WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? (DEFEAT MCCAIN)

1/20/08 | Self

[Vinomori]

I hope for a brokered convention, which gives Fred more of a chance.

I love Fred, too. But Fred came in WAY too late, played coy and never really wanted this. It's hard to like that. But I really don't understand why people think a brokered convention favors Fred. They won't say, "Hey, this is so close, let's give it to the least popular candidate!"

[conservit]

Since it's Sunday morning, the Talk Radio spells should be wearing off by now. I'm hoping a few of you have a clear enough head to think for yourselves.

The hard numbers show that McCain is at least 10 times more conservative than Hillary.

Look for yourself: Congressional Ratings

While you're still thinking clearly I'll let you in on a little secret, despite what you may have heard ... Romney is not the second coming of Reagan.

[org.whodat]

Same old Sh— different day!

[Teacher317]

Guiliani is already done. He’s got fewer declared delegates than Ron Paul (6). Rudy’s got just as many as Hunter (1), and Hunter dropped out. Romney’s at 72, and McCain’s at 38. This is with 6 states done (12% of the 50), and with eastern states (NH) and large cities (Detroit) already having ignored him.

[gitmogrunt]

"Well the way McCain is treating the Surge in Iraq on the campaign trail you would think he invented the stadegy the same way Al Gore invented the Internet."

You're correct, he's acting like he invented the surge.

However, many 4 Star Freeper Arm Chair Generals were hollering for the surge way back in 2004 when Fallujah One, went down, when they burned and hung the Blackwater Contractors.

McCain is just doing a "me too", a few years too late.

Okay, I'llshut up quit being an FR arm-chair general for today.

[Round 9]

Actually I suspect that McCain will beat Hillary because the “moderates” will put him over the top. Unfortunately the attitudes found on this board are the minority this election year.

[Jackknife]

I would hope for actual conservatism to win out at the convention. But, alas, populism seems to be the trend now.

[sand88]

He did oppose the tax cuts, because he wanted to cut spending as well.

Wrong. Mark Levin highlighted the fact that in none of McCain statements in opposition to the tax cuts, did McCain mention cutting spending. He said he was against the cuts because they "benefit the rich." McCain is an outright liar and mentally unstable. His rapid support of AGW alone should make any rational person despise him. McCain will NEVER get my vote. In fact with discussions last night with friends and family we concluded we would vote democrat if the nut case McCain is nominated. With McCain as President his unstable mental state could result in a bad war. He true liberal nature would cause him to seek Teddy's advice on S.C. Nominees. His was the one vote that stopped drilling in ANWAR.

McCain hates conservatives. He has always been at hoe cozying up to liberals

If my beloved Republic is to be destroyed by rabid Socialism, let it be by the hands of a Rat.

[murron]

I absolutely agree with you. I know this may be wishful thinking on my part, but I feel Fred still has a shot in the southern states where the demographics are different than SC. SC is not as conservative as some of the Dixie states and there is not as strong a military vote in some of them, such as went for McCain. If only we could get rid of Huckabee, those votes would most probably go to Fred. At least most of them. My fear is that if Fred gets out, some of his votes may go to the Huckster and he will get the nomination.

In my opinion, he’s the worst and sneakiest, because he is using religion and Jesus to fool voters. I think that is so despicable. But I know that God does not sleep, and he will not look kindly on someone who uses Him this way.

[Owen]

In general the “hanging with while he’s still hanging on” philosophy risks McCain getting Florida. Stopping McCain in Florida is the most important goal, and that won’t happen voting for a candidate who:

1) Cannot win because he has no ability to compete in major media markets in the big states Feb 5

2) Is splitting the anti McCain vote, much too dangerously in Florida

3) Cannot do anything in a brokered convention because in 850 million dollar races the big donors will not tolerate elevating a 50 delegate candidate over a 1000 delegate candidate. And 50 delegates doesn’t buy a VP slot over a 500 delegate candidate. If his glowing principles are to be the reason to be VP, he gets that with or without 50 delegates. So . . . there’s no upside to risking McCain in Florida

In the final analysis it is all about last year. The enormous earthquake of conservative rage at McCain’s Amnesty Bill was the single most profound act of the right wing anger since the 2000 attempt by Gore to steal Florida.

