Posted on 01/18/2008 4:41:50 PM PST by JACKRUSSELL
~~memories~~
(1990) John McCain said on the floor of the Senate: “Mr. President, I am anxious to construct a new relationship with our old adversary (Vietnam)”. He, who was in a Vietnamese prison camps for five and a half years, was pushing hard for normalized relations with Hanoi long before anyone else was.
Between when Clinton said that he would not normalize relations with Vietnam until there was a full accounting of POWs/MIAs and the time he lifted the Trade Embargo only two Americans had been accounted for in Vietnam.
Lifting the embargo opened the door for the multi-billion dollar corporation, Lippo Group with American business partners, such as Stephens Investment of Little Rock, AR to conduct business in Vietnam. Mr A. Vernon Weaver, at that time the Vice-President for Operations in the Pacific Rim of Stephens Investment and a member of the Board of Visitors at the U.S. Naval Academy was instrumental in arranging an upgrade of the position of Commandant of the U.S. Naval Academy from two stars to four stars.
Former U.S. Navy officers, Senators John Kerry and John McCain supported this reorganization.
http://www.usvetdsp.com/billbell.htm
An indication of just how deep and subtle Red Chinese roots run in U.S. business and government affairs deals with McCain and Kerry. Both McCain and Kerry fought long and hard to provide the political cover Clinton needed when he made the controversial decision to normalize relations with Vietnam. McCain’s wife, Cindy, is the daughter of James Hensley, who is the second largest Anheuser-Busch distributor in the United States. McCain is an officer in Hensley & Co. and Cindy is a vice president. The McCain family owns several million dollars in Anheuser-Busch stock.
As a part of an aggressive campaign to enhance its international standing in the beer market, Anheuser-Busch has had signned contracts and invested hundreds of millions building brewery operations in China and Vietnam. I can’t link any of those contracts involve Lippo. Some docs retrieved from the net revealed that Riady’s Lippo is the holder of a license for Sea World in Indonesia and that Anheuser-Busch owns all the Sea World themeparks in the United States as well as some overseas.
Is there a connection between Anheuser-Busch and Lippo?
http://www.usvetdsp.com/billbell.htm
SeaWorld/Lippo Connection:
Old URL: http://www.lippo.co.id/Main.htm
Internet Cache: http://web.archive.org/web/19980530014836/http://www.lippo.co.id/Main.htm
Net cache shows Lippo holds/held the license on Sea World in Indonesia.
“Today I am lifting the trade embargo against Vietnam because I am absolutely convinced it offers us the best way to resolve the fate of those who remain missing and about whom we are not sure.” Two things happened between November 1992 and February 1994 which bear on this issue. One was that Senators John Kerry and John McCain lobbied the president to drop the embargo. The second thing was that in September 1993 the head of the Lippo Group, Mochtar Riady, led a trade mission of Asian bankers on a trip to Vietnam to (in his words) “size up business opportunities there.” Lippo helps, among other things, to finance trade deals. It therefore stood to benefit enormously from expanded trade between Vietnam and the United States;
Old URL: http://www.empower.org/html/policy/misc/roadmap3.htm
See Internet Cache:
http://web.archive.org/web/20000816001233/http://www.empower.org/html/policy/misc/roadmap3.htm
After all, if they want our top secrets, they just need to ask...
Bump.
Interesting stuff...
Cyber.
Warfare.
or
Electronic.
Blitzkrieg.
Think of The Art of War or Oriental philosophy in general -- lie about your intentions, soft-pedal your strengths, and attack in a way that you've won the war without having to risk open battle.
America's military and economic strength is predicated on its 'wiredness'.
If they disable our C-and-C (by denying us the ability to *communicate*) they can just waltz in and *take* Taiwan.
And put an end to the impression of American invulnerability.
Couple that with judiciously chosen sabotage and/or suicide attacks (say of key personnel at our Clintonized national labs), and the hollowing out of our infrastructure (we *import* apples from China!!? What happened to the state of Washington), and China sees itself as invincible -- they have us on manufacturing, technology, population, and (for Taiwan) short supply lines.
IF this happens, I hope President Thompson has the balls to summarily execute a couple dozen CEOs for treason.
(Please note that the 'common sense' punishment for those CEOs, the bill of attainder, is explicitly unconstitutional -- which is why all the Dems were pushing for 'censure plus' for Bill Clinton. Lying scum.)
Cheers!
We have it. It's called the SIPR Net. However, that doesn't prevent idiots from putting sensitive information on Internet-connected systems.
That one actually made sense. The export controls were pegged at a processing power that was formerly only attainable by huge supercomputers. At the time they were loosened, that power was available on a desktop. The static restriction meant our computer industry soon wouldn't be able to export anything, and foreign competitors would have filled the need. Only a few years after this people were able to make supercomputers using Sony's PlayStation 2 game console.
The House vote was 259-173 in favor.
146 Republicans and 112 Democrats took the floor to plead FOR MFN, including the speaker.
The Senate voted 60-38 for.
But, yet, you pick out FRed. What did your guy do? Sit on his thumbs?
Many people, including you, don’t realize what the effects of being left out of China’s trade would have meant.
The problem IS NOT that China has MFN status. It’s the Trade Agreement is bad!
Now, who negotiated that?
Notice, if you will, that FRed has been calling for FAIR & FREE Trade, saying, all along, that the agreement’s are skewed, and need to be re-negotiated.
I agree 1000%! Let the shiite fly now, rather than later when they are even more able and equipped to counter.
You nailed it...God, Family, Country!
Yes, you are right. If people would just do some research, they’d find film, still pictures, and several books to prove it.
The blacklists can be found here:
http://blackholes.us/zones/countries/cn.txt and http://blackholes.us/zones/countries/ru.txt
Uncle Sam should switch to EQUIPMENT not made in China.
Ooops, there isn't any.
American hardware is made in China, American software is made in India, defense contractors in U.S. are foreign owned. Foreign brain is doing research in U.S. and Americans are busy running service economy (i.e."do you want fries with it, sir?")
Twenty years ago, American goverment learned from the French that Soviets use illegaly obtained American equipment on ther pipelines. The clandestine operation was set up, to pepper up the commercial equipment and let Ruskies buy it. As a result, one of the pipelines blew up, and the explosion mimicked nuclear attack
Methinks the history can and will repeat itself - U.S. goverment may already be in possession of "American" equipment peppered up by Chicoms or other hostile parties. Actually, there are reports of Chicoms already penetrating NORAD computers. The catch - computers are not connected to the Internet. Chicoms used powerlines and tampered equipment.
thanks!
Are these blocked at the router level or the software level on each system?
My network and .htaccess thanks you! Here comes the great flushing sound~!
ALL
Jeeesh you people worry too much about all of this.
The man in charge of our DOD defense computers, Chaing Xu Sui, say’s they are safe from Chinese hacker attempts.
What more do you want?
The man in charge of our DOD defense computers, Chaing Xu Sui, say’s they are safe from Chinese hacker attempts.
What more do you want?
A nice tasty rat to nibble on as I cut and paste all those "deny from"'s? :-)
The second list will require vodka, in honor of nashi protivnik.
I know, people are tired of hearing complaints but maybe if some of us began posting our firewall logs, it would give people cause to rethink the position. These people are not playing games, and they are good at what they do. Ask my neighbor, who just had her debit card cleaned out yesterday, among the more trivial examples.
So they want to just go in and rummage through anything American citizens do on the Internet, just in case we're terrorists.
What liberty?
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