Posted on 01/15/2008 9:12:08 PM PST by advance_copy
For an hour Monday, Rudolph W. Giuliani passionately made his case to voters seated in the Shell Point retirement community chapel.
He talked of tax cuts and terrorist attacks, of building up the military and cracking down on illegal immigration.
But in the end, he didn't seem to close the deal.
Dozens of the more than 1,000 who attended the town hall event took off before Giuliani finished his speech, leaving rows of seats empty.
"I didn't hear anything I hadn't heard before," said Barbara Vitello, 71. "It's the first time ever I'm going into the [presidential] election not knowing who I'll vote for," she said.
Her 79-year-old husband, Joe, agreed.
(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...
Boy, he’s sounding truly pathetic.
Boy, he’s sounding truly pathetic.
Niters Ruti.
There’s a real opening for Fred in Florida if he cinches South Carolina.
Rudy is the biggest flop since Ryan Leaf.
Probably because his supporters voted for Romney to stop McCain.
Back to Nu Yerk Rudi.
There’s still plenty of time for Romney to pull off an upset.
I kind of miss the dear old days of Rudy bashing....:(
Rudy is not on a roll.
LOL I wonder what they even talk about over at WideAwakes--given Rudy's 'Howard Deanesque' total collapse in the national polls?? (no scream even required)
I don’t trust the L.A. Times’ facts, let alone their opinion pieces disguised as news pieces.
“Culture of life:
ABC clip:
George Will: “Do you think Roe v Wade was good constitutional law?”
Rudy Giuliani: “Yes I believe, I believe it is.”
Cnn Clip:
Announcer: “Giuliani was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial birth abortions, something Bush strongly supports.”
Rudy Giuliani : “No, I have not supported that, and I don’t see my position on that changing.”
Immigration
CNN clip:
Announcer: “Back in 1996, mayor Giuliani went to federal court to challenge new federal laws requiring the city to inform the federal government about illegal immigrants.”
Rudy Giuliani: “There isn’t a mayor or a public official in this country that’s more strongly pro immigrant than I am. Including disagreeing with President Clinton when he signed an anti-immigration legislation about two or three years ago.”
Gun control:
CNN clip
Rudy Giuliani: “I’m in favor of gun control”
Meet The Press:
Tim Russert: “How about registration of all handguns?”
Rudy Giuliani: “You know I’m in favor of that. I’ve been on your show many times.”
Gay Rights:
CNN Clip:
Announcer: “As mayor he supported civil unions, and extending health and other benefits to gay couples.”
ABC Clip: “I supported domestic partnership legislation and signed it”
Meet The Press:
Tim Russert: “So should gay people be openly allowed to serve?”
“I think people should be judged on the merits. And there should not be a specific focus on someone’s sexual orientation.”
First Amendment:
ABC Clip
Cokie Roberts: “Would you vote in the senate in favor of Mccain / Feingold?”
Rudy Giuliani: “Yes, I’m a big supporter of Mccain / Feingold. I have been for a long time.”
Party Loyalty:
ABC Clip:
Rudy Giuliani: “Frankly George, I’d like to run on all the lines. I’d like to run on the liberal line, the conservative line, I’d like to run on the democratic line if I could figure out how to do it.”
Conservative Values:
Meet The Press:
Tim Russert: “Whether it’s gays in the military, gun control, campaign finance, late term abortion - you and Hillary Clinton are in sync on those issues.”
Rudy Giuliani: “Well then maybe the other side should stop the ‘He’s part of the vast right wing conspiracy’.”
....
CNN clip:
Announcer: “Back in 1996, mayor Giuliani went to federal court to challenge new federal laws requiring the city to inform the federal government about illegal immigrants.”
Rudy Giuliani: “There isn’t a mayor or a public official in this country that’s more strongly pro immigrant than I am. Including disagreeing with President Clinton when he signed an anti-immigration legislation about two or three years ago.”’
See Rudy for yourself on YouTube - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM
Yea, so did Fred, with 4%. Pathetic.
I doubt Rush wants Rudy to win.
Rudy causes huge heartburn to prolifers. In some ways, he’s a flawed candidate just like Huckabee is, just like McCain is. They have some good positions, but they also have things that just go too far against what the Reagan coalition stands for.
We can keep the coalition together, but only if we stick to either Romney or Thompson. Rudy, McCain and Huckabee are too much at odds with the party on key issues.
Everyone kept saying he was the only one who could beat Hillary - maybe he should have run as a Democrat.
Assuming, arguendo, Rudy is the nominee, the question becomes do the moderate Republicans and conservative Democrats he attracts at the margin outweigh the Conservative Republicans he blows away? I do not know the answer to that now, but that’s the problem with Rudy.
So we have to nominate the most non-conservative candidate in the race to save the conservative movement.
Yea, that’s the ticket!
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