WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? (DEFEAT MCCAIN)

1/20/08 | Self

[Nextrush]

I said go for Fred in South Carolina because I wanted to give Thompson a chance to mix this race up.

But Fred fell short now and the main concern of mine is to beat McCain.

There's a media orgasm-coronation going on right now and we have to have straight heads to stop it.

Lets not infight and let trolls lead us atray.

Here's a serious look at how to defeat a man who's a virtual Democrat and a traitor to the conservative cause in this country.

McCain-Feingold made the First Amendment into toilet paper.

The law was designed to protect incumbent politicians by keeping little candidates from getting outside support to defeat entrenched politicians.

And we all have a list of what McCain has done to help Democrats and hurt Conservatives from the Gang of Fourteen on down.

Straight heads must prevail at this point.

I've heard two guys on two different networks (David Gergen on CNN, Bill Sammon of the "Washington Examiner" on Fox News) point out that Thompson is a "friend" of McCain. Sammon suggested Fred will endorse McCain.

That should settle the issue I brought up some weeks ago about Fred being a McCain front if it pans out.

Fred can't do much if he stays in right now but hold Tennessee which if he wants to run there on February 5th makes me happy enough.

McCain must be defeated by tactical voting.

I only hope Giuliani doesn't collapse from the media wave before we reach New York on February 5th. Its a winner take all primary and the only candidate who can take out McCain there is Rudy.

In New York and New Jersey on February 5th, I'm certain Rudy is the anti-McCain vote to defeat him there. You have to vote Rudy there to stamp out the McCain Mutiny.

Romney will contest Florida so vote for him there on the 29th to stop McCain.

Huckabee at least campaigned against McCain in the last few days in South Carolina.

The return the illegals pledge he signed along with on-air (MSNBC) criticism of McCain-Feingold I saw was clearly aimed at McCain.

But yes Huckabee always says nice things about McCain.

Maybe that's just his style.

If Huckabee is a shill for McCain, lets make Huck prove it by giving him wins and delegates in states where he is strongest. On February 5th, that will be Oklahoma, Alabama and or course Arkansas.

Back to Romney, he's the obvious choice in Utah, Colorado and Massachusetts on February 5th.

Romney should probably contest Missouri so you know who to vote for there.

Wouldn't it be nice if the native son of Missouri who's name inspired mine finally came out of the closet for Romney?

Is he fiddlin around while the Republican Party burns?

Emporer McCain and his media buddies are torching the place right now.

Focus your vote in the next few weeks on the strongest possible candidate in your state to defeat McCain.

Its straight heads time and I won't attack Huck, Romney or Rudy at this point because I'm not in the McCain helping business.

The grim task is to knock McCain down so hopefully a conservative alternative can rise up (that would probably be Romney). (ALL CRITICS CAN SHUT UP AT THIS POINT BECAUSE YOU ONLY HELP MCCAIN BY TRASHING ROMNEY)

But I will accept the other two as alternatives.

Get real, don't let the beltway crowd steal the Republican Party away from us.

THE ESTABLISHMENT CANDIDATE IS MCCAIN.

Guys like former Secretaries of State Henry Kissinger and Alexander Haig, the Rockefeller Republicans are in the McCain camp.

Also President Bush's friend, former Homeland Security Secretary and PA Governor Tom Ridge is on the McCain bandwagon.

On Friday, by the way, Ridge called "waterboarding torture. That echoes the McCain position of course.

[Dante3]

Could it be because McCain makes all the other candidates look conservative? Because Romney and Thompson are for more conservative than Hillary and Obama? At least Romney and Thompson are normal and care about this country.

In the general election even liberals might be afraid to vote for McCain because there is no telling when he might go ballistic. At times he is full of rage and at other times he appears medicated.

Anyone, such as McCain, who votes against keeping violent gang members and terrorists from this country is obviously incapable of handling WOT.

[alrea]

Welcome to at least half a decade of Hillary or Obama!

Is Romney that bad? I mean Ann Coulter likes him. If he's good enough for Ann..."tiniest suspicions"

[WayneM]

So those of you who want to stomp your feet and stay home election day instead of voting to keep the Clintons out of the Whitehouse, please tell me how far you will let this go before you get over yourselves?

I would rather the Dims have it than vote for McLame or the Huckster.

I have held my nose and voted for RINOs for the last time.

If the illegals are going to be given amnesty, I would rather a Demonrat be given the credit. That way I can truthfully say I played no part in it.

I am disgusted with the Republican party, and will no longer vote for someone because they have R in front of their name.

Sometimes you have to let things get very, very bad before they get better.

[central_va]

The President who almost got us baked was JFK.

JFK, in today's political terms, would be a conservative. He is much more conservative than McDole. I would actually vote for JFK over McDole.

[Round 9]

Not really. Obviously the opinion on here is in the minority now and will have little impact on the election.

[conservit]

And they've created this a Reagan mold, that Reagan himself wouldn't fit in.

I get a kick out of Laura Ingrim going off on someone over illegals, and then says she's looking for the next Reagan.

Everyone give Reagan a pass for giving millions of illegals amnesty.

We will never find the "perfect" president. McCain isn't half bad if you compare him to Hillary of Obama. He's Reagan's twin if you compare him to Romney.

[epow]

So lets take on the RINO’s and the number one RINO of all right now, John McCain.

