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Knock Down, Drag Out Conventions?
patdollard.com ^ | 1/19/08 | patdollard.com

Posted on 01/20/2008 6:33:56 AM PST by paltz

If “change” is the word overused by every presidential candidate, “brokered convention” is the overused political concept of the moment.

The political chattering class — those who participate and those who observe — is speculating on the possibility of knock-down, dragged-out convention floor fights in one or both parties.

Why this sudden love affair with the prospect of a brokered convention?

Probably because it continues the drama of this never-ending presidential cycle in which the country is knee-deep.

A brokered convention happens when no front-runner emerges from the primaries. If no candidate holds the magic number of delegates (for Democrats, a majority plus one, or 2,205 delegates; for Republicans, 1,191), then you’ll see a whole lot of horse-trading.

“It is difficult to imagine, but not impossible” says Mark Siegel, a longtime Democrat consultant and former executive director of the Democratic National Committee.

“Let’s say Clinton has 44 percent of the delegates and Obama has 39 going into the convention,” he explains. “Well, we will have this mass of superdelegates” – elected officials – “that are uncommitted up for grabs.”

But Siegel predicts any horse-trading over those and other delegates will happen well in advance of either party’s convention.

In other words, no smoke-filled rooms, no big-city political bosses holding onto delegate votes. Those days are long gone.

Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell, the DNC’s chairman during the 2000 Florida recount, also questions the likelihood of a brokered convention. For one to occur, he says, a party would need more than two candidates still in contention heading into the convention, which he describes as “technically possible” but a “remote” possibility.

It could happen on the Democrats’ side, Rendell says, if John Edwards remains sincere about taking his candidacy to the convention and if Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama have split the primary delegates. “Then you could go to the convention with Edwards being the balance of power.

“But remember the superdelegates,” he adds. “Those elected officials are not committed, per se, so they could fall into place before the convention for either Clinton or Obama, and that would win the day.”

A bigger chance exists for Republicans to take their primary fight into their convention if the race continues as it has, with a different winner each week.

“You could have a real possibility of four contenders going to Minneapolis,” Rendell predicts. “It is probably the most significant opportunity for a brokered convention.”

Longtime Republican National Committee member Morton Blackwell of Virginia agrees that is a real possibility.

“Which means the GOP nominee could actually be decided only after delegates cast multiple ballots at the national nominating convention,” says Blackwell, a former national delegate for Barry Goldwater. “And those ballots can go into perpetuity, until a winner is decided.”

Michael Barone, a senior writer at U.S. News & World Report and author of “The Almanac of American Politics,” says talk of brokered conventions is “ludicrous.”

“Keep this in mind – the party that has its nominee selected ahead of time is the party that has the advantage going into the general election.”

Salena Zito


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1 posted on 01/20/2008 6:33:58 AM PST by paltz
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To: paltz

It won’t happen. It’ll all be over on Feb 6.

Clinton Inc. will certainly be the Democrat nominee, McCain (damn it), the GOP.

I will vote third party.


2 posted on 01/20/2008 6:36:15 AM PST by kjo
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To: paltz

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(just substitute “Political Party” whereever it reads “Company”)

95 Theses
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3 posted on 01/20/2008 6:43:44 AM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: kjo
Really?


Which one?

4 posted on 01/20/2008 6:44:25 AM PST by G.Mason (And what is intelligence if not the craft of out-thinking our adversaries?)
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To: paltz
Why this sudden love affair with the prospect of a brokered convention?

I think it's nostalgia. The reason the conventions get (or used to get) so much TV time is that they probably were interesting to watch before first ballot nominations became de rigueur.

ML/NJ

5 posted on 01/20/2008 6:45:41 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: paltz

A brokered convention is unlikely because there is no city in America where there could be a smoke filled room.


6 posted on 01/20/2008 6:46:58 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Moveon is not us...... Moveon is the enemy)
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To: paltz; trooprally; Just A Nobody
Well I gotta BUMP this one just cause Paltz is a friend of mine and hasn't been around much.
How ya doin kiddo?
How's the apple?
7 posted on 01/20/2008 6:47:28 AM PST by concretebob (If liberals aren't traitors, their only defense at this point is they are incredibly stupid)
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To: kjo

McCain / Clinton, two dems ..... no need to vote in November.

Democrat President, congress?

Memo to self:
Sell US bonds, Stocks, buy section-8 housing and lottery tickets. Put all liquid assets offshore, ASAP. Prepare for tax hikes and layoffs.


8 posted on 01/20/2008 6:51:53 AM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: G.Mason

Probably Constitution. I really don’t care. It just doesn’t matter. Hillary/McKennedy will win. JUST WHAT DOES IT MATTER?

It’s long past time for a serious third party movement. Rush must jump start it, but he won’t.

I am officially DEPRESSED.


9 posted on 01/20/2008 7:06:09 AM PST by kjo
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To: PA-RIVER
"McCain / Clinton, two dems ..... no need to vote in November.

Democrat President, congress?"

McCain (Soros' sockpuppet) vs. Clinton (Soros' sockpuppet) = NO CHOICE.

10 posted on 01/20/2008 7:18:17 AM PST by penowa
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To: paltz
While McCain may be today's front runner, I doubt he will have the nomination sewed up by the start of the convention. At this point I don't think anyone can seriously predict who will be running for the Republicans.

The Democrat's convention will be very interesting as both Hillary and Obama will come with large blocks of delegates, but not enough to cinch the nomination. I expect there will be a lot of rancor and if the convention looks like a deadlock it well could be some one other than Hillary or Obama may be nominated.

11 posted on 01/20/2008 7:36:24 AM PST by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: kjo
"I am officially DEPRESSED."


Bwahahahaha ... Merely a temporary setback.

Things may not be as dark as they look.

In any event, keep them clean, oiled, locked & loaded, and practice.

I know we are. ;^)

12 posted on 01/20/2008 7:48:51 AM PST by G.Mason (And what is intelligence if not the craft of out-thinking our adversaries?)
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