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Where are We From Here ? ( After South Carolina )
Captains Quarters ^ | 01/20/2008 | Ed Morrisey

Posted on 01/20/2008 9:46:01 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 01/20/2008 9:46:03 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
>A third-place finish among one of the most conservative groups of voters in the primaries does not bode well

No it does not.
But I still look with interest to the primaries where democrats and 3rd party liberals are not able to vote republican.

Not that I hold great hopes for our conservative movement, but at least a further clarity will be forthcoming.

2 posted on 01/20/2008 9:50:41 AM PST by bill1952 (The right to buy weapons is the right to be free)
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To: SeekAndFind
I usually find Morrisey's comments useful and enlightening, but this one sounds like he's fallen into the "Vote the (R) column at any cost" camp. That's disappointing -- I have more attachment to PRINCIPLE than PARTY.

Others differ, of course; but I didn't expect Morrisey to.

Maybe FRed won't quit. I hope not.

3 posted on 01/20/2008 9:54:43 AM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored

The SC GOP REALLY blew it. Fred was our best hope of keeping Klintoon out of the WH. I am hoping against hope that the other southern states will come to there senses ... otherwise this republic is in very serious trouble


4 posted on 01/20/2008 9:57:55 AM PST by clamper1797 (Fred Thompson - Duncan Hunter for POTUS and Vice Potus in either order)
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To: SeekAndFind

It leaves me hoping that Fred remains in longer than Huckabee and that he starts winning. It leaves me wondering who will run in 2012 if Fred drops out.


5 posted on 01/20/2008 10:03:39 AM PST by Ingtar (Romney didn't support President Bush's tax cuts in 2003, earning praise from Barney Frank)
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To: clamper1797
> The SC GOP REALLY blew it. Fred was our best hope of keeping Klintoon out of the WH. I am hoping against hope that the other southern states will come to there senses ... otherwise this republic is in very serious trouble.

I really looked forward to someone with FRed's views and temperament in the White House. I dunno about the other states coming to their senses; I fear that we are headed down the slope.

"Hey! Where are we going? And why am I in this handbasket??"

6 posted on 01/20/2008 10:04:41 AM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Related...

http://exposingtheleft.blogspot.com/2008/01/where-we-stand.html


7 posted on 01/20/2008 10:05:32 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: dayglored
I usually find Morrisey's comments useful and enlightening, but this one sounds like he's fallen into the "Vote the (R) column at any cost" camp. That's disappointing -- I have more attachment to PRINCIPLE than PARTY.

Well said.

8 posted on 01/20/2008 10:08:08 AM PST by Zechariah11
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Trouble is the Republican moderate coalition that allowed crossover voters in the critical early primaries.

I suspect things may have turned out somewhat differently if the order of primaries was different, or if we didn’t allow crossover voters in any states.

Just a thought.


9 posted on 01/20/2008 10:09:36 AM PST by moonhawk (Fear and Loathing in '08: Hunter/Thompson)
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To: SeekAndFind

No question that Huckabee’s fake evangelism damaged Fred.

But he’s still the only conservative in the race. If he drops out, the party is cooked.

Huckabee is such a jerk, he may not see the handwriting on the wall. He can’t possibly win, but his inflated ego may possibly keep the best candidate from winning. It’s too bad that the party pros have allowed this fiasco to get this far.

In any case, Fred is still the only conservative left standing. He’s got to hold on and hope for a deadlocked convention, or an implosion of one or two of the feckless “leaders,” or we’re screwed.


10 posted on 01/20/2008 10:10:00 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: dayglored

Folks,

Two Voting Principles for 2008 :

STAND WITH FRED WHEN HE’s STILL STANDING.

STAND WITH A REPUBLICAN IN THE GENERAL ELECTIONS IN ORDER TO PREVENT SOCIALISM FROM ACCELERATING.


11 posted on 01/20/2008 10:10:05 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Beating the Beastess and her pimp and keeping their hands off the levers of power is all that matters now.

This will be the dirtiest campaign in memory, I would rather find some kind of common ground then have them take control.

If the Beastess takes power we can be guaranteed to have:

*Another two or three Ruth Bader Ginsberg’s on the SCOTUS.

*Near filibuster proof control of the COTUS.

*The return of the Fairness Doctrine for the public airways and regulation of speech on the Internet.

*Federal funding of abortions on demand.

*Investigations of faith based institutions.

*Higher taxes.

*Amnesty for illegal immigrants.

