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Despite a disappointing finish, Thompson doesn't bow out
Chicago Tribune ^ | January 21, 2008 | William Douglas

Posted on 01/21/2008 3:28:34 AM PST by bd476


"...As soon as Thompson entered the race, analysts began wondering aloud why he got in, saying that he didn't show the fire in the belly that's necessary to run successfully for president. The image of Thompson as a laid-back slowpoke became fodder for late-night television comedians.

Woodard said that Thompson finally appeared to hit his stride on the stump in the Palmetto State, speaking to overflow crowds in the past week.

"Here's what happens when you're a candidate -- you get better as you go along," he said. "The problem is Huckabee's got a three-month jump on him. Fred is a good, tough candidate. If he was like this in September, things might be different."


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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: conservative; fred; fredthompson; sc2008; thompson
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Go Fred Go!
In it to WIN it!



1 posted on 01/21/2008 3:28:37 AM PST by bd476
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To: bd476

This is January. A lot can happen by July. Keep your powder dry.


2 posted on 01/21/2008 3:30:56 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: seekthetruth; libertylover; A1 Southern Man; reasonisfaith; Uncle Ivan; ...


"BE NOT MISLED----
WELL WIN WITH FRED!"



3 posted on 01/21/2008 3:33:31 AM PST by bd476
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To: bd476
I'd like to optimistic, but I am not.

The "Stupid Party" is foisting RINOs and liberal Republicans before us.

Get used to saying "President Clinton" again.

4 posted on 01/21/2008 3:41:26 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: bd476

I too like Fred and really loved Hunter and believed he was the only true conservative in the race.
But the populace has become vain and a third party conservative, not just another rino, is necessary for conservatives to have a representative in government.


5 posted on 01/21/2008 3:43:27 AM PST by kindred (Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.)
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To: SkyPilot

I’m guess I’m more stubborn than optimistic. I just figure if it’s gonna happen, it will NOT be because *I* lay down & rolled over!


6 posted on 01/21/2008 3:46:33 AM PST by hoosier_RW_conspirator ("Nurture your mind with great thoughts. To believe in the heroic makes heroes." -- Benj. Disraeli)
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To: hoosier_RW_conspirator

Here in the winter of discontent, our fortunes sank to the lowest point. But from this place, Washington went forth conquering, and to conquer, and to become the foremost man of all the world.
“At Valley Forge,”
speech by Speaker of the House Champ Clark, circa 1918-20.

I think you’ll appreciate this.


7 posted on 01/21/2008 3:49:27 AM PST by Uriah_lost ("I don't apologize for the United States of America," -Fred D Thompson)
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To: Uriah_lost

First Thompson is the ‘only’ Reagan.

Now he’s Washington.

Before long, he’ll be Jesus Christ.

FredHeads don’t support FDT; they worship him.


8 posted on 01/21/2008 4:05:07 AM PST by RangerM (Jesus was likely a very good carpenter.)
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To: SkyPilot

I’d estimate 70% chance your right. Without Fred, our group of candidates are the worst ever. It makes you wonder if the RNC has already conceded the election to Clinton.


9 posted on 01/21/2008 4:06:18 AM PST by Rational Thought
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To: RangerM

You want so badly to find some controversy that you come up with crap like that? You are pitiable in your smallness. I’m sorry that you have no ability to see an attempt to rally supporters as anything but worship. You are small and petty and foolish.

Should you feel the need to reply, know that you will be ignored.


10 posted on 01/21/2008 4:10:30 AM PST by Uriah_lost ("I don't apologize for the United States of America," -Fred D Thompson)
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To: RangerM

Oh puh_leeeze. Fred just is the only candidate who represents the principles that conservatives believe.


11 posted on 01/21/2008 4:11:53 AM PST by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: bd476
It is either Thompson for me or I will vote “uncommitted” and we will fight at the Convention. I will no longer roll over for the machine or the rinos that think that they run it. The Conservative base is the support for the party... without a base, the house will fall down at the first sign of wind.

LLS

12 posted on 01/21/2008 4:13:22 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims and vote Fred!)
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To: Uriah_lost

I see a group of individuals grasping at straws in an effort to perform CPR on a dead campaign.

Trouble is....

...ALL the straws are short.


13 posted on 01/21/2008 4:15:19 AM PST by RangerM (Jesus was likely a very good carpenter.)
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To: bd476

Myself and my wife WILL continue to support FRED all the way. We WILL NOT allow ourselves to be defeatist as the defeatism is perpetrated in the form of Leftist/Democrat propaganda by the Leftist bias of the Leftist controlled MSM.

It’s a one sided MSM that we are up against, therefore we must remain all the more true to our own convictions.


