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George Will: Waiting for Straight Talk
RealClearPolitics ^ | January 20, 2008 | George Will

Posted on 01/20/2008 4:25:45 AM PST by Aristotelian

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To: steveyp
If the price of the drug is set to recover the cost of capital, and the Canadian’s choose to arbitrarily reduce the price and make the drug less than the price necessary to meet the cost of capital you will not be in the business to produce drugs. It’s pretty simple really.

Right. You will not be in the business to produce drugs for Canada. Right now the only reason companies are willing to do so (I imagine) is as a sort of loss leader. This situation can exist because Canada's population is small relative to the U.S. In the worst/extreme case, if the price controls became effectively applied to the whole U.S., I imagine drug companies would not sit idly by. They would, by one legal means or another, label their drugs "not for sale in Canada".

Thus destroying Canada's price controls.

So I don't see the problem.

As an American I’m angry I am subsidizing the drug costs of Canadians.

Then let's stop letting them leech off us. Start laundering through their idiotic system, and break it.

You want the price of the drugs to go down, you force the Canadians to purchase the drugs at the price necessary for the firms to recover their investment.

Exactly! Bingo!

Only way to do that is to eliminate their protected system, by taking advantage of it till it breaks.

41 posted on 01/20/2008 6:22:25 AM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Dr. Frank fan

What breaks is the firms ability to produce the drugs. Perhaps they don’t stretch and try to develop more marginal drugs (those that would have a higher cost of capital), or they slow the rate of development, or the reduce quality, any number of things can happen.

Unfortunately, given the current state of the American people, your proposal to break the Canadian system by using it would only result in the US adopting it. A quick survey of the leading Dem candidates confirms that would be their desired outcome.


42 posted on 01/20/2008 6:34:50 AM PST by steveyp
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To: sensible centrist from NH
I resigned my 32-year membership in the Bar of the US Supreme Court over the McCain-Feingold campaign "reform" act. It was a direct and obvious attack on the First Amendment. When the Supreme Court became the third branch of the federal government to savage the Constitution, I resigned.

Furthermore, I told the Court (and John McCain also) why? My article, "To the Supreme Court: I Quit," was published widely, including on FR.

I urge all my friends and colleagues on FR to seek out a candidate on the Republican side who is NOT an enemy of the Constitution. (And I haven't brought up many of McCain's other defects, including amnesty for Mexican criminals in the US, etc.)

IMHO, there are better options remaining on the Republican side.

Congressman Billybob

Latest article, "Snow, Ice, and Lame Tom"

A Freeper in Congress? Please act now.

43 posted on 01/20/2008 6:59:35 AM PST by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: Aristotelian
Just Say No to The Amnesty Express !!
44 posted on 01/20/2008 7:00:08 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: sensible centrist from NH
What's the point of voting for MeCain over Hillary/Obama should he win the nomination?

Wouldn't that be a Democrat in the White-house either way.

I'd rather lose this election on my Conservative principles than moderate them to appeal liberals who call themselves moderate Republicans.

45 posted on 01/20/2008 7:07:48 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: CharlesWayneCT

A lot of people seem baffled by the drug re-importation issue. It is something that will never happen.

American drug companies spend huge amounts of money on product development, and charge high rates to American consumers get back their investments. “Leftover” sales to smaller countries (e.g., Canada) go mostly to profit because American consumers are the ones who pay to recoup development costs.

If we reimport from Canada, do you think the drug companies are so stupid as to increase sales at the lower rates? As rational business thinkers, they will only sell more product for reimportation at higher rates. Thus, reimportation will not make economic sense. For the drug companies to do otherwise is to commit suicide.


46 posted on 01/20/2008 7:08:43 AM PST by neocon1984
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To: BunkDetector

McCain-Ben Nelson of Nebraska. I would think that Ben is the bigger conservative...yes even for a democrat.


47 posted on 01/20/2008 7:11:37 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: BunkDetector
The thing with America is that every now and then the pendulum goes back and forth. I truly believe that the Republicans thought that in 1994 Democrats would never ever win an election again and got ARROGANT! Then 2004 came and again they thought the democrats were dead and buried. Shock from around the Republican party came in 2006. In 2008 the pendulum is still not on our side, but I would never say one party is dead...ever. That is totally the dumbest statement ever spoken.
48 posted on 01/20/2008 7:15:34 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: Bernard

we will hear about the wisdom and power of the Florida voter.

And what wisdom and power will these folks speak?


49 posted on 01/20/2008 7:16:42 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: sensible centrist from NH
In the meantime step aside while the rest of the Republican party tries to put end end to the Clinton era.