Felons having their right to vote restored

etc, etc, etc.

I will legally do just about anything to keep that from happening.

12 posted on 01/20/2008 10:12:52 AM PST by DogandPonyShow (America, the Light of the World.)
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To: Cicero

When Fred supports McCain, will you see it as a betrayal?


13 posted on 01/20/2008 10:13:02 AM PST by Zechariah11
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To: SeekAndFind
we’re screwed basically

take your pick:

Queeg...gawd

Mitt....now my first choice maybe

Huckster....don’t like his populism/open borders but loathe what he brings out in condescending prejudiced FReepers

Rudi.....his brass is nice but his politics aren’t.....if he were scourged and tempered Biblically maybe...do we have 40 days spare time to send him to say the Mojave?

I think Rudi like Thompson will be studied one day as to how not to run for President of the United States

My choices now....all about as fun as a rubbing alcohol on anal fissures:

Mitt

Huckster

Rudi

Queeg

this election will ensure the Mexicanization of America...it may be celebrated one day in Spanglish here

14 posted on 01/20/2008 10:15:48 AM PST by wardaddy (Hey toe sucker Dicker Morris...you schlub.....kiss my proud Dixie butt you beyatch)
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To: SeekAndFind
> STAND WITH FRED WHEN HE’s STILL STANDING.

Yep.

> STAND WITH A REPUBLICAN IN THE GENERAL ELECTIONS IN ORDER TO PREVENT SOCIALISM FROM ACCELERATING.

That won't prevent it.

Why run a liberal Republican? THEY'LL LOSE AGAINST A LIBERAL DEMOCRAT. HELLO??? Voting for a liberal Republican is an exercise in futility.

Voting for "Republican because they've got an (R)" is only going to encourage the RNC to keep running liberals.

Force the issue. Turn it around. Maybe it'll take a couple of elections. So what if it does?

Take the long view. America is worth taking time to get this stuff right.

15 posted on 01/20/2008 10:16:48 AM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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“My choices now....all about as fun as a rubbing alcohol on anal fissures:”

Ouch. Man that was vivid...I could have done without that. LOL
:-)


16 posted on 01/20/2008 10:25:54 AM PST by snarkybob (')
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To: DogandPonyShow
Beating the Beastess and her pimp and keeping their hands off the levers of power is all that matters now.

Ditto!!!

17 posted on 01/20/2008 10:27:38 AM PST by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Buck. It. Up.


18 posted on 01/20/2008 10:28:16 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (So-called free trade advocates = "China Firsters")
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To: SeekAndFind

I, for one, am becoming one of those “hand sitters.”

Here’s the thing, if Romney or McCain are the nominee we have effectively eliminated a conservative agenda from being a necessary aspect of the nominee for the GOP. McCain is more like a real conservative in his voting record than Romney, of course, but his obvious lack of interest in the Constitution, his so-called “maverick” streak, his unbalanced desire to be loved by the media... all those things will lead him down the road to center left policies. His open borders stance and his mostly muddled record on the war on terror (his “torture” positions) is also quite a strike against the conservative agenda. As to Romney, well he is just a plain liar that he is conservative. The man simply cannot be believed. And if you don’t like what he’s saying today, why he’ll change it tomorrow to suit you better. His record is of an anti-Reagan, abortion supporting, big government loving, center-left politician. There is no reason to expect he’ll be any different in the future than his record proves... quite despite what he says today or how he changes and spins it tomorrow.

Of course, the main argument for voting for them anyway is the judge question. Some say that the judges that McCain and Romney might put on the bench would surely be better than what a Hillary might put there. But, the difference would be so marginal, in my opinion, that destroying our principles to vote for either of these men isn’t worth it.

We have to remember that Hillary would not have a blank check and if she might become president, her negatives among the country might easily prevent her from being as bad as we all fear. Plus, her in office would spur the conservatives to oppose her. On the other hand, McCain or Romney would have little impediment to put their bad choices on the bench or their liberal policies in place.

A McCain or Romney presidency will materially weaken the GOP in general and the conservative movement in particular.

So, I cannot see my way to vote for either of these two men. I cannot be responsible for putting them in office. Let the left be responsible for the new Carter era. Not us. Let conservatives come in to save the country and strengthen our movement in 2010 and 2012.


19 posted on 01/20/2008 10:37:37 AM PST by Mobile Vulgus
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To: wardaddy

Quite the analogy


20 posted on 01/20/2008 10:52:34 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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