14 posted on 01/21/2008 4:15:28 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: RangerM

I can only speak for myself, but I do not worship any man (or woman, well, maybe my wife). Thompson is the only conservative in the race. Yes, I know he wasn’t a conservative in 1972, but neither was I.

I do not believe that any other Republican currently in the race would get the conservatives motivated to work and vote for him. IOW, anybody else will lose in November, no matter whom the Dems nominate. Republican presidential candidates do not have a very good track record if they do not mobilize the conservative base.

The ability to win in November, which seems to be what motivates Republicans to misguidedly nominate non-conservatives, is only half of the story. Even if Huck or Mac win in November, what would he do after he becomes President? The recent records of Huck and Mac do not reassure me that they will even nominate Constitutionalists as justices, let alone support other conservative causes.


15 posted on 01/21/2008 4:16:56 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: RangerM; Huck

“FredHeads don’t support FDT; they worship him.”

They remind me a little bit of Cubs fans. Any day now Fred will kick it into high gear and then he’ll win this thing. Or if that doesn’t work a brokered convention where Fred will limp in with 5 delegates and no natioanal support and somehow be chosen.

I’ve worked up a scenario that has Thompson winning at a brokered convention. It goes like this.

After the casting of many ballots, there is still no clear first choice, so the candidates retire to a smoky back room to hammer out a deal....McCain and Rudy go ballistic and a melee ensues. During the melee Romney and Hucakabee are killed, then Rudy and McCain turn on each other. This leaves Fred, who missed the melee on account of he had fallen asleep in his chair, as the GOP nominee. I don’t see how this can fail. LOL


16 posted on 01/21/2008 4:17:04 AM PST by snarkybob (')
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To: Always Right

Such language of “exclusivity” only supports my point. (ie Fred is the ONLY [choose your preferred quality here])

He isn’t the Lord and Savior people.


17 posted on 01/21/2008 4:17:50 AM PST by RangerM (Jesus was likely a very good carpenter.)
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To: Uriah_lost
I think you’ll appreciate this.

I do indeed. And I don't hero-worship FDT...I merely think he's head-&-shoulders above all the other GOP candidates this year as someone I'd be happy to see in the Oval Office for 4-8 years!

18 posted on 01/21/2008 4:20:08 AM PST by hoosier_RW_conspirator ("Nurture your mind with great thoughts. To believe in the heroic makes heroes." -- Benj. Disraeli)
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To: Rational Thought
...makes you wonder if the RNC has already conceded the election to Clinton.

If they give us McCain they already have.

Voting for McCain destroys what remains of our sovreignty!


I'd rather be waterboarded than vote for John McCain.
19 posted on 01/21/2008 4:21:41 AM PST by citizen
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To: snarkybob

I’ll believe your politicial scenario before I accept the Cubs coming out on top.

You know what we Chicago South Siders consider as the best thing about the North Side? (drumroll)...The ride back.


20 posted on 01/21/2008 4:23:19 AM PST by toddlintown (Build More Highways For Children---Huckleberry Talking Point)
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To: SkyPilot
I'd like to optimistic, but I am not.

You need to listen to Limbaugh today to get a healthy dose of Rush Rays to set your mind right. Things are actually looking GOOD for conservatives now!

21 posted on 01/21/2008 4:23:54 AM PST by PJ-Comix (Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List for the FUNNIEST Blog on the Web)
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To: kindred

Your Rx is also a strong dose of Rush Rays from his show later today. When listening, be sure to lay your head near the radio to get the full dosage in order to get your mind right.


22 posted on 01/21/2008 4:25:32 AM PST by PJ-Comix (Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List for the FUNNIEST Blog on the Web)
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To: toddlintown

“You know what we Chicago South Siders consider as the best thing about the North Side? (drumroll)...The ride back.”

That’s pretty good. It’s like some of us Texans say about Oklahoma. “You know what I like about Oklahoma........Nothing”
For any of you OK fans out there this is just a joke. No flaming required.LOL


23 posted on 01/21/2008 4:27:23 AM PST by snarkybob (')
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To: PJ-Comix
Things are actually looking GOOD for conservatives now!

Not if McCain is given as our candidate.

24 posted on 01/21/2008 4:27:36 AM PST by citizen
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To: Rational Thought
Wow! You're a hard case. Maybe terminal. For you I suggest you actually place your head square against the radio later today to make sure your dosage of Rush Rays is extra strong.

And to all dispirited conservatives, be sure to get your dosage of Rush Rays later today. He will set your minds right and put them at ease.

25 posted on 01/21/2008 4:27:40 AM PST by PJ-Comix (Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List for the FUNNIEST Blog on the Web)
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To: citizen

That is why you need to listen to Rush. McCain WON’T be the nominee. Be sure to turn the radio volume on high to get the full dosage of Rush Rays later today.


