Posted on 01/14/2008 10:02:11 AM PST by DFG
I take second place to no one in my admiration for George W. Bush. But there are times when he comes out with something so obtuse, so ill thought out, that it simply grates on the brain. Remarks of the "I have gazed into Putin's soul" variety. (I gazed into Putin's soul too. I needed two weeks of electroshock to straighten me out afterward.)
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
Why would any President publicly call into question wartime strategies of a war that ended 60 years ago, a world-wide conflagration that we won in just four years, by the way? How do you argue with such enormous success? If he would have questioned Patton, MacArthur and Eisenhower, one wonders how many good generals may have been ignored in this war as well, including General Colin Powell? I honestly feel insulted by what he said, and I stand by my country's WWII record 100%.
Oh well, when Hitler's unsurpassed military juggernaut and Hirohitos fanatic warriors are not killing millions of your and your allies' best men, and when 1/3rd of your Navy is not resting on the bottom of the sea at Pearl Harbor, and 70,000 of your troops have not been captured in the South Pacific, I suppose it's quite easy to make such a proud, ignorant remark.
All that aside, I'm sure you would freely question the pre-war strategies and decisions of all of the Allies, with regard to both Japan and Germany; and I'm sure you would freely question the post-war strategies and decisions of several presidents, with respect to Red China and the USSR.
What is it, specifically, about this one comment that has got you so upset?
By knocking out these points the Allies accomplished both slowing down the Nazi war machine and interfering with death trains to Auschwitz etc.
And when they missed the intended target,given the accuracy of carpet bombing, destroying whole cities(and Germans citizens). A miss near Auschwitz would have only killed a bunch of Polish cows
And do not forget the Nazis would responded by having the interned surrounding vital war industries the Germans knew the Allies would eventually bomb. Goebbels would have made a field day out of blaming the Allies for the resulting deaths of innocent "civilian " workers.(think of Saddam and the baby milk factory)
Enough people would have been gullible to believed him.
Even if FDR approved the bombing some people would be still second guessing him as to how many people died BECAUSE of the bombing the death camps, giving the communists another propaganda talking point on how evil the West is.
As for Bush judging what a fellow president should have done during wartime, he should think twice and then a third time before he opens his mouth.
If Iran develops and then uses a nuclear device to kill millions in another useless war, History will be judging him instead of FDR as faulty in who should have bombed what.
STOP THIS!! Please read what actually happened.....he said we should have bombed the RAILROAD TRACKS! Not the Camp.....it went from Hebrew to English to Hebrew to English. Rice cleared this up days ago!
Please do some research....it was to bomb the rail lines. Good grief....even Clinton wouldn’t say to bomb the camp.
And, Bush is starting to speak out his excretory orifice more and more.
These dorks are happy in their ignorance. Even one idiot up there trying to bring up Bush’s Vietnam era service record and some how relate it to this.
Alright Ann, I’ll take your word for it, but if you think the word of Rice has some overshaddowing credibility here, I’ll have to remind you of her constant comments on Israel vs the Palestinians. She’s on a very short leash from here.
I’m not convinced there’s much more we could have done to help those prisoners but liberate them.
I appreciate the response.
Attacks on the camps would've done nothing to shorten the war. Every bomb dropped on Dachau would've been a bomb not dropped on ball bearing plants, synthetic fuel plants, aircraft factories or steel mills.
By ending the war even a month earlier, how many of those in the camps were saved?
Bush's statement also inadvertently slanders FDR, Ike, Hap Arnold, etc., by suggesting they should've done something that was not supported by the information they had to work with or the objectives they were sworn to achieve. It's armchair quarterbacking of the worst kind.
Indeed, with perfect hindsight, it's kinda like blaming the Bush administration for invading Iraq because there were no WMDs...
TRULY......Bush would NEVER want to bomb the camp....that reeks of Janet Reno burning down WACO to save the children!!! Come on...I know you don’t like Bush....not sure I do either much anymore, but really........
RAIL LINES...R A I L L I N E S!!! HUGE diff, OKIE.
Ann, I commented on what was stated in the article. If Bush did address the rail line, I think that was an appropriate comment. I don’t really have an axe to grind aginst Bush that wreaks of inaccuracy or unfairness. I have seen Bush make some blunders. Perhaps this wasn’t one of them. I am willing to accept that if true.
No, I’m not a big fan of Bush, but then I don’t really want to damn him unfairly, despite what some people think. I call them like I see them and I’m sure I miss the target from time to time.
Thanks for the additional comments.
He did...it was cleared up, but I can’t find the thread....maybe it was the one with all the pictures of Israel.
A Day in the Life...posted on 1/11/08 and look at reply # 15....sorry I don;t know how to do a link.
I'm afraid I don't understand. What rail lines? As opposed to what?
Thank you Ann. I appreciate our attention to this issue, and I will retract my comments on what was reported as the president’s comments. I’m sorry there was a misunderstanding.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1952389/posts?page=15#15
The RAIL LINES going to the Camps that carried all the Jews to be slaughtered in the camps.....the trains carried the Jews to the camps...if the RAILS had been bombed not so many would have been able to be transported so easily.
THANKS!! I like TRUTH...as I see you do also!!
I don’t have a problem with the truth, unless that truth means we’re going to nominate a liberal who is registered as a republican.
Take care Ann.
The person who best understands the situation faced by commanders in another era is not the present Commander-in-Chief but military historians.
Bush's suggestion is on the level of wondering why Robert E. Lee did not drop the Confederate 101st Airborne Division behind Little Round Top.
There have been many posts on this thread which have explained why diverting the 1940's era Eighth Air Force to such targets would have been ineffective in the goal of stopping the extermination of the Jews and that sacrificing those bomber crews with missions at the extreme of their operational range would have prolonged the war by giving much needed relief to the German war industry and German military targets.
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