NV: Bill Clinton, Stumping and Simmering

The New York Times ^ | January 18, 2008 | PATRICK HEALY

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Hillary Rodham Clinton may be the spouse running for office, but it is more Bill Clinton who appears to be feeling the heat.

After weeks of complaining publicly about Barack Obama’s record, the news media’s coverage of the Democratic presidential race, or both, Mr. Clinton on Wednesday ripped into a television reporter who had asked him about a Nevada lawsuit concerning participation in the state’s caucuses this Saturday. Mr. Clinton believed the question had seemed sympathetic to Mr. Obama’s stakes in the suit, Clinton campaign officials said.

A federal judge in Las Vegas ruled in the case Thursday, with a decision that will apparently benefit the Obama campaign. The judge, James C. Mahan, held that some hotel-casinos, as arranged by the Nevada Democratic Party, would be permitted to set up caucus precincts on site so employees who work Saturday can participate. Many of those Nevadans are members of Culinary Workers Union Local 226, which has endorsed Mr. Obama, and their votes on Saturday could help him significantly against Mrs. Clinton.

The suit was brought by the state teachers’ union, which maintained that the arrangement gave the hotel employees an advantage that others working Saturday did not have. Some of this union’s top officials have endorsed Mrs. Clinton. But her campaign has denied involvement in the suit, and when the television reporter suggested a connection between it and her supporters, the former president, stumping for her in Oakland, Calif., narrowed his eyes. As his aides looked on with concern, Mr. Clinton’s voice took on an edge.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

VIDEO: Bill Clinton heated over Vegas voter lawsuit...

RAW: SHOWDOWN WITH REPORTER...

[JennysCool]

when the television reporter suggested a connection between it and her supporters, the former president, stumping for her in Oakland, Calif., narrowed his eyes.

Bill's losin' it as he sees the third term flying out the window.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

That’s what I thought too....

[MrEdd]

At my age and with my diseases, I can't get any young women without the power of the White House".

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks Ernest, and g’night all.

[Technical Editor]

So what’s that about five times the value of anybody else’s vote? What was he talking about?

[boxerblues]

this thread has a better explaination of that

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1955055/posts

[Brandie]

LMAO I am loving this.

[Soliton]

He is looking really old.

[Deo volente]

He looks much older than 61.

And not healthy at all.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Searching for a news article on that...found this:

Clinton camp confused over at-large caucus sites

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By Tony Cook · January 17, 2008 · 7 PM

Even at the 11th hour — and after this morning’s ruling that the at-large Strip caucus sites are OK — there’s still some confusion, at least within the Clinton camp, about who can participate in those caucuses.

New York Sen. Hillary Clinton’s campaign told the Sun this evening that only employees who work for companies with more than 4,000 workers can caucus at the nine at-large sites on the Strip.

That’s not true.

The issue came up after the Sun asked if any unions supporting Clinton would have members caucusing at those locations.

“If a construction company doesn’t have more than 4,000 people, they are out of luck,” said Hilarie Grey, Clinton’s Nevada spokeswoman. Clinton is endorsed by eight labor unions, some of whose members work for contractors on the Strip.

She said she learned of the 4,000 threshhold from the campaign’s political and labor directors.

State Democratic Party caucus rules, however, say the at-large sites will be created working with employers at locations where more than 4,000 employees will be working during Saturday’s caucus.

Any shift worker working within a 2.5-mile radius of an at-large location can caucus there.

We took that information back to Grey, who said she would double-check her facts with the campaign’s political director.

“Thank you for working with us on that,” she said. “I am not that literate on the rules.”

Discussion: 26 comments so far...

1. By KidFromVegas

   1/17/08 at 7:41 p.m.

   Suggest removal

   "I am not that literate..." That's obvious from her last campaign too!

2. By Virginia

   1/17/08 at 7:43 p.m.

