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TheCramerReport.com's Mad Money Recap - January 18, 2008 (Predicts 2,000 point market drop)
thecramerreport.com ^ | January 18, 2008

Posted on 01/18/2008 5:26:06 PM PST by khnyny

Cramer started Friday's show with his "Game Plan", but this segment focused on a Game Plan for the Fed and government instead of the stock market. Cramer doesn't like the stimulus packages being discussed in the White House and Congress, so he offered his own plan. He says that the reason stocks are dropping is that there is a fear that bond insurers will go out of business in the next few days or weeks because they are out of cash. They have $500 billion in potential claims, and they don't have enough money to pay out the claims. If the companies can't pay, Cramer thinks the market could drop a couple thousand points, no one will be able to borrow any money, and banks could be taken down with the insurers. Cramer's plan is to have the government buy the toxic mortgage insurance, sell off the good parts, and pay off the remainder at a discount like 50 cents on the dollar. This will give everyone certainty so that banks and other people can go about their business, and will cost at most $250 billion, which is about the same amount of money Congress is talking about passing ou to individuals.

Cramer then took some phone calls. The first caller asked if we are anywhere near the bottom, and Cramer said that he thinks we are near a bottom, as long as the insurance issues are taken care of. The next caller asked if it's time to look at blue chip financial stocks, and Cramer said that it's better to look at beaten down tech and healthcare stocks because of the mortgage insurance issues he outlined above.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cnbc; cramer; djia; dow; stocks; wallstreet
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1 posted on 01/18/2008 5:26:10 PM PST by khnyny
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To: khnyny

So I guess it’s time to buy the Dow now?


2 posted on 01/18/2008 5:34:22 PM PST by relee ('Till the blue skies drive the dark clouds far away)
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To: relee

Exactly. If Jim Cramer says sell, then start buying. If he says buy, then start selling.

Who can forget his constant pumping of those dotcom stocks right up until the minute before they collapsed.


3 posted on 01/18/2008 5:38:03 PM PST by bshomoic
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To: khnyny

I couldn’t find the “2,000 point drop” prediction in the transcript.

What am I missing?


4 posted on 01/18/2008 5:38:29 PM PST by Boanarges
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To: Boanarges
"If the companies can't pay, Cramer thinks the market could drop a couple thousand points..."

Cramer was talking about this on another show too and elaborated saying that everyone (mentioned Congress) is ignoring that this is a distinct possibility. Who knows.
5 posted on 01/18/2008 5:42:34 PM PST by khnyny (Clinton and Co. are the carnies of American politics.)
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To: khnyny
Cramer’s all over the place, literally and figuratively. He runs around on the set yelling and pushing his face right up close to the camera. He manically tosses out stock recommendations without a moment's reflection, and changes his mind constantly.
He’s often spectacularly WRONG on his calls, so why should we listen to him on this one? This is the same guy who assured us the Dow would easily go to 14,500 by the end of 2007, and now it's going to drop 2,000 points??

And the economic stimulus plan will cost more like $150 billion, not $250 billion.

No, thanks. Whatever Cramer says, the opposite often happens.

6 posted on 01/18/2008 5:44:00 PM PST by Deo volente
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To: Deo volente

People might say - but he made a fortune in the market, why not listen to him?

Well, the real truth is he ran a hedge fund, and he had people much smarter than him doing the stock picking. He was just good at doing the song and dance routine needed to convince potential clients to sign on the dotted line.


7 posted on 01/18/2008 5:49:01 PM PST by bshomoic
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To: khnyny; tiggs

All Cramer needs is a big ball of sweatsocks hammered down his throat. He’s a caricature of a joke. Oh, and toss a coin, heads is up, tails is down, then compare with Cramer’s predictions. Stuff the socks in deeper...


8 posted on 01/18/2008 5:51:14 PM PST by AbeKrieger (There is a special place in Hell for Lyndon Johnson.)
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To: bshomoic

For your enjoyment, Cramer speaking on February 29, 2000:

http://www.thestreet.com/_tscs/funds/smarter/891820.html


9 posted on 01/18/2008 5:52:54 PM PST by Deo volente
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To: All

Barron’s had an article a year or so ago rating the various fund managers and pundits, such as Cramer....