McCain is not the #1 RINO. He's a close 2nd but Rudy is #1, and I won't vote for him under any conceivable circumstances. I can tolerate Romney or Huck if either of those is the only alternatives to a Democrat, but not Rudy. In fact, as much as it would pain me to do it I could pull the lever for McCain in November because either Democrat is even worse, but if Rudy is the GOP nominee I will vote for a tolerable 3rd party nominee if there is one on my ballot, or just skip that portion of the ballot if there isn't.

The bottom line is that unless Fred can pull a miracle out of his hat this will be the most disastrous election for the US in the lifetime of anyone now alive in America. From day one of this primary season the most popular GOP candidates have been the most liberal and the least popular the most conservative. What does that say about what the party has come to? Fred was my great white hope a month ago, but it's almost certain now that he's dead in the water. I'm so thoroughly disgusted with Republicans in general right now that I am seriously considering changing my registration to independent.

[Bear_Slayer]

Europe wants a “peace deal” in the Middle East, Russia, the Arab oil nations and China, too and maybe the Bush efforts there are part of this big new “containment” strategy that is emerging with the old “axis of evil.”

I recognize that the GWOT is really about access to oil and a continued strong dollar.

There are other forms of terrorism that C4 vests.

Nations can wage economic terrorism on a country and drive them into chaos, if the right conditions exist.

Oil is a limited commodity. Not only is important that we have access to it, but it is strategically important that our enemies do not gain an advantage over us, by their access to it.

The US became a super-power for numerous reasons, one of which was our access to cheap-oil and the freedom to develop an infrastructure to use.

Unless we have continued access to it, our enemies will destroy us.

[submarinerswife]

My rights are already being taken away by a Bush administration.

So what the hell, give whats left of your dignity to the Hilebeast. Great stategy. Lay down to make it easier for the Libs to stomp on you.

[John D]

Reread my post. I was in NO way supporting McCrazy. I knew him when I lived in AZ. I never voted for him then, and I will never vote for him in the future.

[Nextrush]

I never went Lyndon Larouche, even Rush admits that he did as a young adult and I will that I gave those ideas serious considerations as a teenager. (Council on Foreign Relations and such)

I’ve grown up to disagree with the establishment policies and not be so conspriatorial as I used to be.

But there are people at the top making policy and it can often be bad policy like the Vietnam sellout and the new containment policy towards the Axis of Evil.

Those people at the top play politics too and I’ve learned as an adult that politics has a dark underside to it.

I think we know that and so I say that insiders are trying to use nasty tactics to win. Maybe Fred or Huck are in to split votes and help McCain, for instance.

I would love to get to the source of all the attacks on candidates other than McCain that have been bandied about in the last few months/

[NittanyLion]

So what the hell, give whats left of your dignity to the Hilebeast. Great stategy. Lay down to make it easier for the Libs to stomp on you.

Quite the contrary. I will not be complicit by voting for a candidate who will take my rights away, regardless of party label. When I cast my vote, it will be for a candidate, not a vote out of fear.

[Jack Black]

The moment Mc Cain or the liberal Republican still around [I believe that in the end it will be John Mc Cain because the Republican Hierarchy chose him in their back rooms long ago] is nominated ...Oh, please. We see the votes! It is New Hampshire and South Carolina that have put John McCain in his current SECOND PLACE position. Romney has 2X as many delegates. There is not Republican Hierarchy that fixes elections .. there are only people who vote in primaries and caucuses. Parts of the media like McCain, sure. But Hugh Hewitt has been doing a 7x24 campaign commercial for Romney for months. Rush has tacitly supported Romney. Huckabee got a lot of nice media attention after Iowa.

Quit with all the deep paranoia already.

[Jim Noble]

This is what the loser rino's/moderate don't get! We're not going to vote for the repub just because...

OK, OK, I get it. I've heard nothing else on FR for the past nine months.

Now we know what we didn't know before. You are 15% of the GOP electorate, if that. You are zero percent of the independent or RAT electorate. That puts you at around 5-7% of the national electorate.

At that level, you cannot nominate or elect any candidate in any statewide or national election. You have demonstrated that you can probably ruin any Republican candidate you choose.

But, since 85-90% of the electorate will make choices which are unacceptable to you, where do you go from here?

What YOU don't get about the loser rino/moderates is that they will never support one of yours for anything. And there are lots of them, about 45-70% of the GOP depending on how you score the Huck.

So where do you go from here?

[Round 9]

Maybe because he believes like I believe that Romney will be more beholden to the base. On the other hand there are those like McCain who pride themselves on pursuing self-interest under the guise of being a “maverick.”

[Recovering_Democrat]

I had a struggle with who to vote for: Fred or Mitt.

Now, the choice is clear: Mitt Romney.

[Trueblackman]

I refuse to vote for any of them now that Hunter is out, let the others run the nation into the ditch.

[Nextrush]

He’s John Robert McDole, in case you didn’t know.

[Road Warrior ‘04]

It is definitely time for a new party, the American Conservative Party.

There used to be an American Conservative Party. They called themselves "Republicans"! Now, it seems, the only vestige of the "American Conservative Party" is on this site...for the most part.

[conservit]

You're right, McCain does fly off the cuff sometimes.

If you mention Conservative and Romney in the same sentence without a not between them, you're blowing smoke.

On every major issue Romney is as liberal as Hillary (or has been as liberal).

Gun Control

Abortion

Gay Marriage

Health Care

Illegals

Taxes (Fees)

The big problem I see with McCain, is he's been in public office since 82. That's a long time to make a lot of enemies.

Unfortunately for him, his biggest enemy is Rush.