26 posted on 01/21/2008 4:28:45 AM PST by PJ-Comix (Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List for the FUNNIEST Blog on the Web)
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To: Daveinyork
IOW, anybody else will lose in November, no matter whom the Dems nominate.

I can respect your support of Thompson, but language like this is a bit over the top.

Especially when you consider that every national poll shows that McCain is the only one that would beat the Dems (in a theoretical match up).
27 posted on 01/21/2008 4:29:00 AM PST by RangerM (Jesus was likely a very good carpenter.)
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To: RangerM

He isn’t the Lord. What he is to True Conservatives, is the last one representing our interests.

The Republican establishment seems to think you can build a house without a foundation/base. Good luck to them.


28 posted on 01/21/2008 4:35:56 AM PST by Rational Thought
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To: PJ-Comix
You need to listen to Limbaugh today to get a healthy dose of Rush Rays to set your mind right. Things are actually looking GOOD for conservatives now!

I'll try PJ.

I kept waiting for the Conservative voters to show up in force. They haven't so far.

I can't believe that McAmnesty and Gomer Huckster are our front runners.

Bizzaro.


29 posted on 01/21/2008 4:43:28 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot
I’ve had it with the Republican Party, the leadership has sold out to socialist interests. They called for money over the weekend and I told them to go pound salt, also told them it would be the same as giving money to the democrats.
30 posted on 01/21/2008 4:44:14 AM PST by Camel Joe (liberal=socialist=royalist/imperialist pawn=enemy of Freedom)
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To: SkyPilot

Remember, turn the volume up loud and place your head near the radio for the full dosage of Rush Rays. Take the cure today and feel better tomorrow.


31 posted on 01/21/2008 4:44:47 AM PST by PJ-Comix (Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List for the FUNNIEST Blog on the Web)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Dittos to post #12!


32 posted on 01/21/2008 4:45:13 AM PST by Camel Joe (liberal=socialist=royalist/imperialist pawn=enemy of Freedom)
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To: RangerM
Especially when you consider that every national poll shows that McCain is the only one that would beat the Dems (in a theoretical match up). Polls taken now mean little.

Look how many polls concerning the primaries have been wrong. Most have been fairly accurate, but enough have been wrong to make them suspect.

As a Republican nominee emerges and as more becomes known about Hillary, I think those polls will change.

Yes, McCain does look more electable, but I think that any strong Republican can beat her...

... especially FRED!

(if he can win!)

33 posted on 01/21/2008 4:46:14 AM PST by aj7360
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To: bd476

LOL!


34 posted on 01/21/2008 4:46:18 AM PST by maineman (BC Eagle fan)
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To: Camel Joe
I’ve had it with the Republican Party, the leadership has sold out to socialist interests. They called for money over the weekend and I told them to go pound salt, also told them it would be the same as giving money to the democrats.

Volume up all the way with head firmly against the radio. Repeat daily until the Rush Ray Therapy works its magic in removing that angst tumor in your mind.

35 posted on 01/21/2008 4:46:37 AM PST by PJ-Comix (Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List for the FUNNIEST Blog on the Web)
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To: RangerM
You're wrong. Huck is Jesus Christ.

/s

36 posted on 01/21/2008 4:47:27 AM PST by rintense (You don't advance conservatism by becoming more liberal. Piss off McCain and Huck!)
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To: SkyPilot

Don’t bother. Rush has sold us out too.

He had opportunity to boost Hunter and Thompson when it mattered, and he didn’t. Now we’ll be stuck with a RINO, if Fred doesn’t pull a miracle out of his rear end in FL.

If Rush helps Thompson any, I’ll be very pleasantly surprised.


37 posted on 01/21/2008 4:49:44 AM PST by ovrtaxt (In my fantasy world, the Dems run a Zell Miller/ Lieberman ticket...)
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To: Always Right
Oh puh_leeeze. Fred just is the only candidate who represents the principles that conservatives believe.

Well, he had better win a primary if he expects to be taken seriously!

38 posted on 01/21/2008 4:51:48 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (The power under the Constitution will always be in the people- George Washington)
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To: RangerM
First Thompson is the ‘only’ Reagan.

I agree...yet his energy level and maybe an occasional smile will boost his support.

The things that I loved about Reagan were his smile, his overwhelming love of his country, his constant pronouncement that anything good is possible in the United States, his firmness in dealing with adversaries....and his, cocked head in response to stupid media questions, "well......there you go again"....