The Barron’s article had Cramer rated as one of the worst fund managers with the worst track record.

He’s entertainment, a very smart guy, but mostly entertainment.

Case in point, on yesterday’s show he declared the market was going to go straight down, including today...today’s market opened up and went up over 160 points, before it’s modest decline.

Good luck all.


10 posted on 01/18/2008 5:53:40 PM PST by OhhTee5
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To: khnyny

I am a poor long horizon dollar cost averager, who welcomes the 2000 point drop, lowers my average, and I just hate buying at record levels all the time.


11 posted on 01/18/2008 5:56:25 PM PST by Son House (Protection For Opportunity Seekers And Tax Payers From Congress Spending: Low Tax Rates !!!)
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To: khnyny

Let’s see, the Dow hit a high of 14,198.10, on October 11th, and closed at 12,099.30, today. I think I could “predict” a 2,000 point market drop too.


12 posted on 01/18/2008 5:59:35 PM PST by 3niner (War is one game where the home team always loses.)
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To: Son House

That’s the only sure way to make money any more in this crazy, manipulated trader’s market.

Long term horizon, dollar cost averaging. Make sure you buy only good companies with solid balance sheets, preferably with a history of increasing dividends. There are going to be bargains galore pretty soon in many sectors.


13 posted on 01/18/2008 6:03:34 PM PST by Deo volente
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To: bshomoic

“Exactly. If Jim Cramer says sell, then start buying. “

Bingo. I shorted in 2000 and did well when he was still high on the fumes of the 5000 Nasdaq.

Sure bet: There is fear in the market. Once the fear is wrung out and/or is at its worse, the market will bottom.

The real risk is the risk of long-term structural damage from bad govt policy. not sure it is a good idea to buy when such bad stimulus ideas are out there.


14 posted on 01/18/2008 6:15:11 PM PST by WOSG (Proamnesty-antiBushtaxcuts-proCO2caps-CFR-RINO John McCain delenda est!)
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To: khnyny

Cramer is a tout. His job is to put the play over the finish line in terms of return for his firm’s clients. The firm has a staked out position on a good stock. It’s Cramer’s job to tell the public to buy so his guys can sell right into that strength after a few day’s run up. This is tantamount to criminal behavior in my book and men of his ilk were often tarred and feathered in another time.


15 posted on 01/18/2008 6:22:11 PM PST by kinghorse (Oh no it's CloverHill(ary) Aiiiiiiieeeeeeeyyyurgglegarglrrrburp!!!!)
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To: Boanarges

He said it on Chris Matthews show. A 2000 point drop if the insurance isn’t fixed.


16 posted on 01/18/2008 6:24:33 PM PST by jmj3jude
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To: jmj3jude

“He said it on Chris Matthews show.”

.....Cramer on Chris Matthews!...it must have been a hoot to see which one could talk the fastest.


17 posted on 01/18/2008 6:38:13 PM PST by STONEWALLS
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To: Boanarges
I couldn’t find the “2,000 point drop” prediction in the transcript.

Would you settle for "a couple thousand points" about halfway through the recap?

18 posted on 01/18/2008 7:35:07 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Deo volente; Son House

Been dollar cost averaging into Vanguard index funds for years. I use the Total Stock Market index, the GNMA, and the Intermediate Term Treasury index. I keep it about 50-50 between stocks and fixed income.


19 posted on 01/18/2008 7:39:21 PM PST by Ken H
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To: bshomoic

“Well, the real truth is he ran a hedge fund, and he had people much smarter than him doing the stock picking. He was just good at doing the song and dance routine needed to convince potential clients to sign on the dotted line.”

exactly. Then he got thestreet.com public and I believe the bulk of his net worth came from that. Now, of course, he is a public personality and can interview his neighbors who are CEO’s and his ‘very good friends’ on his show lol.

That said, he is right that there is a very serious problem with the mortgage insurers and the domino effect that can happen.


20 posted on 01/18/2008 7:48:02 PM PST by WoofDog123
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