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Jack Kevorkian Speaks Out Against Catholic Doctors, Religion And Oregon's Suicide Law
AHN ^ | January 17, 2008 | Matthew Borghese

Posted on 01/18/2008 7:40:41 AM PST by NYer

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To: Monterrosa-24

Mr. Kevorkian is the Brian Warner of the medical profession. While Brian plays a celebrity self-name Marilyn Manson and takes glee from causing outrage, so does celebrity known as Dr. Death.

He’s made a cottage industry of himself. Speaking enragements, grotesque paintings, etc. Hope his victims are happy they made him richer by succumbing to his contraption.


21 posted on 01/18/2008 9:40:43 AM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: penowa

I would think that any early release would require some remorse and contrition over what you’d done to get locked up.


22 posted on 01/18/2008 9:41:53 AM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: NYer
I guess it's time for me to get singed. Many doctors agree with this guy, but they don't have the cojones to put it on the line.

My dad was left a large dose of morphine, which my step-sister kept in the fridge. He took a little at a time. However, the entire bottle would have killed him. The hospice nurse came everyday, so the large amount was unnecessary. We all knew why it was there. In fact, I talked about it so that we were not fooling ourselves.

If your religion precludes you from doing this, even faced with debilitating pain, then God be with you, but don't codify your believes and prevent the rest of us from using the option.

Kevorkian is doing a needed service and he has placed himself on the line for it.

23 posted on 01/18/2008 9:51:45 AM PST by purpleraine
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To: weegee

Plus all of those gift certificates he has to honor.


24 posted on 01/18/2008 9:55:06 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: purpleraine

The Michigan jury found Kevorkian guilty of second-degree homicide. It was proven that he had directly killed a person because Thomas Youk was not physically able to kill himself. The judge sentenced Kevorkian to serve a 10-25 year prison sentence and told him: “You were on bond to another judge when you committed this offense, you were not licensed to practice medicine when you committed this offense and you hadn’t been licensed for eight years. And you had the audacity to go on national television, show the world what you did and dare the legal system to stop you. Well, sir, consider yourself stopped.”


25 posted on 01/18/2008 10:06:32 AM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: NYer

Has he announced his suicide plans yet?


26 posted on 01/18/2008 10:10:10 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: NYer
Dr. Death is a demented, mad ghoul who is obsessed with the process of death..........

His killing of all those helpless people was not for humanitarian purposes but rather to satisfy his own sick and twisted curiosity.

Throw him back in prison.

27 posted on 01/18/2008 10:12:03 AM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: purpleraine

Kevorkian would have it where those who do not really want to die (as in those sad cases in the Netherlands) are pressured into bumping themselves off anyway.

Pain can get out of control but it can still be fought. An intentional fatal dose of morphine is never the solution.


28 posted on 01/18/2008 10:12:29 AM PST by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: weegee
There is no mention in your post of the patient's mental abilioty to make the decision. If he wasn't capable, then I agree with the jury. I am not here to challenge or cupport the decision in that case.

Either way. the facts of the case does not change my position. If you want to address my position and not the facts of the case or the doctor's license, then have at it.

29 posted on 01/18/2008 10:14:51 AM PST by purpleraine
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

He’s terminal but his is a “quality” life still.


30 posted on 01/18/2008 10:15:16 AM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: purpleraine

Just refuting your praise of Jack Kevorkian.


31 posted on 01/18/2008 10:16:04 AM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: Monterrosa-24
Not your decision. It's mine to make. The issues isn't temporary pain for me. It's amount of pain, severity, persistence, and prognosis.

The larger issue, is do you believe a person has a right to commit suicide? If not, what punishment should the government enact for your decision?

32 posted on 01/18/2008 10:17:12 AM PST by purpleraine
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To: weegee
I intend to say what I said. I did not praise his actions in the case, about which I have only sketchy knowledge. I stand by the service he has performed to pioneer the issue and say what oher doctors are too cowardly to say.

Some day, the government will not play a role in enforcing whay some consider sins alone, or interfere with someone's personal freedoms on personal issues.

33 posted on 01/18/2008 10:21:01 AM PST by purpleraine
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To: purpleraine

It is not your decision to kill another person who is suffering.

Suicide is against the law in most of the civilized world. The law is gentle when the suicide attempt fails and help is usually given.


34 posted on 01/18/2008 10:22:15 AM PST by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Monterrosa-24
You should reread what I said. If I gave you the impression it's not the person's decision, in fact I said the opposite. Do you agree that a person has the right to make that decision about themselves?

The problem occurs when they can't make it, as we have seen in cases recently. Just to create another dissonance for you. If I am the decision maker delegated in an advanced medical directive and I'm asked whether or not to "pull the plug" on another person, who's decision is it to do so?

35 posted on 01/18/2008 10:29:04 AM PST by purpleraine
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To: purpleraine
The patient has the right to request that extraordinary measures not be taken to prolong his life. But turning off a respirator is different than administering a fatal dose of drugs. So many times we have seen the respirator turned off but the patient continues to live for an extended time.

No one has the “right” to end his own life. That is law and it is morality. If you desire to change the law then you have the right to lobby for it. But you’ll find yourself in strange company.

My father was a neurosurgeon and he had the backbone to speak his mind. He was on the side of the INTRINSIC VALUE of life.

36 posted on 01/18/2008 10:39:39 AM PST by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Monterrosa-24
I am on the side of freedom. Imposing your values on how and when I end my life restricts my freedom and I believe unnecessarily. You have control over your own life. In some case people want to end their lives, but are physically unable to do so.

We have examples of how others delegate the decision making. You can characterize the hospital procedures all you want, but it's ending the person's life. And in some cases as explained by a third party. Are you proposing no removal from life sustaining equipment because you have an "intrinsic value"" of life?

If you father doesn't want to participate, he should also have that right. I don't believe doctors should be forced to perform abortions. In fact, I oppose abortions because the victim clearly is not making the decision. But the law let's doctors perform the abortion and end the life.

37 posted on 01/18/2008 10:50:00 AM PST by purpleraine
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To: purpleraine

explained = decided


38 posted on 01/18/2008 11:02:01 AM PST by purpleraine
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To: purpleraine; weegee

It appears that what you really want is someone to argue with. Nothing more, nothing less.


39 posted on 01/18/2008 11:49:38 AM PST by Jaded ("I have a mustard- seed; and I am not afraid to use it."- Joseph Ratzinger)
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To: purpleraine; Monterrosa-24

The Dr. Death issue was not about one person committing suicide or punching his own ticket or whatever. It was about Dr. Death killing people and calling it a service. That friend, is MURDER.


40 posted on 01/18/2008 11:52:54 AM PST by Jaded ("I have a mustard- seed; and I am not afraid to use it."- Joseph Ratzinger)
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