39 posted on 01/21/2008 4:52:03 AM PST by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: bd476
"What happened to Thompson? One word: Huckabee," said Clemson University political science professor Dave Woodard. "He stole all his (Thompson's) votes. As Huckabee began to rise, he got more money, more mailings, and the values voters who were going to Fred switched allegiances to Huckabee."
I'm sorry to say it, but what does that show about the intelligence of the "values voters"? It's not very flattering, that's for sure.

In one short span of a few months they have greatly legitimized the media stereotype of conservative Christians as witless ignorant boobs.

I'm sorry, if you look at Mike Huckabee and think that he would be good for America, good for conservatives, good for the fight against socialism and all the evils of socialism then, I'm sorry, you are a witless ignorant boob.

Great going, people. You've set the cause of conservatism back a couple of decades.

40 posted on 01/21/2008 4:52:52 AM PST by samtheman
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To: RangerM
every national poll shows that McCain is the only one that would beat the Dems (in a theoretical match up).

That is your weakness my friend. You worship polls that can be manipulated. As for voting for Sen. McCain. Only if the alternative is Satan.

41 posted on 01/21/2008 4:52:53 AM PST by McGruff (A "Big Time" Fred Thompson supporter!)
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To: RangerM
I support the ENTIRE Constitution and therefore cannot support McCain. End of story, perhaps a term for Hillary that is just as successful as Jimmeh Cahrters is what we need to point us in the right direction again.
42 posted on 01/21/2008 4:53:30 AM PST by Camel Joe (liberal=socialist=royalist/imperialist pawn=enemy of Freedom)
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To: cbkaty
The things that I loved about Reagan were his smile, his overwhelming love of his country, his constant pronouncement that anything good is possible in the United States, his firmness in dealing with adversaries....and his, cocked head in response to stupid media questions, "well......there you go again"....

Very substantial reasons!

LOL!

43 posted on 01/21/2008 4:56:04 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (The power under the Constitution will always be in the people- George Washington)
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To: samtheman

Agreed 100% to post #40! Huck is not the messiah anf Jesus will still love you if you vote for another.


44 posted on 01/21/2008 4:57:19 AM PST by Camel Joe (liberal=socialist=royalist/imperialist pawn=enemy of Freedom)
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To: McGruff

You have misunderstood.

The original assertion was that Thompson is the ‘only Republican that can win in November’.

This flies in the face of every shred of evidence available. Even I, as a Huckabee supporter, must acknowledge reality.

Your use of “Satan” reinforces my viewpoint that many FredHeads deify the candidate(s).


45 posted on 01/21/2008 4:57:27 AM PST by RangerM (Jesus was likely a very good carpenter.)
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To: Camel Joe

I agree with your point about the Constitution and McCain, but “Winning through Losing” isn’t a great strategy, IMO.


46 posted on 01/21/2008 4:59:47 AM PST by RangerM (Jesus was likely a very good carpenter.)
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To: RangerM
Do you understand that Huck supporters, by backing a fiscal liberal and a man weak on defense you have alienated fiscal/defense voters from ever backing your guy? You could have had it all with Fred as far as a candidate goes but you got greedy. Now if Fred does poorly and drops out Huck will suffer because most Fred supporters will back Romney or someone else? If Fred goes the values voters will be replaced with moderates and we both lose. If I can get security and low taxes and spending with McCain or Rudy or Mitt, why would I choose Huckabee who has lied through his teeth since starting his campaign? No matter what Huckster, your guys have lost, unless a solidly pro life guy like Fred wins the nomination. I would prefer a guy who is pro life but if I have to choose between the three legs of the Republican Party I will choose low taxes and strong military.
47 posted on 01/21/2008 5:01:49 AM PST by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: RangerM
Such language of “exclusivity” only supports my point.

Saying someone is the only candidate who supports your viewpoint is far from worshiping that person. I am tired of such inflammatory posts on this forum from all sides. You don't have to accuse people of blasphemy to make a point, unless you have no point to make. I have legitimate beefs against all the other candidates, and it has nothing to do with worshiping a candidate.

48 posted on 01/21/2008 5:02:18 AM PST by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: fortheDeclaration
Very substantial reasons! LOL!

Now if you are being sarcastic...KMA-MF!

If you are not.....thanks...but why the LOL?

Reagan could communicate...to everyone....and it worked....at home and abroad.

49 posted on 01/21/2008 5:02:51 AM PST by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: bd476
I like Fred and, of all the candidates, I think he would make the best President. But it's beginning to be the time when we need to consider electability. The MSM has apparently been successful in shutting down his candidacy.

As distasteful as some of the other GOP candidates are, they are far superior to anything the dims have. I cannot abide by the thought of four years of Hildebeast or Osama Obama, and I'm not sure the Country would survive.

50 posted on 01/21/2008 5:03:42 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (HRC: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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