Posted on 01/21/2008 6:53:18 AM PST by NormsRevenge
Note:
Question to Thompson does not address a (RINO) policy position.
Prayers up for Fred’s mom, and we all know that Fred is the kind of guy that knows family comes first! That is why Fred is with his mom at the hospital. Fred is STILL IN THE RACE and he does have the support to carry on! In 12 hours from(9:00PM 1/20 to 9:00AM 1/21) the red truck has earned #2,790. That is $232.50 per hour from nine last night with the Giant/GreenBay game in overtime through the night until nine this morning. Not bad, but I know there would have been more donated if everyone was SURE Fred was staying the course! Also the link to the truck is not easily found and that may have kept more funds from coming in. Lets put more in the truck! We can make it 1.5 mil by midnight tonight! Go to the link below and help any way you can! GO FRED!
https://www.fred08.com/Contribute.aspx?CampaignID=redpickup
Right, the independents should have their own primary.
I realized this, but haven’t much thought about it. Bringing it to the forefront gives me hope Fred can win this nomination and put these moderate rino’s in the basement!
“The value of the early primaries is diminished enormously by the crossover votes. They preclude the determination of a consensus candidate. But they do enable the media to spin an imaginary consensus around the early winners and around the issues the media – not Republican voters — believe are most important.”
Worth repeating.
Friends of Fred number is up too.
oops,, Thanks!
I didn’t scroll thru all the threads first and I did do a search,, didn’t see it ‘til now way down the page
Thanks!
NOw I see it. ;-)
I don't know if SC prevents people from voting in both primaries--if so, Democrats there who care about their own nomination process would have waited to vote next Saturday.
Even if Thompson hasn't officially quit, I don't think he has a chance after his poor showing in SC (a weak third, almost coming in fourth), but he might be able to blunt Huckabee's appeal in the South if he stays in until after Super-Duper Tuesday.
The basic problem is that the only two true conservatives, Hunter and Thompson, flopped as campaigners, so we are left with candidates who are conservative on some issues and liberal on others. Do we make do with half a loaf or get a dangerous leftist who considers conservative views beyond the pale and conservatives as the enemy? That's what we'll have if Hillary or Obama wins in November.
(I'm giving Romney the benefit of the doubt--he sounds conservative now but I have no idea what he actually believes other than that he should be President.)
Does anyone know if the same people would be allowed to show up and vote in the Democrat primary in South Carolina later this week? What would stop them?
I am sick to my stomach. The MSM is marketing the Republican nominee(s) they believe can be most easily beaten.
...and to watch this country’s republican voters fall in behind RINOs is a sad testimonial.
Certainly, the current situation has nothing to do with Rush Limbaugh. Even if he did have the “sacred honor” to step out from behind his GEIBM, he would have little impact. Mental giant, courage midget that one. oh, but he “has his reasons”. he he he.
I’m a friend of Fred and have donated to his campaign. I pray for his mother. I lost mine to Alzheimers when I was 35. For God’s sake (no cliche here), he MUST be the nominee or I’m going to have to hold my noze in November... probably move the family into a mountain art communal.
viva FREDTHOMPSON!!!
viva FREEREPUBLIC!!!
In reality...
| A vote FOR Thompson |
| is |
| A vote AGAINST McCain |
| A vote AGAINST Huckabee |
| A vote AGAINST Giuliani |
| A vote AGAINST Romney |
| And, in the end, |
| A vote AGAINST Clinton |
| A vote AGAINST Obama |
| ******* |
| See how much good one little vote can do? |
If the party can punish states for moving their primary “too early”, why can’t it punish them for allowing cross-over voting?
Alternatively, why not just declare an end to the Stalinist practice of giving special consideration to Iowa and New Hampshire, and proceed towards and actual democratic primary system?
Conservative? You bet! Check each one of this links and then we will know for sure!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzZC92IXHyw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5Xc-X8LckQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PURfrORhWPc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6QNQSTWfiM&feature=related
Or better yet, let FreeRepublic members pick the Republican nominee. No kidding.
Personally, I don't think the parties should have primaries at all. Or if they do, it's only to decide which cannidate they wish to enter into *the* official primary. Parties are not mentioned anywhere in the Constitution, and neither are primaries.
Primaries, whehter closed or open, are part of the reason we have the Demopublicans and the Republocrats. Along with the rules of Congres which give the parties all sorts of advantages.
President Washington had it right.
All obstructions to the execution of the Laws, all combinations and Associations, under whatever plausible character, with the real design to direct, controul counteract, or awe the regular deliberation and action of the Constituted authorities are distructive of this fundamental principle and of fatal tendency. They serve to Organize faction, to give it an artificial and extraordinary force--to put in the place of the delegated will of the Nation, the will of a party; often a small but artful and enterprizing minority of the Community; and, according to the alternate triumphs of different parties, to make the public Administration the Mirror of the ill concerted and incongruous projects of faction, rather than the Organ of consistent and wholesome plans digested by common councils and modefied by mutual interests. However combinations or Associations of the above description may now & then answer popular ends, they are likely, in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the Power of the People, & to usurp for themselves the reins of Government; destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion.
I have already intimated to you the danger of Parties in the State, with particular reference to the founding of them on Geographical discriminations. Let me now take a more comprehensive view, & warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the Spirit of Party, generally.
This Spirit, unfortunately, is inseperable from our nature, having its root in the strongest passions of the human Mind. It exists under different shapes in all Governments, more or less stifled, controuled, or repressed; but in those of the popular form it is seen in its greatest rankness and is truly their worst enemy.
The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge natural to party dissention, which in different ages & countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders & miseries, which result, gradually incline the minds of men to seek security & repose in the absolute power of an Individual: and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of Public Liberty.
Without looking forward to an extremity of this kind (which nevertheless ought not to be entirely out of sight) the common & continual mischiefs of the spirit of Party are sufficient to make it the interest and the duty of a wise People to discourage and restrain it.
It serves always to distract the Public Councils and enfeeble the Public Administration. It agitates the Community with ill founded Jealousies and false alarms, kindles the animosity of one part against another, foments occasionally riot & insurrection. It opens the door to foreign influence & corruption, which find a facilitated access to the government itself through the channels of party passions. Thus the policy and the will of one country, are subjected to the policy and will of another.
There is an opinion that parties in free countries are useful checks upon the Administration of the Government and serve to keep alive the spirit of Liberty. This within certain limits is probably true--and in Governments of a Monarchical cast patriotism may look with endulgence, if not with favour, upon the spirit of party. But in those of the popular character, in Governments purely elective, it is a spirit not to be encouraged. From their natural tendency, it is certain there will always be enough of that spirit for every salutary purpose. And there being constant danger of excess, the effort ought to be, by force of public opinion, to mitigate & assuage it. A fire not to be quenched; it demands a uniform vigilance to prevent its bursting into a flame, lest instead of warming it should consume."
Washington's Farewell Addres, 19 September 1796 (Starting at page 14 for those in Rio Lindo).
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