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Scientists Invent Robots That Lie, Real Bender Closer Than Ever
gizmodo.com ^ | THU JAN 17 2008 | KIT EATON

Posted on 01/19/2008 10:03:11 PM PST by DogByte6RER

Scientists Invent Robots That Lie, Real Bender Closer Than Ever

Holy crap! The Age of The Machines is nigh: a bunch of scientists in Switzerland have created learning robots that can lie to each other. Okay, so they don't swill beer or put bends in girders—they just communicate to each other with benign flashing lights, thank goodness, instead of using lasers to destroy humans:

The team at the Laboratory of Intelligent Systems at the Federal Institute of Technology created the little experimental learning devices to work in groups and hunt for "food" targets nearby while avoiding "poison." Imagine their surprise when one generation of robots learned to signal lies about the poison, sending opponents to their doom.

The little wheeled robots had neural circuitry with about 30 "genes" that determine their behavior, and how much they react to light in the environment. The food sources charged up the robots' batteries while the poison drained them, and by using the genes of the most successful feeders in 50 successive generations, the team was hoping to select the fittest.

Three colonies of bots in the 50th generation learned to signal to other robots in the group when then found food or poison. But the fourth colony included lying cheats that signaled food when they found poison and then calmly rolled over to the real food while other robots went to their battery-death. Eerily wicked, to say the least. Saving the robots' honor, luckily, there were also a few "hero robots" that signalled danger and then rolled to their death to save the others.

Will technology like this make its way into consumer robots sometime? We kind of hope not: not sure I'd like to argue with a Roomba about whether it had or hadn't swept up that mess behind the sofa.

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KEYWORDS: ai; bender; robot; robots; science; slotmachines; technology; videopoker
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This really isn't new to me...those lyin' and cheatin' one armed bandit robots in Vegas and at the Indian casinos have been doing this for years!
1 posted on 01/19/2008 10:03:15 PM PST by DogByte6RER
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More here:

“80. Robots Evolve And Learn How to Lie”

http://discovermagazine.com/2008/jan/robots-evolve-and-learn-how-to-lie


2 posted on 01/19/2008 10:04:17 PM PST by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: Bender2

ping


3 posted on 01/19/2008 10:05:01 PM PST by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER
I've written a couple software-based mult-generation neural networks. I think it's funny how articles written about the subject are made to sound so magical. It's really not. The other problem is that the ones in the study try their best to find the creation of life and logic where there is none. I honestly have my doubts that we will create machines that think and act like humans anytime soon; we simply don't have the computational power nor the programming languages to properly express it.
4 posted on 01/19/2008 10:09:19 PM PST by TheZMan (Vote Conservative in '08. Vote for Fred Thompson, the only one that won't screw up the country.)
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To: DogByte6RER
not sure I'd like to argue with a Roomba about whether it had or hadn't swept up that mess behind the sofa.

My Roomba's battery seems to run out faster than it used to. I suspect it is just getting lazy.

5 posted on 01/19/2008 10:12:40 PM PST by OCC
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To: Bender2

Bender’s ...not...real????????


6 posted on 01/19/2008 10:14:08 PM PST by DeLaine (If this is Paradise, I've been screwed! (Achmed the Dead Terrorist))
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To: DogByte6RER

Great, so when we get our sexy, robot women, they are going to so lifelike that we may as well stick with our ex-girlfriends.


7 posted on 01/19/2008 10:14:29 PM PST by ansel12 (Washington:I cannot tell a lie,Clinton:I cannot tell the truth,Romney:I cannot tell the difference.)
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To: DogByte6RER

Oh, great. ANOTHER new constituency for the Democrats.


8 posted on 01/19/2008 10:16:13 PM PST by Question Liberal Authority (Carbon Dioxide is NOT POLLUTION. It is PLANT FOOD, necessary for all life on Earth.)
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To: ansel12

Your sexy robot woman has an off switch, and possibly a remote.


9 posted on 01/19/2008 10:16:17 PM PST by TheZMan (Vote Conservative in '08. Vote for Fred Thompson, the only one that won't screw up the country.)
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To: ansel12

lol

Fem bots who fake their orgasms!


10 posted on 01/19/2008 10:17:27 PM PST by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: TheZMan

“Your sexy robot woman has an off switch, and possibly a remote.”


Cool, the future sounds good.


11 posted on 01/19/2008 10:17:36 PM PST by ansel12 (Washington:I cannot tell a lie,Clinton:I cannot tell the truth,Romney:I cannot tell the difference.)
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To: DogByte6RER

“Fem bots who fake their orgasms!”


Works for me! Turn up the volume.


12 posted on 01/19/2008 10:20:36 PM PST by ansel12 (Washington:I cannot tell a lie,Clinton:I cannot tell the truth,Romney:I cannot tell the difference.)
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To: SeraphimApprentice; Interesting Times; GreyFriar

Dishonesty provides a survival advantage, but I am surprised that robots discovered it.


13 posted on 01/19/2008 10:21:51 PM PST by zot
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To: DogByte6RER; Bender2

Yoi!
14 posted on 01/19/2008 10:23:00 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Liberty Valance

15 posted on 01/19/2008 10:25:15 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: DogByte6RER
Scientists Invent Robots That Lie

Computers lie to me all the time. As a programmer It says "fault in dll blah blah" but the real problem is often that a vendor provided dll with no err handler just barfs back complete garbage, choking my work of art :). The conversations with vendors are always fun "Uh, yeah, when the user hits the e-stop on your machine, your hardware barfs a 128byte null string back to my front end app. Think you might be able to come up with something a little more solid since I was expecting a non null double?

16 posted on 01/19/2008 10:25:43 PM PST by Malsua
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To: DogByte6RER

So, the Clintons are teaching robots how to speak and talk these days.

Who knew?


17 posted on 01/19/2008 10:26:09 PM PST by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islam.)
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To: Liberty Valance

18 posted on 01/19/2008 10:26:52 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Liberty Valance

Dude, you have NO IDEA how much I want a teddy.

He stole the show.


19 posted on 01/19/2008 10:26:57 PM PST by Malsua
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To: DogByte6RER
Does that mean Robocop can be bribed?
20 posted on 01/19/2008 10:29:35 PM PST by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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