To act now in any way that REWARDS McCain for his treachery last year — for his literal sneering in the face of conservatism — renders that entire event last year nothing more than mere petulance. The shouts were that “he will pay”. ANY act taken now to allow him to escape punishment defiles the dignity of last year’s victory.

And so, the choice is clear. It is not one of voting FOR Romney which is a concept the Thompson folks won’t want to fully embrace. It is, rather, one of honoring last year’s effort and punishing the perpetrator.

[dusttoyou]

Romney would be a good 2nd option. Mcrazy is not different than hitlery, neither will get my vote.

[sirchtruth]

Is Romney that bad?

He's a rino. He gave Mass a healthcare bill that requires people to purchase health insurance or pay fines. I'm sorry that's communist at the core! Just look at the wishy-washy stance he's taken this primary season along.

Ann probably likes him because of his hair! ;-)

[conservit]

It is clear to me that Romney out of the three remaining candidates has the best chance to win the primary and has the least amount of skeletons in his closet that Hilary can expose during the general election.

This is one of the greatest myths of this election cycle. The MSM has not even started looking at Romney, let alone his closet.

Take 15 minutes to search youtube. You'll find more trash on Romney than Paris Hilton.

Does anyone bring up the fact that Romney is a Mormon Bishop? Wait until the MSM runs with that, we'll never hear the end of it! They'll make the whisper campaigns against Romney look like child's play.

We haven't heard anything about his leveraged buy-outs where hundreds of people lost their jobs.

The only argument I've heard for Romney (and it's a terrible one) is that the MSM doesn't like him, so he must be a conservative.

That is one of the worst arguments I've ever heard, but yet Coulter and Rush trumped it up as the single most important qualification for being the GOP nominee. Since the Old MSM has complete control over who it criticizes and who it doesn't, we've turned our selection process over to them. Especially since it's well know that Rush and the New MSM are using that as a guage. It wouldn't take much foresight for the Old MSM to criticize the candidate they want to get the nom.

[imd102]

And just whom would McLame appoint? My guess is that his favorite Justice is Empty Souter. McLame is another George H.W.Bush, only farther Left. I WILL NOT VOTE FOR HIM.

I've always laughed at DH supporters when they would make statements like this, thinking to myself, well, none of these guys are that bad that I would sit it out. But now that we are on the verge of a McCain nomination, I can see where they were coming from. McCain brings nothing to the table to make me go out and vote for him and I believe he will get steamroolled in a general election, so why bother. Even with FRed as VP, I'd be uninspired with a McCain nomination.

[penowa]

"McCain is not the most conservative person in the race, but he is more conservative than Romney on any issue."

I don't know who is the most conservative of McCain, Romney, Huckabee, or Giuliani. What I do know is Romney is NOT owned by Soros, and McCain is and has been for a long, long time. If at election time, the choice is between Hillary and McCain, then there is NO choice as both are owned and operated by Soros.

[sirchtruth]

Just look at the wishy-washy stance he's taken this primary season along.

Sorry, let me correct this typo-ridden sentence with a vengence.

Just look at the wishy-washy stances he's taken this primary season alone. I don't know how many times he's changed his principles about life's issues?

[rtbwood]

Really? How do you know what Romney actually believes? When he says something, do you have some way of determining whether he is actually pandering to you? Do you know ONE politician, except Fred, whom I prefer but who won’t win, who does not pander? Romney is the last best hope we have and I think a decent family man and business man who will see the big picture and lead this country honorably.

[Condor51]

This is nuts. It makes no sense what so ever that the Republicans have shot themselves in the foot, but the alternative scenario of feeling sorry for our selves when the Beast becomes President is a nightmare that I won’t sit back and watch.

My Husband and I will back McCain (reluctantly)because our number one issue - above all else- is the military and national security.

So those of you who want to stomp your feet and stay home election day instead of voting to keep the Clintons out of the Whitehouse, please tell me how far you will let this go before you get over yourselves?

Flame away.

No thanks. I don't pick on girls.

[mikrofon]

The media decides the two candidates and we get a choice between the Left and the farther Left

That would be Tweedle-"D" and Tweedle-Dumb...

[penowa]

"Where has the Republican Party gone.?"

I don't know, but I know they have left me. Going to change my registration to IND next week. No reason to stay until the primary ends with Hunter out.