn't fall even though attacked? Why the largest Soviet/Russian naval base outside the Soviet Union is in Vietnam: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1964253.stm


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: containment; dominotheory; historychannel; mediabias; revisionisthistory; vietnam; vietnamwar
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To: Red6

I watch the History Channel often. Many of the programs are clearly left leaning. Hit the MUTE button & enjoy the video.

The HC knows they are lying, but many viewers don’t, so it is propaganda for the ignorant.


21 posted on 01/13/2008 9:23:05 AM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Red6
It's Revisionist History! The Soviets learned a great deal from Goebells. What is truth? What the leaders want the followers to believe.

Revision becomes easier in the Internet Age because people study History less and YouTube more!

This is why Queen Hildebeast can speak of her experience without being asked to defend the Murderous attack on the Branch Davidians in Waco! We are coming up on the 15th anniversary and no one has yet to explain how the death of all those children made our country better!!! ..and she wants to establish Universal Child Care!!

22 posted on 01/13/2008 9:23:12 AM PST by Young Werther (Julius Caesar (Quae Cum Ita Sunt. Since these things are so.))
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To: Red6

The quality of the History Channel has gone off a cliff. What once could be counted on for some “educational” programming has turned into nothing but the National Enquirer.

They used to have some very good programs (some still remain: Modern Marvels, Dogfights since canceled) but all their specials have a large political tilt (see: the Lincoln documentary they did.

Nothing surprises me anymore with the channel, they should just change their name to the Hysteria Channel. Between specials on Bigfoot, UFOs, Ice Road Truckers, movies, Martial Arts reality shows, more UFOs, and more Bigfoot. Finding a true History program on the History Channel is now rare. There was one point it was jokingly referred to as The Hitler Channel, finding any WWII programs today takes an act of Congress. It seems that the higher ups in the network are convinced the major events in human history were predicted by soothsayers and fought to protect giant UFO cover ups so the true identity of Bigfoot would not be released.

Sad to say but PBS (flame suit on) has much better history programs than the History Channel these days.


23 posted on 01/13/2008 9:24:37 AM PST by tj21807
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To: Porterville

While not a program, the book: “A Patriot’s History of the United States” by Larry Schweikart & Michael Patrick Allen is a great book that book that removes liberal bias from history.


24 posted on 01/13/2008 9:29:07 AM PST by tj21807
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To: Red6

History is so messed up now. Someone called Talk Radio last week and said that America was founded by criminals. She said that England sent the criminals to USA on the Nina, Pinta, and Santa Maria, to form a new nation. Kinda jumbled up with Australia history. The talk show host tried to set her straight. She was orininally from Denmark. But how many EU citizens believe all that crap that they are hearing SOME PLACE!?!?!?!?!


25 posted on 01/13/2008 9:31:35 AM PST by buffyt (Glowbull Warming: The Greatest Hoax Since Y 2 K !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: figgers3036
I'm just not sure what we could do to make anyone listen. After all, the History Channel hasn't ever been wrong about anything....

One of the things the History Channel was wrong about was their claim that W C Fields was filming a movie about the Los Angeles earthquake and the earthquake was caught on film because of it.

After the L.A. earthquake, W.C. Fields filmed a piece of film as a joke, making it seem like that movie crew was filming and, then, the earthquake happened.

Wherever William Claude Dukenfield is today, he would be laughing his butt off at that mistake by the History Channel.

26 posted on 01/13/2008 9:35:51 AM PST by Stepan12 ( "We are all girlymen now." Conservative reaction to Ann Coulter's anti PC joke)
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To: Red6

I’ve seen others dismiss the Domino Theory as well.

It’s one of those things that can only be explained as a liberal mental disorder.

Laos, Cambodia, and Vietnam all went down together in April 1975.


27 posted on 01/13/2008 9:36:01 AM PST by angkor ("We are not very many mistakes away from a second Holocaust." Newt Gingrich, Nov 15 2007)
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To: Mister Da
I hated the History Channel ever since they tried to market John McCain as Mr. Wonderful. I think he was a good guy back in his Navy days but he was corrupted by Washington.

History Channel pissed me off when they spent an entire Memorial Day weekend running and re-running John McCain, True American Hero (and a couple of other documentaries about him) a few years ago. McCain was catching a lot of hell from conservatives, so the History Channel took revenge on their conservative viewers by plastering his ugly mug on TV nearly 24/7 over a Memorial Day weekend.

28 posted on 01/13/2008 9:36:35 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Oh, the huge manatee!!!)
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To: reasonisfaith

Whaddya eggspect actual factual history? Or Gangland smuckumentaries?


29 posted on 01/13/2008 9:36:55 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (Why settle for RINO? The Hunter takes em all down!)
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To: Red6

Tell them what you think.

http://boards.historychannel.com/index.jspa


30 posted on 01/13/2008 9:39:10 AM PST by Vision (Thompson/Hunter '08)
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To: Young Werther
and she wants to establish Universal Child Care!!

Let them eat tanks and flamethrowers!

