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These people just "loath the military" don't they?
1 posted on 01/14/2008 3:02:14 PM PST by Mobile Vulgus
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These people just "loath the military" don't they?

they loath everything and everyone, beginning with themselves.

2 posted on 01/14/2008 3:03:19 PM PST by the invisib1e hand
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The Marine murder story inspired them to create some news of a “wider trend.”

I am sure journalism schools and watchdogs like the Poynter Institute will cry foul on it.

Not.


3 posted on 01/14/2008 3:04:21 PM PST by hemogoblin (Islam -- it's all the rage)
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So, why the focus on vets that turn into murderers, NYTimes?

It's an election year, and the incumbent Commander-in-Chief is a Republican. Seems obvious to me.

4 posted on 01/14/2008 3:06:33 PM PST by newgeezer (Amendment XIX was passed and ratified by spineless, self-serving men.)
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One tremendous pool for the best law enforcement officers we could get! Lessons learned character folks. How golden!


5 posted on 01/14/2008 3:07:15 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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I saw this story on the front page of the slimes while on line at Starbucks yesterday. My first thought was, "what is the ratio of these incidents involving former military versus the civilian population?

Someone did the math and again, expose the Slimes for what they are, shills for America's enemies.

6 posted on 01/14/2008 3:07:17 PM PST by lormand (Paultards - The Hemorrhoids of American Politics)
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Don’t attempt to be rational.

PTSD, like Depleted Uranium or any other false causes are nothing more than slogans they carry on a sign hanging on their back. They are not concerned with the truth nor the Vet, they simply see this as another angle of attack.

7 posted on 01/14/2008 3:08:02 PM PST by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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Looks like MAF got involved, too!


8 posted on 01/14/2008 3:08:03 PM PST by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Cousin, Mom and FRiend)
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Thirteen threads, still alive in blogland and dead for several days in MSM.


9 posted on 01/14/2008 3:08:29 PM PST by RightWhale (Dean Koonz is good, but my favorite authors are Dun and Bradstreet)
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This photo is very touching.

10 posted on 01/14/2008 3:08:33 PM PST by lormand (Paultards - The Hemorrhoids of American Politics)
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returning military vets cannot successfully reintegrate back into their communities and into "normal lives"

Of course not, "normal lives" for NYT are cocaine addicted homosexuals.

11 posted on 01/14/2008 3:08:46 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (ETERNAL SHAME on the Treasonous and Immoral Democrats!)
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Yet not a liberal voice in defense of the 50 million plus murdered, USA aborted babies in the name of Choice.


12 posted on 01/14/2008 3:10:20 PM PST by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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Everyone knows that widespread tobacco use destroyed this nation 168 years ago, or did they forget? Sh-theads


13 posted on 01/14/2008 3:13:59 PM PST by Waco
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also debunked with stats here:
http://www.antimedia.us/posts/1200191106.shtml

“What is so much incredibly worse about this story, however, is not the bias and not the predetermined outcome. It’s the blatant disregard for the facts, which fly in the face of this story and destroy the myth of US soldier as war-haunted homicidal maniac.
From the October 1, 2001 start of the Afghanistan war, that’s about 26,000 troops/month. To date (Jan 2008) that would give about 1.99 million.

That means that the NY Times 121 murders represent about a 7.08/100,000 rate.

Now the numbers on deployed troops are probably high - fewer troops from 2001 - 2003; I’d love a better number if someone has it.

But for initial purposes, let’s call the rate 10/100,000, about 40% higher than the calculated one.

Now, how does that compare with the population as a whole?

Turning to the DoJ statistics, we see that the US offender rate for homicide in the 18 - 24 yo range is 26.5/100,000.For 25 - 34, it’s 13.5/100,000.
In other words, the homicide rate for returning military personnel is dramatically lower — one-half to less than one-third as much as the general population. The entire thesis of the story is not only false but portrays the exact opposite of the truth!”


14 posted on 01/14/2008 3:17:03 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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"To recap, veteran murder rates put them at 1.34 incidents per 100,000 vets and the general population sees that statistic at 7.67 per 100,000."


15 posted on 01/14/2008 3:17:22 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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The Times is just showing the Kool-aid drinkers that there’s another generation of soldiers to urinate on.


16 posted on 01/14/2008 3:17:38 PM PST by digger48 (http://prorev.com/legacy.htm)
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The irony is that it’s the NYT who wants to bring these “murderers” home.

Of course, that stands to reason... They want to empty the jails too.


19 posted on 01/14/2008 3:28:08 PM PST by Brilliant
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"Everything is multicausational, of course,” Dr. Lifton continued. “But combat, especially in a counterinsurgency war, is such a powerful experience that to discount it would be artificial."

Lifton is co-editor of a new book titled “Crimes of War: Iraq.” The book is being published 35 years after Lifton and the same editorial team published the landmark book “Crimes of War” about Vietnam.

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Dr. Robert Jay Lifton, a psychiatrist and historian who is the director of the Center on Violence and Human Survival at John Jay College in Manhattan.

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The 2005 lecture was delivered by Dr. Robert Jay Lifton on “America and the Human Future: Surviving Vietnam, 9/11, and Iraq.”

20 posted on 01/14/2008 3:35:49 PM PST by kcvl
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Veterans returning from war are never the same - some for the worse and some better. One thing for sure, most combat veterans can seperate the s—t from Shinola. They can apperciate the realities of life and find phoneys intolerable. In that respect, they find it difficult to live with meaningless liberalism.


21 posted on 01/14/2008 3:52:19 PM PST by caisson71
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Isn't this a replay of the media during Viet Nam?

IRAQ.....MUST....BE....BUSH'S....VIET NAM.....

It' all they know; it's the only template.

22 posted on 01/14/2008 3:53:45 PM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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It isn’t that the NYT got caught - again - it’s that they got caught so easily. Doesn’t anybody at that newspaper do any fact checking anymore?


24 posted on 01/14/2008 4:13:43 PM PST by Billthedrill
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