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   Hillary Clinton is the best candidate. Please caucus for her - especially if you are a worker in need of health care, a good economy and believe, like Hillary, that the Iraq war must end now. I understand that an article like this might be confusing, but please identify where you are able to caucus and join in the exciting moment of sending Hillary Clinton to the White House.

3. By Knowzitall

   1/17/08 at 7:49 p.m.

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   Nah, can't do it Virginia, there is no Santa Claus and she will ruin the party with her corruption.

4. By zb

   1/17/08 at 7:49 p.m.

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   I have just resigned in protest as a precinct chairperson for the caucus based on the outrageous and unconscionable decision by the Nevada Democratic Party to have different rules for different groups.

   This is a violation of our most fundamental principles of equality and democracy. Shame on the Nevada Democratic Party and shame on those who have turned this into a racial issue.

   While all other participants in the caucus will have to be physically present at their precinct where they live, the hotel workers will be able to participate at work. They are the only group who has this special privilege. What about all the other people who have to work or for other reasons can not participate at their precinct... they will not have the same opportunity. In addition, the manner in which the number of delegates will be selected at these strip locations will be different from all other precincts and likely give them a disproportion number of delegates. This is fundamentally un-American and unconscionable. It is the kind of voting methods we expect from a dictatorship and not from a democracy.

   I will not be part of facilitating what amounts to a form of "jim crow" law that makes it easier for one group to participate in an election compared to other groups. The more I hear people promising "change" the more it seems nothing has changed. zb

[Defiant]

The plan is for Bill to kick off a week before the election so that the sympathy will ensure Hillary! gets the White House. No one has let Bill in on the plan yet.

[Deo volente]

Has he been checked for polonium yet?

I would get myself in for a complete physical if I were him.

[UCANSEE2]

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By Virginia
1/17/08 at 7:43 p.m.
Suggest removal

Hillary Clinton is the best candidate. Please caucus for her - especially if you are a worker in need of health care, a good economy and believe, like Hillary, that the Iraq war must end now. I understand that an article like this might be confusing, but please identify where you are able to caucus and join in the exciting moment of sending Hillary Clinton to the White House.

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LOL!!!.
“ I understand that an article like this might be confusing,”

Only to devoted fans of Hillary.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Here's a good one............

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Bil Clinton has become such an embarassment to the party and to the people who at one time held him in high esteam., The Clintons have shown no dignity or grace on the campaign !

Bill has been caught several times in outrageous lies, and is always mad and frustrated that his wife could actually be loosing her crown !

Who do these people think they are ? That they are entitled to the keys of the white house?

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Well...how about this:

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The muslim thing won't play in the Dem primaries.. but the GOP will sieze on it like with force in the general election.. and it doesn't all have to be true.. innuendo is enough in many cases. The GOP will go after white blue collar voters by raising doubts about whether he would have allegiences toward Islamic groups. The Farrakhan thing will come up. The black identity ideology of Obama's church will be used by The GOP to frighten white blue collar voters. Remember the Willy Horton ads from 88?... the stuff they can use against Obama would be far worse and far more damaging. Remember, early on Dukakis had an 18 point lead over Bush 1.. but after Willy Horton, that lead evaporated and Dukakis lost in a landslide. Don't think for one moment it won't happen with Obama. The problem with Obama is that pp don't know much about him so they are projecting positive images on him..but Obama has not fully been vetted.. and you don't want that to happen in the general election.. The GOP will be sure to do it though.

[GnuHere]

He looks horrible - is he really only 61?

I watched the video - I think he would feel better if he found out why there is a flashing red lantern in his throat and have it removed, lol.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

LOL!

I have to get my sleep,...I'm much older than him and I don't want to get those bags under my eyes.....

[GnuHere]

I doubt you’re as venomous and vindictive as he and Hill - that’s gotta wear on ‘em over the years!
Could not believe how many times he was accusatory toward the reporter in a 3-4 min interview.

Have lotsa rest!