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Hillary's Spiritual Formation (book excerpt)
Christianity (Astray) Today ^ | 12/11/07 | Paul Kengor

Posted on 01/16/2008 4:11:49 PM PST by Terriergal

For much of Hillary's youth, [her father] Hugh was the only male influence on her life that had any real bearing. Her views, her political ideas, her religion—all this was filtered through Hugh, as he helped shape her sense of the world and her sense of self. But all that changed dramatically when she was thirteen, and the Reverend Don Jones, a Methodist minister, entered her life.

She began dropping by Jones's office after school or during summer afternoons, eager to talk about ideas or insights she culled from the youth minister and his sermons. According to Roger Morris, biographer of the Clintons, Jones had her read Tillich, Niebuhr, Soren Kierkegaard, and Dietrich Bonhoeffer, and they had lengthy, increasingly serious discussions. "She was curious," says Jones. "She was just insatiable."

Jones took from Hillary's study of his good works, adding this important insight: "She is very much the sort of Christian who understands that the use of power to achieve social good is legitimate."

(Excerpt) Read more at christianitytoday.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: alinsky; dncfalseprophets; election; evil; hillary; hillaryandgod; newage; religiousleft; spiritualformation; umc
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To: gitmo

but by men?


21 posted on 01/16/2008 7:32:25 PM PST by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Terriergal
In January 1963, Hillary Rodham went with her youth minister into Chicago to hear a southern black minister who was seen as a dangerous "rabble-rouser" by the middle-class white society of Park Ridge: Martin Luther King Jr.

Hillary was 15. The minister, Don Jones, did not ask permission from the parents of the 20 children he shepherded, and Hillary probably did not dare ask her father, who surely would have seen such a trip as going over the wall. "I wanted them to become aware of the social revolution that was taking place," says Jones. "Here was the major leader of that movement, a Protestant preacher, coming to town. It was an opportunity for them to meet a great person."

From the book Hillary's Choice by Gail Sheehy. Copyright 1999 by G. Merritt Corporation. Reprinted with permission of Random House Inc.

Quite a guy, this fellow Jones. More stuff about Jones.

22 posted on 01/16/2008 7:33:36 PM PST by pjsbro
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To: Old Professer
Social good is like pudding; you have to be outside the bowl to see it.

Uh... That one is going right over my head.

23 posted on 01/16/2008 7:33:49 PM PST by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: ModelBreaker

Ya think???!

:-)


24 posted on 01/16/2008 7:34:33 PM PST by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: ModelBreaker

I just escaped a denomination that teaches ‘spiritual formation.’


25 posted on 01/16/2008 7:35:05 PM PST by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Terriergal

I wonder what kind of ‘pastor’ considers defending partial birth infanticide as ‘social good’? God have mercy upon us ...


26 posted on 01/16/2008 7:35:29 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: RipSawyer
Well, it is not impossible, I am personally acquainted with one thirteen year old MAN who looks at first glance to be at least eighteen and acts more mature than most 30 year olds I know.

yes... does he remind you of Hillary Clinton in any way>?

27 posted on 01/16/2008 7:36:29 PM PST by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: RipSawyer
Well, it is not impossible, I am personally acquainted with one thirteen year old MAN who looks at first glance to be at least eighteen and acts more mature than most 30 year olds I know.

I'm personally married to one who was like that, too... but he ain't no liberal.

28 posted on 01/16/2008 7:36:54 PM PST by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Terriergal

As a minister, maybe one of the “Ten Commandments” should have taken greater hold in guiding her political career.

THOU SHALL NOT COVET THY NEIGHBOR’S GOODS

Seems when she talks about taking things from us for the common good that she looked over that pesky little Commandment of God’s. :-)


29 posted on 01/16/2008 7:37:27 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Allan

fya


30 posted on 01/16/2008 7:38:59 PM PST by ARridgerunner
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To: Max Friedman
You forgot Jim Wallis

31 posted on 01/16/2008 7:39:06 PM PST by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Terriergal
Reading Kierkegaard at 13?

Uh huh.

32 posted on 01/16/2008 7:39:09 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (Don't taze me, bro!!)
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To: A CA Guy

Oh no she’s not coveting them for herself, it’s for the children!!


33 posted on 01/16/2008 7:43:44 PM PST by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

She’s smart remember... ;-)


34 posted on 01/16/2008 7:45:41 PM PST by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

Or shall I say “she’s smarter than the rest of us peons, remember?” ;-)


35 posted on 01/16/2008 7:46:06 PM PST by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Terriergal
If it’s for the Children, then she had better steer clear of that other one of the pesky Ten Commandments.

Thou Shall NOT Have Strange God’s Before ME!

She’s is helping push moral relativism, humanism and the religion of environmentalism through social engineering in public schools...for the children.

36 posted on 01/16/2008 7:48:15 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Terriergal
Has her holiness begun carrying a 10-pound Bible under her arm at campaign stops yet?

Leni

37 posted on 01/16/2008 7:50:46 PM PST by MinuteGal (Watch For a New Freepathon Contest Announcement this Weekend! You Win and FR Wins!)
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To: Terriergal

yes... does he remind you of Hillary Clinton in any way>?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

No, he reminds me of a rare creature, a totally sincere preacher, which he probably will be in a few years.


38 posted on 01/17/2008 3:05:04 AM PST by RipSawyer (Does anyone still believe this is a free country?)
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To: Terriergal

but he ain’t no liberal.

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The fellow I know ain’t no liberal, either.


39 posted on 01/17/2008 3:06:56 AM PST by RipSawyer (Does anyone still believe this is a free country?)
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To: vpintheak
"Give to the state what is the states, but give willingly"

If my memory is working, it is: "Why do you trouble me with such things? Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's; Render unto the Lord that which is his."

40 posted on 01/17/2008 4:05:26 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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