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1 posted on 01/16/2008 7:53:39 PM PST by Tramonto
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Are you kidding?

BTW, Rush has all but flat out endorsed Fred.


2 posted on 01/16/2008 7:57:07 PM PST by diverteach (http://foolishpleasurestudio.com/eyewool/slap_hillary.html)
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Thompson is the best, Rudy is the worst IMO.

Could care less about what Ann Coulter said about anyone.

I read her, most of the time she makes me laugh, she is often funny and she makes some great points.

She is not my god.
I will investigate my OWN as to who I will pick in the primaries. If I read Ann’s stuff, I will take some of what she says into account if it made sense and wasn’t meant as a joke to just make you think.
I believe she writes for many purposes and that you can’t always read what she says like gospel. Sometimes she wants to flame and so forth to just get a reaction IMO.

3 posted on 01/16/2008 7:57:54 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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Thompson/Giuliani 2016, they’re not losing, they’re just pacing themselves.
4 posted on 01/16/2008 7:57:57 PM PST by jpf
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You are hitting a LOT of nails on the head... but especially this one:

“’I am one who has thought that there is a concerted effort by the ‘conservative’ media to get Mitt Romney elected. “


6 posted on 01/16/2008 7:59:19 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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Giuliani? Are you fricking insane? You should get a half-zot for even mentioning 911 Rudy in the same breath as conservatism.


7 posted on 01/16/2008 8:00:04 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (GIANT SUCKING SOUND AT LAMBEAU FIELD)
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Rudolph William Louis Giuliani
Michael Dale Huckabee
John Sidney McCain III
Ronald Ernest Paul
Willard Mitt Romney

The above are not conservative and it will be a shame
if the states that will go to the democrats have a say
on who gets the Republican nomination!


8 posted on 01/16/2008 8:00:20 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rudy,Romney,McCain, Huckabee will send a self-abused stomped elephant to the DRNC.)
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Back in November and December, I don't remember ever hearing good things about Thompson on the radio.

Levin has been pro Thompson going back to the summer.

9 posted on 01/16/2008 8:00:42 PM PST by FreeReign
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Rudy is not a conservative. His candidacy has been promoted by an elitists, what I call the Log Cabin Wall Street Journal Country Club for Growth poofs. Rudy has promised some of these guys that they won't have to pay any taxes if he gets elected and that's ALL they care about. These poofs are weak on national security (see if you can find any veterans in their midst) and even weaker on social values issues such as marriage and abortion (issues they have no opinion about).

These elitist poofs should not be underestimated because they have enormous resources in the media. That's why we've seen Fox News pushing Rudy for over a year now.

10 posted on 01/16/2008 8:01:06 PM PST by tear gas (Because of the 22nd Amendment, we are losing President. Bush. Can we afford to lose him now?)
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Giuliani believes it is OK to murder 3000 innocent Americans each and every day

Conservatives believe in "Life, liberty and the pursuit of...."

Giuliani is no Conservative !


12 posted on 01/16/2008 8:01:53 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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Thompson is the true conservative!


13 posted on 01/16/2008 8:02:05 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Historically, Freepers have always been wrong.

When I try to predict who our next President will be, I study who has the least support.

Remember, in 1999 many Freepers were banned because they supported Bush and most Freepers were against him at that time.

Anyone remember Trixie and why there was a major split between Freepers?

Thompson vs Obama is what I hope for, but that will probably not happen.

14 posted on 01/16/2008 8:03:07 PM PST by Hunble
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15 posted on 01/16/2008 8:03:21 PM PST by Petronski ("Make all the promises you have to." --Slick Willard, 9 Jan 08)
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My question for all of you is what did anyone in the ‘conservative’ media say or do to defend Fred Thompson when Anne Coulter attacked him and called him Fred Sawyer?

Nothing. Did not even know about it. If I had known about it I would have said, so?

BTW Rudy is not a conservative.

16 posted on 01/16/2008 8:03:37 PM PST by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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The whole premise of this vanity is nuts.

Rush has all but endorsed FRed.

FRed and Duncan are the ONLY conservatives in this race.

Mitt - flip-flopper, especially on abortion.

Rudy - gun grabber, sanctuary city mayor, cross-dresser

McManiac - never met a criminal alien he didn’t like, McCain-Feingold, Gang of 14, Lindsey Graham lover.


19 posted on 01/16/2008 8:07:14 PM PST by upchuck (Attention Senator Clinton: Lying Is Stupid When The Truth Is So Easy To Find)
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Why is it that almost every FReeper disagrees with Rush, Sean, Levin,.. that Giuliani would be a good candidate?

They've all been paid off. Elections are nothing but a big media buy.
22 posted on 01/16/2008 8:11:23 PM PST by billybudd
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I love first name basis. Rudy, your pall ain’t conservative. Arnold is more conservative than that RINO.

• Abortion = fails
• Immigration = fails
• Gays = fails
• Fiscal restraint = fails
• Second amendment = fails

But........ he’s the hero of 911, and would be strong on defense! Got it. Rudy is a one hit wonder, national security. His entire focus is on this singular issue because if you look anywhere else you won’t like what you see. He’s a conservative in NYC, the rest of the nation doesn’t see him as conservative.