You don't want to end it you just want to change the ratio of spoils you divide amongst yourselves. That's the reason both parties are so muddled now, it's so hard to tell the difference between them.

50 posted on 01/20/2008 7:17:53 AM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: jveritas

FYI


51 posted on 01/20/2008 7:18:52 AM PST by rintense (Thompson / Hunter 2008!)
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To: Bernard

“Supercalifragalistickexpealidotious Tuesday.”

You don’t have your spell checker turned on do you? LOL


52 posted on 01/20/2008 7:19:36 AM PST by EEDUDE
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To: HelloooClareece
Santorum said that McCain would not work with the Republicans at all, instead he teamed up with the most liberal of the lefties for crap bills like shamnesty.

You forgot to mention that Bush would have signed that bill.

Why is it a “far-right” position to hate that McCain dumped on the first amendment with his campaign finance debacle?

Thompson was one of the original sponsors of McCain-Fgold. Yet he is still beloved by conservatives. And oh yeah, didn't Bush sign that into law?

McCain might not be the most conservative candidate, but he is as conservative as Bush, and more conservative than Romney.

53 posted on 01/20/2008 7:27:34 AM PST by conservit
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To: samtheman

Frightening, isn’t it? I have a friend in the UK who waited a year and a half to have gall bladder surgery, and she was on the “urgent” list due to the severity of her symptoms. Not only that, but she said that most of her doctors were Arabs or Indians.

Folks, this is coming to us. God help us!


54 posted on 01/20/2008 7:29:33 AM PST by Pining_4_TX
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To: EEDUDE
"Supercalifragalistickexpealidotious Tuesday.”

You don’t have your spell checker turned on do you? LOL

No, I don't. FR spellcheck did not highlight the word, or offer any alternatives, so it must be right until somebody proves it wrong.

55 posted on 01/20/2008 7:31:20 AM PST by Bernard (If you always tell the truth, you never have to remember exactly what you said.)
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To: Condor51; sensible centrist from NH; BunkDetector

Condor my old FRiend, I hate to be the one to tell you this, but our sensible lil centrist from NH signed up on FR in January of *last* year.

Somewhat new he may be, but he’s not exactly a ‘newbie’.


56 posted on 01/20/2008 7:40:42 AM PST by mkjessup (GOP + FOX = The new "Axis of RINOs")
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To: Aristotelian

Unlike the biblical leopard, John McCain changes his spots on a regular basis and you never know which way they’re going to to next.


57 posted on 01/20/2008 7:41:48 AM PST by capt. norm (Those who think logically provide a nice contrast to the real world.)
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To: steveyp
What breaks is the firms ability to produce the drugs. Perhaps they don’t stretch and try to develop more marginal drugs (those that would have a higher cost of capital), or they slow the rate of development, or the reduce quality, any number of things can happen.

All of these assumptions involve (in the extreme case) every pharamaceutical firm in North America sitting back as Canadian price controls effectively take effect across North America, and saying "well, gee, nothing we can do about it, I guess that's the price". But surely this is incorrect. Static analyses are usually the province of the left.

What's more likely and realistic is that firms would implement a "not for sale in Canada" policy, like I said, so that Canada would be effectively locked out of buying all but the junkiest of drugs, unless/until they relaxed their price controls. This would harm Canada, perhaps, but not us.

Unfortunately, given the current state of the American people, your proposal to break the Canadian system by using it would only result in the US adopting it.

This really would limit R&D and I'd be opposed to it. But I don't agree that it would be an inevitable result of allowing reimportation through Canada.

58 posted on 01/20/2008 8:11:20 AM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: BunkDetector
Read the FR Homepage. The part about 'Champion causes which further conservatism in America'. You'll note it doesn't say 'moderate'. Or 'prostitute conservative principles just to 'win' an election'.

And since you're a relative Newbie yourself, maybe you missed the Bug Zapper threads where scores of 'moderates' (liberals) got the zot. Many were looooong time Freepers too, like from 1998.

59 posted on 01/20/2008 8:28:43 AM PST by Condor51 (I wouldn't vote for Rooty under any circumstance -- even if Waterboarded!)
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To: mkjessup
*** our sensible lil centrist from NH signed up on FR in January of *last* year. Somewhat new he may be, but he’s not exactly a ‘newbie’. ***

He hasn't hit his 1st 'birthday' yet (though close), so = Newbie.

And how many 'centrists' got the Zot on those bug zappers threads a while back. I lost count around 50.
;-)

60 posted on 01/20/2008 8:37:36 AM PST by Condor51 (I wouldn't vote for Rooty under any circumstance -- even if Waterboarded!)
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