31 posted on 01/13/2008 9:40:02 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (Why settle for RINO? The Hunter takes em all down!)
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To: Red6
Does the History channel not fact-check anything, or if blatantly false information is presented do they correct it or follow up with a caveat at the end of the show? Or is the History Channel about more politically correct versions of the truth?

Well, they often do give differing opinions, and if you only hear part of a program, one "expert" verses the other, you can get the wrong impression. But even on the straight documentaries, they do get things wrong, although I certainly don't catch them very often.

In general though, aside from a tendency to editorialize when not appropriate, they generally are pretty good. Especially the "tech" shows, be they military or otherwise. From time to time they show episodes of a show called "Tales of the Gun", which usually feature an NRA expert, curator of the NRA museum, I think. Their "Dogfights" is also good and seems accurate.

32 posted on 01/13/2008 9:41:25 AM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Red6

The History Channel is a joke - a while back they were advertising a series on The Battle of New Orleans and in the background they were playing “Dixie” ... Dixie wasn’t written until 1859 .... the Battle of New Orleans took place in 1810 or there abouts ....


33 posted on 01/13/2008 9:45:39 AM PST by SkyDancer ("There is no distinctly Native American criminal class...save Congress - Mark Twain")
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To: Vision

The mods at the History Channel Board delete posts that they disagree with, meaning any criticism.


34 posted on 01/13/2008 9:47:51 AM PST by tj21807
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To: Red6

I did not see the program; however, it depends on what is meant by the domino theory. I teach American history and Cold War chronolgy reflects several different foreign policy approaches beginning with Kennan’s containment, the Truman doctrine etc. The domino theory did presuppose monolithic communist agression with the key word here being “monolithic” and a (wrong) assumption that communism was united in its opposition to the United States and its allies. That this united opposition was manifest in the falling of nations to communism like a “line of dominoes” was proven wrong as seen in often chilly relations between the Soviet Union and Communist China, China and Vietnam etc. Cold War communism is now viewed a something less than monolithic and its “wars of liberation” more a reflection of nationalistic impetus than a communist conspiracy and a domino theory. So in that regard, the statement on the History channel may not have been too far removed from historical validity.


35 posted on 01/13/2008 9:47:56 AM PST by yetidog
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To: Red6
What was probably on, according to the listing I checked, was their "Reel to Real" series. Where they show a Hollywierd Movie, and then discuss how it is like the real event and how it is different. The featured movie was "Good Morning Vietnam". I'm sure at least one of their commentators, they usually have at least two, was a leftie. The Vietnam war is one of the areas where they often stray from "real" History and into the "Reel" as in Hollywierd version.

At least Robin Williams, the star of "Good Morning Vietnam" has been in the sandbox, both this go round and the last, IIRC, entertaining the troops, and not just at the big (and safer) bases either.

36 posted on 01/13/2008 9:48:24 AM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Red6
On the TV was a show about the Vietnam war and it immediately struck
me when some self proclaimed expert stated that the
“Domino Theory” which was used as a justification for continuance
of intervention was hand waved away and the pundit literally stated:
“As we all know today, that didn’t occur.”


What show/series was this on?
When did it air (approx)?

I just want to see/hear it if/when it gets aired again.
And to learn just who the pencil-necked-geek "expert" is.

Thanks in advance
37 posted on 01/13/2008 9:48:51 AM PST by VOA
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To: 3AngelaD
Who wrote it? Who produced it? Who paid for it to be made?

In this case, they did. It was "Reel to Real", where they show a Hollywood movie, and discus it and the real world events it portrays.

38 posted on 01/13/2008 9:50:15 AM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Red6
Historians through out this country are notorious leftists, and I found this out the hard way. Some years back, I was using my Vietnam era G.I. Bill to finish up a B.A. Degree and noticed I needed a few History credits to round out the semester. A course titled “History of the Vietnam War” was available and I thought it would be “easy” credit as I had been there and done that.

Boy, was I wrong, and I didn’t realize it until the Professor introduced himself at the beginning of the course and proudly boasted he was a draft dodger during the Vietnam War, had ran away to Canada, received a degree in History of the British Empire, Jimmy Carter pardoned him in 1978, and he returned to the U.S. to teach history.

As we all know, the only way you can get through college is to give the professor what he wants to hear, but I’ll be damned if I could do that and it almost caused me to fail the course. Every time this professor spouted something like, “The Domino Theory was false, or the 1968 Tet Offensive was a great communist victory, etc, etc,” I openly challenged him. To have to sit there quietly as this draft dodger spouted untruths about the Vietnam War was more than I could force myself to do.

What we now see on the History Channel and most of the other “educational channels” are only products of our leftist dominated institutions of higher learning. It was once said that the victorious are the ones who get to write the history of a conflict, but that is no more. Now, sadly, it is the ones who run away and hide who get to write the history of what took place.

39 posted on 01/13/2008 9:50:44 AM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: Red6

I think the justification to most libs for dismissing the domino theory is that communism didn’t ultimately show up on our doorstep, which was originally part of the concern. It did sweep through southeast Asia, however, killing 3 or 4 million after we fled Vietnam, which the mainstream media promptly ignored. See any similarities between that and what the libs want for Iraq?


40 posted on 01/13/2008 9:54:31 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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