23 posted on 01/16/2008 8:11:54 PM PST by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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First, Ann, long ago, condemned the idea of Rudy. Ann isn't part of this equation.

Second, Rush doesn't endorse anyone, though I think he's given up Fred for Dead and supports Romney.

Third, the talk radio guys are not going to endorse anyone (or come out too strongly against anyone) because that means they loose audience and guests. This doesn't apply to Rush because he has more money than God and a bigger audience, too. But it does apply to most all the other guys. That's why you won't hear Laura Ingraham or Hannity come out strongly against them. They will loose audience and loose those candidates as guests.

26 posted on 01/16/2008 8:12:56 PM PST by mbraynard (Fred Thompson: Running a Strong Second to Dennis Kucinich (3,845 versus 2,808 in NH))
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You may have been born here on Christmas but you won’t find many FReepers who will consider your message divine.


28 posted on 01/16/2008 8:16:08 PM PST by RGSpincich
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FR is about the only place I have encountered that does not recognize conservatism’s three basic types: economic, national security, and social. Those who are not so-cons are derided as liberals no matter how conservative they are fiscally and on national security. Why this is I have no idea; so-con leaders like Tony Perkins and Gary Bauer make the distinction all the time.

Fred is conservative on all three counts which explains why so many FReepers prefer him. Rudy is conservative on two (fiscal & national security) but liberal on social issues.

I don’t know what to make of Mitt because I believe his positions are crafted to the moment. As for the perceived effort to “get him elected” I say fat chance. Here are the latest poll numbers from Hotline.

Hotline Head-to-Heads
McCain 47, Clinton 43
Clinton 49, Romney 37
Obama 41, McCain 39
Obama 56, Romney 26


30 posted on 01/16/2008 8:20:24 PM PST by freespirited (Still a proud member of the Stupid Party. It beats the Evil Party any day of the week.)
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Rush says Giuliani, Romney and Thompson are the "true conservatives" (Jan 11, 2008):

Drive-Bys Push McCain, Huckabee; Aim to Disqualify Fred, Mitt, Rudy

BEGIN TRANSCRIPT RUSH: Let me just tell you what's happening. It is absurd and you're going to have to really gut it up here because the Drive-By Media is doing everything it can to disqualify the true conservatives on the Republican side. They're saying, "Romney, he can't win. If he loses Michigan, he's done." They said that about Romney in Iowa, they said that about Romney in New Hampshire. Now Fred Thompson apparently scored. Did you watch it last night, Mr. Snerdley? Fred Thompson was just fabulous, and people said, "Where has this been? All of this time, where's this been?" And I can't answer that, but now the Drive-Bys are saying, "Well, yeah, he was pretty good last night, but it's too late." We've had two states! It's too late for Fred Thompson? And, of course, "Rudy, why, he's lost all of his momentum, Rudy's out of it."

So if you listen to the Drive-Bys, and these people that got it all wrong in New Hampshire, what we're being told is that the only two candidates left that have any chance whatsoever are McCain and Huckabee, which is exactly what the Drive-Bys want. They want a liberal, moderate nominee, and even a liberal, moderate vice presidential nominee because they know, or they think, that whoever the Democrat nominee is can smoke -- they don't want a conservative nominee on the Republican side. Obviously. The Drive-Bys will always tell you, folks, who is a conservative and who isn't by virtue of who they try to destroy and by virtue of who they try to prop up. And right now they're trying to prop up McCain, trying to prop up Huckabee. Last night, Thompson went after Huckabee big time, which is cool. He's gotta go after McCain, too. Now, I've been told that Thompson and McCain are good friends and that Thompson is a little bit reluctant to go after McCain. I think one of the reasons here is everybody hates Romney, apparently. A lot of these Republicans just despise Romney. They're trying to take him out so that they can move on to others.

If you go back to Iowa, somebody leaked the news, it was false, that Fred was going to get out of the race if he lost Iowa and endorse McCain. It turned out to be totally untrue. Now, who would leak that? Who would possibly leak that? Could it have been somebody in the McCain camp? And, if it was, and if Fred knows that, then they've gotta be pretty livid. Fred, if he wants to get back in this thing seriously, he's going to have to go after all these guys. I know the thinking might be, "Well, we gotta go after Huckabee first because of South Carolina and we're looking for the same voters that Huckabee is looking for there." The proclaimed front-runner, even though he's not because he doesn't have the delegate lead right now, McCain, nobody laid a glove on him last night. I think what it is with McCain is, let's be polite to the old guy, and I think it's a POW/MIA thing. I think it's the war hero thing, and that sort of provides a little boundary and a wall here that people don't want to scale. I got an e-mail from a subscriber..., "Rush, I keep hearing that Thompson was so great last night, but that he got started too late." She says, "Thompson is great. Late into the race, yeah. My husband also comes in late sometimes, and we're still married." (laughing)


31 posted on 01/16/2008 8:21:14 PM PST by Ooh-Ah
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